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#276 Garyth64

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Posted 17 August 2016 - 04:14 PM

Some of you may have seen the pic of this Manon lens in another thread here on CNs.  I cannot find it.  Anyway, the pic showed that the lens spacers were very large.  So, that was my first priority in my assembly of the scope.   Here's the pic from the ad:

 

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It's a good thing I checked, because the lens was in backward.  I replaced the large spacers with smaller ones that I believe were the original size.

 

Because I cannot do better, this next pic is also from the ad.  (for those who didn't see it.)

 

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Also, somewhere I read that there is  "Vixen" visual back that will screw into this focuser so 1-1/4" eyepieces can be used. 

 

Does anyone recall where I can purchased one from?  thanks


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Posted 17 August 2016 - 04:27 PM

It will accept the Vixen 36.4mm to 1.25" adapter.  I buy mine here --> https://www.optcorp....ce-adapter.html


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Posted 17 August 2016 - 06:02 PM

It will accept the Vixen 36.4mm to 1.25" adapter.  I buy mine here --> https://www.optcorp....ce-adapter.html

 

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Posted 17 August 2016 - 09:50 PM

I'm assuming that I am still the only one then with an APL model 814 with a thread-on focuser? (Mine (1965) is branded Mayflower rather than Manon.)

 

 

Technically yes you are the only one but...

 

I bought a Mayflower 814 APL 5 years ago. It had some deep paint scrapes and I was really just after the glass to transplant into the sweetest Tasco circle T 9te which is a very early, cardboard gift boxed, wood tripod, yoke with no controls, no alt rod, not great optics. The Tasco now APL powered from the Mayflower is a very fine, very simple telescope. Like me... well the simple part anyway.

 

So unless I put the glass back into the Mayflower, You have the only one Terra! 

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 10:08 AM

Amazing work Chuck!


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Posted 08 August 2019 - 06:17 PM

Chuck - to join the chorus thanks so much for this thoughtful masterful restoration!

 

You've presented a master class is do-it-yourself-ing! Great tips and thanks for all the tedious posting work.

 

I never expected to be here but ebay beckoned and I'm now the happy owner of a threaded focuser APL Manon!

 

Sadly, some things tinkering won't fix :-((( But they did get the OTA packing right!

 

Going to have to find a finder, the horizontal worm assbly is completely missing and the vertical suffered a broken end :-(( Happy to purchase if anyone interested.

 

But - the optics/tube assembly is terrific - amazing images! And I agree with Chuck about re: longevity issues - even with broken/missing parts it works/images great - what's not to like?

 

Quick question - on cleaning the green felt departed the insides of the focuser - got some Amazon green 1/16" with adhesive back and it's just too thick. Advice on thinner felt?

 

Pix are as arrived in the case and set up with tube cleaned - next will be tripod/case cleaning,refinishing, etc. etc.

 

Thanks again for showing me the way!

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 06:34 PM

I use the adhesive felt from Michaels craft store, and it fits fairly well, although a bit stiff at first. The felt will eventually compress. You can try thinning it with an electric razor, or very carefully slice it with a single-edge razor blade.

 

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Posted 27 August 2019 - 11:57 PM

Wow, Chuck, those are gorgeous!

 

What oil did you use to loosen up the old grease on the mounts?


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Posted 28 August 2019 - 12:47 PM

Wow is right......Great education

.I read this long older thread last night.  Cool to see sharp minds at work conveying ideas and suggestions and pics.....I did some searches on mayflower 814   etc   and bingo  found some great stuff here

 

also cool to see some of the folks  chiming in 4 years ago   on scopes they may no longer have today.  One or two of the folks here seem to make their first posts

 

 

 

specifically    I found this  thread where  at post 40 Kas joins cloudy nights and talks about his Christmas 814

 

  https://www.cloudyni...ower-814/page-2

 

Scottastronut finds his 814 in Bar Harbor   check it out

 

 

p.s.    re    green felt.  Diane's dad used to build houses years ago. We bought this house he lived in 16 years ago. I am constantly finding useful stuff he left here....to wit... there is this big ole roll of very thin green felt like material      I must have 3 feet by 200 feet of it. It is not really felt as it is too thin but it would be useful as thin as it is.  it has paper material on the back    might be great for several restoration projects you might have. Seems like it would be useful also for replacing strips of green material one might find in old boxes    like many of boxes  classics live in............I think I will go look for this roll    and when I find it ....I'll try to take some pics  but I would offer sheets of this stuff to folks if they might use some of it.....I could always mail a couple of 8.5 x 11 size sheets as a sample and send rolled tube pieces if needed     just a thought

 

Barry


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Posted 28 August 2019 - 03:33 PM

Wow is right......Great education

.I read this long older thread last night.  Cool to see sharp minds at work conveying ideas and suggestions and pics.....I did some searches on mayflower 814   etc   and bingo  found some great stuff here

 

also cool to see some of the folks  chiming in 4 years ago   on scopes they may no longer have today.  One or two of the folks here seem to make their first posts

 

 

 

specifically    I found this  thread where  at post 40 Kas joins cloudy nights and talks about his Christmas 814

 

  https://www.cloudyni...ower-814/page-2

 

Scottastronut finds his 814 in Bar Harbor   check it out

 

 

p.s.    re    green felt.  Diane's dad used to build houses years ago. We bought this house he lived in 16 years ago. I am constantly finding useful stuff he left here....to wit... there is this big ole roll of very thin green felt like material      I must have 3 feet by 200 feet of it. It is not really felt as it is too thin but it would be useful as thin as it is.  it has paper material on the back    might be great for several restoration projects you might have. Seems like it would be useful also for replacing strips of green material one might find in old boxes    like many of boxes  classics live in............I think I will go look for this roll    and when I find it ....I'll try to take some pics  but I would offer sheets of this stuff to folks if they might use some of it.....I could always mail a couple of 8.5 x 11 size sheets as a sample and send rolled tube pieces if needed     just a thought

 

Barry

About green felt. The thin stuff used used in 'some' of the old boxes for eyepieces, Manon and Mayflower tube clamps, and on trays etc. is not felt but is actually flannel. One day I was at the local Joann (fabrics and hobbies) and I noticed they had both felt and flannel in many colors. smile.png  Anyone up for some green pajamas?

 

BTW, when I made that post about my xmas 814 I was mistaken, it was 1976 not '77.


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Posted 28 August 2019 - 09:47 PM

Wow, Chuck, those are gorgeous!

 

What oil did you use to loosen up the old grease on the mounts?

Thanks, they were fun to do.

 

The two in this thread were completely stripped down to clean metal and refinished, so got all new grease.  I removed the old stuff with charcoal lighter fluid (kerosene) followed by acetone.

 

For old scopes not being stripped-down, I have an old bottle of Marvel Lubricating Oil, a very thin oil designed to penetrate tight threads.  It cuts and loosens old grease, is a quick and dirty way to restore smooth motion at times.  Any thin oil works, such as Kroil.  


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 06:23 AM

Thanks, they were fun to do.

 

The two in this thread were completely stripped down to clean metal and refinished, so got all new grease.  I removed the old stuff with charcoal lighter fluid (kerosene) followed by acetone.

 

For old scopes not being stripped-down, I have an old bottle of Marvel Lubricating Oil, a very thin oil designed to penetrate tight threads.  It cuts and loosens old grease, is a quick and dirty way to restore smooth motion at times.  Any thin oil works, such as Kroil.  

Sounds like old-fashioned "sewing machine oil" would be a good bet.



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Posted 29 August 2019 - 06:24 AM

About green felt. The thin stuff used used in 'some' of the old boxes for eyepieces, Manon and Mayflower tube clamps, and on trays etc. is not felt but is actually flannel. One day I was at the local Joann (fabrics and hobbies) and I noticed they had both felt and flannel in many colors. smile.png  Anyone up for some green pajamas?

 

BTW, when I made that post about my xmas 814 I was mistaken, it was 1976 not '77.

I wonder if the green cloth (baize?) used on billiard tables would work?



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Posted 02 September 2019 - 06:43 PM

Never mind.. I was thinking of something else. Of course cloth wouldn't work.

I wonder if the green cloth (baize?) used on billiard tables would work?




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