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#126 highfnum

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 09:49 AM

hey guys did DS-10/16 come with 2 inch  adapter

 

I have DS-10 but only 1.25 inch adapter 

 

does anyone know thread size and pitch?



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Posted 04 November 2018 - 09:52 AM

Back in the 2015 posting there is a guy with a pictured DS-16 that has what he described as a homemade rotating rings with a wooden cradle. That was actually a commercial product. Custom wooden rings and mounting plate and 2 straps that bolt onto the tube with little Teflon wheels on them. Does actually work although I don't know the name of the maker. I have a complete set up of those, painted black by the previous owner, if anyone has an interest in them (see posts #2 and #5). Somebody traded that in to Gary one time and he "stuck" me with it. Since I acquired the DS-16 custom from the late Dr. Greene in about 2012 with its 6" F15 and later a Meade 16" Dob from the widow of a local astronomer I considered putting them together. However the original OTA tube was out of round so I tripped out the optics and sold off the good parts. Later I acquired a never used NightSky 16 kit so the DS-16 mounting was no longer going to get done. Except maybe to mount the Cave 12.5" Cass/Newt after restoring the tube and optics as the Cave mount needs even more work.

Metro Machining made rings out of wood and used rollers so they could rotate.  Look back in Sky& Tele in 1988 and you can see his ads.  John made rings for my Edmund 8" F/8 when i redid it into a Sono tube back in 1988.


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Posted 04 November 2018 - 09:55 AM

hey guys did DS-10/16 come with 2 inch  adapter

 

I have DS-10 but only 1.25 inch adapter 

 

does anyone know thread size and pitch?

The DS16 I had already took 2" eyepieces.  I believe the 2" adapter screwed onto the focuser in place of the 1.25" adapter.  


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Posted 04 November 2018 - 09:56 AM

Here are his rings. This was back when Sono tube was the real deal and came in 12 ft long tubes.

 

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 10:02 AM

Here are his rings. This was back when Sono tube was the real deal and came in 12 ft long tubes.

 

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interesting looking pier.  Looks like a long scope.



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Posted 04 November 2018 - 10:07 AM

I have similar rings on my DS-10.

Notice it was raining when I brought the DS-10 home, yes a very good mirror.

Robert

 

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 10:55 AM

I have similar rings on my DS-10.

Notice it was raining when I brought the DS-10 home, yes a very good mirror.

Robert

 

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About the same deal as on my 8".



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Posted 04 November 2018 - 10:55 AM

I wonder how something like that would handle the weight of the DS-16 OTA...

 

IMO, what these scopes need more than anything is a good cell for the primary.



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Posted 04 November 2018 - 11:13 AM

"I believe the 2" adapter screwed onto the focuser in place of the 1.25" adapter."

 

yes I know that but I need specific numbers for replacement



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Posted 04 November 2018 - 01:04 PM

I have one of those Metro Maching cradles for the DS-16.  If anyone in Arizona needs one, they can have this free as it just takes up space for me.

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 01:13 PM

How about New Mexico? I'd love to try it.

 

I have one of those Metro Maching cradles for the DS-16.  If anyone in Arizona needs one, they can have this free as it just takes up space for me.

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 03:12 PM

hey guys did DS-10/16 come with 2 inch  adapter

 

I have DS-10 but only 1.25 inch adapter 

 

does anyone know thread size and pitch?

Most came with the 2" focuser seen on so many scopes in the later 70's and early 80's.  It had a screw on 1.25" adapter.


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Posted 04 November 2018 - 04:39 PM

How about New Mexico? I'd love to try it.

sounds like a road trip       but I suppose that's easy for a New Englander to suggest since our states are smaller and a border state is an easy ride    you western state folks could be quite a distance away from each other


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Posted 04 November 2018 - 05:25 PM

hey guys did DS-10/16 come with 2 inch  adapter

 

I have DS-10 but only 1.25 inch adapter 

 

does anyone know thread size and pitch?

I might have some of those adapters. I do not think they ever changed the thread pitch.


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Posted 04 November 2018 - 05:29 PM

if you can let one go pm me



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Posted 17 September 2020 - 01:43 AM

With the DS16 can you reach the slow motion controls while looking thru the eyepiece?



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Posted 17 September 2020 - 05:43 AM

With the DS16 can you reach the slow motion controls while looking thru the eyepiece?

Never knew they came with SLO- MO controls.  Maybe if you have ape arms.



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Posted 17 September 2020 - 02:45 PM

Mine didn't have slo motion controls.

The Polar axis had a drive and Dec axis was set up for a drive.

"Had" and "was" is because I no longer own my DS-16.

Do I miss it? yes I do.

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 02:54 PM

Well, I guess that answers my question!



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Posted 17 September 2020 - 02:59 PM

Robert,

 

Your blue tube has the DEC tangent arm assembly. Only one side has the motor wheel, the other side should be a manual knob. It seems to me that the motor wheel could be used as a knob if there is no motor box attached. Your picture shows that the tangent arm gearing could be an easy reach while viewing. I currently have mine off for easy pictures, with both manual and motor wheels. 


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Posted 17 September 2020 - 04:28 PM

Robert,

 

Your blue tube has the DEC tangent arm assembly. Only one side has the motor wheel, the other side should be a manual knob. It seems to me that the motor wheel could be used as a knob if there is no motor box attached. Your picture shows that the tangent arm gearing could be an easy reach while viewing. I currently have mine off for easy pictures, with both manual and motor wheels. 

Yes you could manually adjust Dec from the eyepiece with the arm gear, I forgot

about that.

 

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Posted 08 November 2020 - 11:36 AM

This is to clamchip:

 

Wow, I am way late to this party, but that DS-10 is my first real telescope that you are/were working on (and I do NOT want it back - I am not that nostalgic). I purchased it in late 1982 in El Paso Texas (I was a teenager). It was a great first telescope! I worked painting houses and mowing lawns to be able to purchase it. The 2" focuser ("deluxe focuser"), setting circles, and clock drive were options that I choose when I purchased it. The wooden cradle was a purchase from a small company I found in Astronomy magazine and added sometime in the mid 1980's. I added the platform for a spotting scope (and eventually a camera as you guessed correctly). The cradle was well made but the platform was made by somebody that didn't really know what they were doing (that would be me). I did paint it as you noted with a strong white paint in about 1988. The rotation of the tube in the cradle started to remove some of the baby-blue original paint.

 

I had that telescope for many years in El Paso, then it lived in Pullman Washington when I went to graduate school in the early 1990's, then back to El Paso Texas until the early 2000's. The path to you is a little unknown. I gave it to my sister and her husband when they ran a camp in New Mexico and I had moved on to a Meade 10" fork mount. They then moved to Washington state (Battle Ground) and took it with them. At some point one of their sons gave it to a church. That is where my knowledge ends.

 

There is a very very small chance that I have the original hardware that I took off for the wooden cradle. I will look for it if you are interested still. If I have it, it would be free to you. My wife and I have moved several times and I had held onto it as scrap metal but I'm not sure it made the last move...


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Posted 08 November 2020 - 12:23 PM

Hi msand65,

 

Good to hear from you.

To know a telescope's history is really great, I'll print this and keep it

with the telescope.

If you do happen to find the original mounting hardware please let me

know.

I know you mentioned you do not want it back, it's yours for what I

paid for it, if you change your mind. 

I bought your DS-10 from a craigslist ad in April 2015, Lynnwood WA. $200.

It came with and still has a Criterion 9mm and Celestron 32mm Erfle

eyepieces.

I noted in my file seller's name 'Bobby' and 'from his uncle in Texas' if

this means anything to you.

I serviced the mounting and the drive works fine. I cleaned the

optical tube. The coatings are fine.

 

Robert


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Posted 08 November 2020 - 01:59 PM

Hi Robert,

 

Yes, those names/path do mean something to me. Bobby is my nephew (my sister's son) who donated it to a church and I am the uncle from Texas (Matt). I know that I gave it to my sister in NM with two eyepieces I don't remember exactly what eyepieces and those could be them (obviously not the original). I tried to give one for deep sky observing and one for planetary observing.

 

This last move included downsizing and it is not looking good for the old hardware to be in my direct possession but there is still a small hope though. I gave a ton of my old scrap to a friend and I bet he has it so I will ask but it will be hard to describe, he is an artist and not a technical person (well, he is more than a standard artist - long story there).

I was so happy to see that it is not just sitting in the back of a room never to be used again. I got so much enjoyment out of it! (I still remember the time I showed someone M42 in that DS-10 and they said I was faking it! It was hilarious!! That person from the east coast didn't believe a bumpkin from Texas knew more and could do more than them (that statement is not based only on the "faking it statement" - they were elitist that I enjoyed showing them that we are all equals.))

 

I was a little sad to see the amount of rust on the equatorial mount counter weight shaft since it was fine when I gave it up, but then again, it is quite old and I KNOW that my sister's kids did not take care of it like I did. They had no interest in astronomy. (I also know that is something fixable.) I gave it to her because I wasn't using it and they lived under fantastic skies in New Mexico and the many different people going to the camp they ran could have been sparked into a larger interest in astronomy. I have no idea if it had an impact unfortunately.

 

Matt

 

P.S. I know that most people from the east coast are not elitists. I just had the opportunity to know one. There are plenty of Texans that are elitists and I try to explain to them they are just like everyone else - like it or not...


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Posted 08 November 2020 - 02:21 PM

Hi Robert,

 

I was looking closer at a picture with wooden cradle. I forgot I had to shift the holes on the wooden cradle right after I purchased it! I couldn't get it to balance on the DEC axis so I shifted the center of mass back a little. That did the trick...

 

Matt

 

P.S. I still don't want it back, it is just jogging memories.


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