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#601 PaulEK

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:06 PM

Could the Fourth rule of Craigslist, Ebay and other Vintage Telescope Ads be:

 

Do not mention the Second and Third rules of Craigslist, Ebay and other Vintage Telescope Ads?

 

I guess that means that you shouldn't mention the fourth rule, either. Hmm, now I'm confused....


 

#602 PaulEK

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:08 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I hadn't tried to talk to the seller yet. I didn't want to get in the way of others here who had spoken up before me and start a bidding scene. And didn't want to get involved until I could wrap things up regarding price, payment, and pickup all at once. Just got someone lined up to pick it up this morning, looked, and it was deleted. I still have the picture, though. She sure was pretty <sigh>

What I meant was that the minute something is posted here the vultures set in.  Some respect the fact that someone else might want the item.  However, in most cases it is every man or woman for themselves.  I have been involved with many sales posted here in which the seller is now looking for the highest bid because so many people who saw the item posted here are trying to buy the item.

 

True. Glad i am not into the buying and selling i was doing years back.  

 

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I'm often tempted by the ads linked to here, though I have not yet bid or called on any. I have provided links to a few myself. How do we determine who a 'vulture' is? I'm not trying to be disrespectful; this is an honest question. I thought we were placing the link precisely so folks would be aware of them and be free to make bids or calls.

 

I'm not an expert on classics, and yet I know enough to help every so often with a link. I appreciate the help that the real experts here give to those of us with less knowledge. I imagine there are folks who know even less than me who have never posted here, but who are searching for information and links to get a classic of their own. Are they vultures? The flippers are not very helpful (except to themselves), but even they are only looking at a public forum to gather information; information freely given, or not, by the choice of folks here on CN.

 

Is there a suggested etiquette for who can or cannot respond to the links on this thread?

 

There is no etiquette; only one's own view of reasonableness, and the community court of public opinion. 

 

When Tim posted the link, he revealed an ambivalence. I've known Tim on this board long enough to recognize, I believe, when he is inviting others to pursue something he's posted. He wanted it, yes, but not enough to make the hour's drive. Been there, too. At that point, it's largely open game - because he's invited it.  I indicated my pursuit publicly to let Tim know. If my buddy nearby had picked it up, and Tim subsequently had regrets passing it up, I'd turn around and make it available to him. That's my view of reasonableness. I don't think for a moment that Tim resents my expressed interest..... but I could be mistaken. The ad was deleted before I could coordinate with my local contact, so I had no impact on its eventual disposal.  

 

The "vulture" designation was ill-considered and unnecessarily flippant - it merits neither serious consideration, nor rebuttal. 

 

I used the term vultures in a comical way. 

 

 

I see that now; sorry I did not earlier. But if I didn't, others might not have. But all's well now, I think and hope.


 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:11 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I hadn't tried to talk to the seller yet. I didn't want to get in the way of others here who had spoken up before me and start a bidding scene. And didn't want to get involved until I could wrap things up regarding price, payment, and pickup all at once. Just got someone lined up to pick it up this morning, looked, and it was deleted. I still have the picture, though. She sure was pretty <sigh>

What I meant was that the minute something is posted here the vultures set in.  Some respect the fact that someone else might want the item.  However, in most cases it is every man or woman for themselves.  I have been involved with many sales posted here in which the seller is now looking for the highest bid because so many people who saw the item posted here are trying to buy the item.

 

True. Glad i am not into the buying and selling i was doing years back.  

 

Chas

 

 

I'm often tempted by the ads linked to here, though I have not yet bid or called on any. I have provided links to a few myself. How do we determine who a 'vulture' is? I'm not trying to be disrespectful; this is an honest question. I thought we were placing the link precisely so folks would be aware of them and be free to make bids or calls.

 

I'm not an expert on classics, and yet I know enough to help every so often with a link. I appreciate the help that the real experts here give to those of us with less knowledge. I imagine there are folks who know even less than me who have never posted here, but who are searching for information and links to get a classic of their own. Are they vultures? The flippers are not very helpful (except to themselves), but even they are only looking at a public forum to gather information; information freely given, or not, by the choice of folks here on CN.

 

Is there a suggested etiquette for who can or cannot respond to the links on this thread?

 

There is no etiquette; only one's own view of reasonableness, and the community court of public opinion. 

 

When Tim posted the link, he revealed an ambivalence. I've known Tim on this board long enough to recognize, I believe, when he is inviting others to pursue something he's posted. He wanted it, yes, but not enough to make the hour's drive. Been there, too. At that point, it's largely open game - because he's invited it.  I indicated my pursuit publicly to let Tim know. If my buddy nearby had picked it up, and Tim subsequently had regrets passing it up, I'd turn around and make it available to him. That's my view of reasonableness. I don't think for a moment that Tim resents my expressed interest..... but I could be mistaken. The ad was deleted before I could coordinate with my local contact, so I had no impact on its eventual disposal.  

 

The "vulture" designation was ill-considered and unnecessarily flippant - it merits neither serious consideration, nor rebuttal. 

 

I used the term vultures in a comical way. 

 

 

I think it's kinda pointless to coordinate any kind of strategic purchase of a scope once it's listed here.  There are vultures, like in the Far Side cartoons, and once something is brought up on this thread, it's Open Game.  Rabbit Season.  Craigslist scopes go pretty quick if they're a good deal and they also disappear if the seller discovers they under priced their listing.  In that case, they might be back.


 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:12 PM

Could the Fourth rule of Craigslist, Ebay and other Vintage Telescope Ads be:

 

Do not mention the Second and Third rules of Craigslist, Ebay and other Vintage Telescope Ads?

 

I guess that means that you shouldn't mention the fourth rule, either. Hmm, now I'm confused....

 

NOBODY talks about the Fourth Rule!


 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:18 PM

Well, here's one right near me that I'm not interested in, but someone else may be:

 

http://lacrosse.crai...5121243423.html


Edited by PaulEK, 27 July 2015 - 10:18 PM.

 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:33 PM

FRESH Buzzard / Vulture  bait   http://detroit.craig...5144126585.html       :lol:

 

They're not all in Calli .


 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:38 PM

The corrector plate on that C8 looks like it was cleaned with salad oil and steel wool. Otherwise, it would be a very pretty tri-color sandcast.
 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:42 PM

The corrector plate on that C8 looks like it was cleaned with salad oil and steel wool. Otherwise, it would be a very pretty tri-color sandcast.

Sometimes , things are not always as they appear :shrug:  


 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:48 PM

Another near me, from someone who has a little trouble with our alphabet; a 'Jenson'.

 

http://rmn.craigslis...5126069808.html


 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:58 PM


Well, I hadn't tried to talk to the seller yet. I didn't want to get in the way of others here who had spoken up before me and start a bidding scene. And didn't want to get involved until I could wrap things up regarding price, payment, and pickup all at once. Just got someone lined up to pick it up this morning, looked, and it was deleted. I still have the picture, though. She sure was pretty <sigh>

What I meant was that the minute something is posted here the vultures set in. Some respect the fact that someone else might want the item. However, in most cases it is every man or woman for themselves. I have been involved with many sales posted here in which the seller is now looking for the highest bid because so many people who saw the item posted here are trying to buy the item.
The opposite has happened also. Attention was drawn to a small very beat up scope on the bay, originall bid 99ยข, no resrerve. Because of a posting here, a small bidding frenzy drove up the price, bidder and seller criticized and lambasted soundly. The winning price more than the scope was worth,though it was unique.
Just be aware that sometimes a seller or buyer could be a member here, might be reading our discussions, and is always a felow human being.
We do not always know the reasoning for selling, pricing, or purchasing a scope, nor the needs, desires or even nostalgia weighed in the values.

Edited by Vesper818, 27 July 2015 - 11:00 PM.

 

#611 PaulEK

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 11:01 PM

Here's an older Discovery 10.1-inch Dob. Are these classics yet?

 

http://duluth.craigs...5118698740.html


 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 11:02 PM

I wonder if this seller can be trusted?   :whistle:  ;)

 

http://tucson.craigs...5144265530.html


 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 11:07 PM

I wonder if this seller can be trusted?   :whistle:  ;)

 

http://tucson.craigs...5144265530.html

 Do You Think ?.... :lol:


Edited by TOM KIEHL, 27 July 2015 - 11:07 PM.

 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 11:08 PM

A 'Jason 100' 50mm refractor:

 

http://swmi.craigsli...5123345664.html


 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 11:12 PM

 

I wonder if this seller can be trusted?   :whistle:  ;)

 

http://tucson.craigs...5144265530.html

 Do You Think ?.... :lol:

 

 

Going to bed!

 

/ remember the rules!


 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 11:13 PM

I wonder if this seller can be trusted?   :whistle:  ;)

 

http://tucson.craigs...5144265530.html

 

 

 

I wonder if this seller can be trusted?   :whistle:  ;)

 

http://tucson.craigs...5144265530.html

 Do You Think ?.... :lol:

 

Nah, not a chance...  :bow:


 

#617 PaulEK

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 11:14 PM

RV6, $250 South Bend, Indiana:

 

http://southbend.cra...5120964798.html


 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 11:17 PM

Can someone remind me of just what this is? It's $15 in Springfield, IL:

 

http://springfieldil...5077158531.html


 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 11:21 PM

Can't tell from the photos just what it is, but it comes with Tasco accessories, and it's a long focus refractor on an alt-az mount with wooden tripod. $50 in central Michigan:

 

http://centralmich.c...5114461296.html


 

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 11:31 PM

Can someone remind me of just what this is? It's $15 in Springfield, IL:
 
http://springfieldil...5077158531.html


Looks like a Navy Quartermasters scope grafted to a tripod. The scope can go for more than the ad.
 

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:33 AM

I thought it was military in some way.


 

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 01:02 AM

'Old Sears Telescope' in Pittsburgh. The price is $15, though the ad title says '$1525'. I think they left out a dash.

 

http://pittsburgh.cr...5120103109.html


 

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 01:23 AM

FRESH Buzzard / Vulture  bait   http://detroit.craig...5144126585.html       :lol:

 

They're not all in Calli .

That's in remarkable condition for a tricolor.  Still, if it were mine, I'd restore it.  It looks like a low serial number, as the back plate has the black adapter plate that allowed them to use up the cell castings left over from the helical focusers.  Tinky is like that, Serial number 135.

 

Though $400 isn't a bad price, getting paint to restore it will cost over $300 (my experience)

 

-Tim


 

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 04:55 AM

OK folks, it's time to shut this thread down and start a new one.

 

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