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#1 Bruno Yporti

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Posted 16 July 2015 - 03:58 PM

After read about Vixen, now Baader has some new eyepieces too! Morpheus, 76º AFOV, 4,5 / 6,5 / 9 / 12,5 / 14 and 17,5 mm!
 

"Morpheus is the God of Dreams – and after more than three years of development we present the eyepiece of our dreams: The MORPHEUS® 76° WIDE-FIELD EYEPIECE The big eye relief is perfect even for observing with glasses.

Our Morpheus-eyepieces are available in flgw focal lengths: 4,5-/ 6,5-/ 9-/ 12,5-/ 14- and (soon also) 17,5 mm. We have put as much effort into the workmanship as into the optical design.

Phantom Coating® Group, rare-earth glasses, sealed watertight housings are a given. Practical design is the prime goal: i.e. minimum metal to keep weight at bay, optimized for bino-viewing, M43 photo-video thread – and the all-new 1¼" and 2" “safety-kerfs” to guard against slipping (no undercut). Please find more information in the attached advertisement, as well as in the also attached data-sheet. More to come soon. In the night you will love the quick draw eyepiece holster and the photo-luminescent engraving."

Optical Features

  • Full Field Sharpness: The sharp flat 76° field is unsurpassed by any other modern wide field eyepiece.  On-axis sharpness and contrast rivals our best planetary eyepieces, while delivering nearly equivalent performance over the full field. Stars remain diamond pinpoints as you move away from center, and the field remains flat and in focus, even in short focus telescopes.
  • Long Eye Relief: Morpheus pushes the envelope of comfortable wide field viewing further than ever before, delivering close to 20mm of eye relief along with best-in-class optical performance. Eyeglass wearers can comfortably take in the full field, and users of Binoviewers will find that Morpheus make the ultimate eyepieces for viewing with two eyes.
  • Low Distortion: The Morpheus optical design delivers exceedingly low distortion (angular magnification distortion). Planets and lunar features retain their shapes as they transit the field and the true field sizes are close to theoretical. Many companies exaggerate at this point and deliberately use off axis distortion magnification as a means to advertize blown "apparent" field sizes . You will be able to compare this given field size of 76° and find it to be the true value, calculated from the apparent field size and focal length.
  • Immersive Views: As avid observers ourselves, we have studied the behaviors of most commonly available wide field eyepieces and listened to other observers comments on what eyepieces give the most palpable and engaging wide field viewing experience. What we found is that the subjective ‘spacewalk’ feeling is not just a function of field of view. Interestingly, some wide-field eyepieces with fields of 82 degrees failed to deliver the same viewing experience as others with similar fields, or even some with smaller fields. We found two additional primary factors played into the equation – Eye Relief (and the related large eye lens size) and Ease of Viewing (a combination of long eye relief and control of pupil aberrations). We also found that fields much below 74 degrees tended to have a reduced effect. So, with this information in hand, we set out to design a new eyepiece with a field of view greater than 74° that met all of the other optical parameters necessary to deliver a truly "immersive" viewing experience where the eyepiece essentially disappears. The result is Morpheus®.
  • Phantom Coating® Group:  Pioneered in the Hyperion lineup, the Phantom Group Multi-coatings have been further optimized for use in the Morpheus and index-matched to each of the different glasses.
  • Optimized Internal Baffling: As with all Baader Planetarium eyepieces, the internal mechanicals have been fully ray-traced and baffled to eliminate the effects of stray-light.
Mechanical Features
  • Optimized for Binoviewing: Every last bit of space has been squeezed out of the main body to minimize its size, giving maximum nose clearance for binoviewing.
  • Weight reduction: Every effort has been made to eliminate unnecessary weight - especially in view of effective binoviewing. The weight of all Morpheus-eyepieces essentially are the lenses inside plus the best protection and water resistance we can supply.
  • Foldable Eyecups: The Morpheus include two soft rubber dual-position foldable eyeguards (see images below). These innovative new eyeguards have been developed to provide the optimal comfort and eye spacing for most users and eye glass wearers. The included special winged version provides the ultimate comfort and exclusion of stray light necessary for binoviewing with eyeglasses.
  • Safety Features: The 1¼" and 2" Barrels of each Morpheus incorporate our new Slip-Protect Safety Kerfs. The ideal safety compromise between smooth barrels and wide undercuts. The numerous shallow kerfs give additional grip and security from inadvertent drops from smooth sided barrels, without the annoying problems sometimes caused by traditional wide undercuts. Wide waffle-patterned rubber grip ring gives an extra measure of handling security.
  • Photo-Video Adaptation: Like their Hyperion siblings, all Morpheus eyepieces make superb imaging projection optics. Each Morpheus includes a hidden M43 photo-video eye lens thread that permits use of our extensive range of Hyperion Digital T-Rings. These rings permit direct-thread attachment of practically any imaging device for the ultimate in rigidity and close-coupling for minimal vignetting.

 

http://www.baader-pl...ion/s27/s27.htm

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Edited by Bruno Yporti, 16 July 2015 - 04:01 PM.


#2 Astrojensen

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Posted 16 July 2015 - 04:00 PM

Delos clone! 

 

Come on, someone had to say it. Better now than later.

 

 

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Posted 16 July 2015 - 04:02 PM

Delos clone! 

 

Come on, someone had to say it. Better now than later.

 

 

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But they don't look like a turkey leg! 

 

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Posted 16 July 2015 - 04:29 PM

After read about Vixen, now Baader has some new eyepieces too! Morpheus, 76º AFOV, 4,5 / 6,5 / 9 / 12,5 / 14 and 17,5 mm!
 

"Morpheus is the God of Dreams – and after more than three years of development we present the eyepiece of our dreams: The MORPHEUS® 76° WIDE-FIELD EYEPIECE The big eye relief is perfect even for observing with glasses.

Our Morpheus-eyepieces are available in flgw focal lengths: 4,5-/ 6,5-/ 9-/ 12,5-/ 14- and (soon also) 17,5 mm. We have put as much effort into the workmanship as into the optical design.

Phantom Coating® Group, rare-earth glasses, sealed watertight housings are a given. Practical design is the prime goal: i.e. minimum metal to keep weight at bay, optimized for bino-viewing, M43 photo-video thread – and the all-new 1¼" and 2" “safety-kerfs” to guard against slipping (no undercut). Please find more information in the attached advertisement, as well as in the also attached data-sheet. More to come soon. In the night you will love the quick draw eyepiece holster and the photo-luminescent engraving."

Optical Features

  • Full Field Sharpness: The sharp flat 76° field is unsurpassed by any other modern wide field eyepiece.  On-axis sharpness and contrast rivals our best planetary eyepieces, while delivering nearly equivalent performance over the full field. Stars remain diamond pinpoints as you move away from center, and the field remains flat and in focus, even in short focus telescopes.
  • Long Eye Relief: Morpheus pushes the envelope of comfortable wide field viewing further than ever before, delivering close to 20mm of eye relief along with best-in-class optical performance. Eyeglass wearers can comfortably take in the full field, and users of Binoviewers will find that Morpheus make the ultimate eyepieces for viewing with two eyes.
  • Low Distortion: The Morpheus optical design delivers exceedingly low distortion (angular magnification distortion). Planets and lunar features retain their shapes as they transit the field and the true field sizes are close to theoretical. Many companies exaggerate at this point and deliberately use off axis distortion magnification as a means to advertize blown "apparent" field sizes . You will be able to compare this given field size of 76° and find it to be the true value, calculated from the apparent field size and focal length.
  • Immersive Views: As avid observers ourselves, we have studied the behaviors of most commonly available wide field eyepieces and listened to other observers comments on what eyepieces give the most palpable and engaging wide field viewing experience. What we found is that the subjective ‘spacewalk’ feeling is not just a function of field of view. Interestingly, some wide-field eyepieces with fields of 82 degrees failed to deliver the same viewing experience as others with similar fields, or even some with smaller fields. We found two additional primary factors played into the equation – Eye Relief (and the related large eye lens size) and Ease of Viewing (a combination of long eye relief and control of pupil aberrations). We also found that fields much below 74 degrees tended to have a reduced effect. So, with this information in hand, we set out to design a new eyepiece with a field of view greater than 74° that met all of the other optical parameters necessary to deliver a truly "immersive" viewing experience where the eyepiece essentially disappears. The result is Morpheus®.
  • Phantom Coating® Group:  Pioneered in the Hyperion lineup, the Phantom Group Multi-coatings have been further optimized for use in the Morpheus and index-matched to each of the different glasses.
  • Optimized Internal Baffling: As with all Baader Planetarium eyepieces, the internal mechanicals have been fully ray-traced and baffled to eliminate the effects of stray-light.
Mechanical Features
  • Optimized for Binoviewing: Every last bit of space has been squeezed out of the main body to minimize its size, giving maximum nose clearance for binoviewing.
  • Weight reduction: Every effort has been made to eliminate unnecessary weight - especially in view of effective binoviewing. The weight of all Morpheus-eyepieces essentially are the lenses inside plus the best protection and water resistance we can supply.
  • Foldable Eyecups: The Morpheus include two soft rubber dual-position foldable eyeguards (see images below). These innovative new eyeguards have been developed to provide the optimal comfort and eye spacing for most users and eye glass wearers. The included special winged version provides the ultimate comfort and exclusion of stray light necessary for binoviewing with eyeglasses.
  • Safety Features: The 1¼" and 2" Barrels of each Morpheus incorporate our new Slip-Protect Safety Kerfs. The ideal safety compromise between smooth barrels and wide undercuts. The numerous shallow kerfs give additional grip and security from inadvertent drops from smooth sided barrels, without the annoying problems sometimes caused by traditional wide undercuts. Wide waffle-patterned rubber grip ring gives an extra measure of handling security.
  • Photo-Video Adaptation: Like their Hyperion siblings, all Morpheus eyepieces make superb imaging projection optics. Each Morpheus includes a hidden M43 photo-video eye lens thread that permits use of our extensive range of Hyperion Digital T-Rings. These rings permit direct-thread attachment of practically any imaging device for the ultimate in rigidity and close-coupling for minimal vignetting.

 

http://www.baader-pl...ion/s27/s27.htm

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 245 Euros.  Question.  That's as much as a Delos.  So unless these are better, or the Euro price will match the American price, ($245) then not much point in buying them over the Delos. 


Edited by RichA, 16 July 2015 - 04:37 PM.


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Posted 16 July 2015 - 04:49 PM

Is 245 euros less than $340?  Getting kind of interesting that people are coming out with new ones. TeleVue, Baader, Vixen....



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Posted 16 July 2015 - 06:11 PM

Will the outer 1/3 of field be out of focus in f/5 scopes like the Hyperions?



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Posted 16 July 2015 - 07:10 PM

Will the outer 1/3 of field be out of focus in f/5 scopes like the Hyperions?

 

Not only that, they also have really fuzzy-looking field stops. (Same with those Ultima Duos, lol)



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Posted 16 July 2015 - 07:27 PM

So....who's gonna take the plunge first ?????? 

 

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Posted 16 July 2015 - 11:32 PM

"close to 20mm of eye relief"

 

How close to 20mm will determine whether I'm interested.  Um, yeah, optical blahbahblah but 20mm ER comes first.



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Posted 17 July 2015 - 12:23 AM

Lord Google says 245 euro = $267.  About the same cost as DeLite, but with an extra 13°. 

 

...maybe as an added bonus those extra 13 degrees will be significantly brighter than the center of the field. :twitch:



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Posted 17 July 2015 - 12:50 AM

It would have to be as good, or nearly as good, to succeed at that price point. People won't accept much of a sacrifice in quality for 2/3 the price of the Delos. .



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Posted 17 July 2015 - 03:22 AM

It would have to be as good, or nearly as good, to succeed at that price point. People won't accept much of a sacrifice in quality for 2/3 the price of the Delos. .

True. Not much of a point at such a small price difference. 

 

 

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Posted 17 July 2015 - 06:40 AM

I guess here are some questions -

Who likes the specifications enough to be interested in trying one?

Who has been impressed enough with Baader's other eyepiece offerings enough to give these a try?

Dave

Edited by russell23, 17 July 2015 - 06:41 AM.


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Posted 17 July 2015 - 06:56 AM

There seems to be a clear trend here. WO claims their XWA have a 101 deg TFOV. Vixen claims their new line has an 83 deg TFOV. Now Baader is claiming a 76 Deg TFOV. I predict the Delite-like line will have a 64 deg TFOV.

I also cannot wait for the 2" Telecentric barlows with 2.1x and 4.1x magnification factors.

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Posted 17 July 2015 - 10:53 AM

I guess here are some questions -

Who likes the specifications enough to be interested in trying one?

Who has been impressed enough with Baader's other eyepiece offerings enough to give these a try?

Dave

 

Last Baader EP I tried was a huge disappointment, (31mm Baader ASPH). It was so bad, I wanted to throw it in the trees near us, but I opted out for a trip in a package back to where it came from.

 

:roflmao:

 

All kidding aside.....you never really know until you try as they say!


Edited by Scanning4Comets, 17 July 2015 - 10:54 AM.


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Posted 17 July 2015 - 11:09 AM

Who has been impressed enough with Baader's other eyepiece offerings enough to give these a try?

Dave

 

TRUE 



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Posted 17 July 2015 - 12:11 PM

WOW trying to get in on the 70 degree 20mm ER market again

HYPERIONS some were reported wider than 68degree spec'd

These maybe very similar just different housing

I think the XW / Delos is the pinnacle Kings 



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Posted 17 July 2015 - 01:25 PM

Morpheus details:

http://www.baader-pl...iece-series.pdf



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Posted 17 July 2015 - 02:05 PM

 

Delos clone! 

 

Come on, someone had to say it. Better now than later.

 

 

Clear skies!
Thomas, Denmark

 

But they don't look like a turkey leg! 

 

Dave

 

True that.  Though they are hideously deformed in that "rolled of a Shenzen assembly line aesthetic" kind of way.

 

They remind me a lot of these Long Perng and Celestron eyepieces.  Hideous.

 

http://www.longperng...43958zddoz1.jpg

 

http://www.celestron...&compression=98

 

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Posted 17 July 2015 - 02:39 PM

 

Finally...they are out!  I had heard they were developing new EPs a long time ago...and know that the Baader folks have been testing and refining these for quite some time...but could not get any details out of them.  Anyway...looks very cool.   Thanks for the PDF link!



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Posted 17 July 2015 - 03:31 PM

And what if they are really better? 

Baader is a German firm. I believe they really can make premium optics if they want to. All they have to do is work with Zeiss or Leica (or Docter) and produce them locally. They would cost more than 250€ though. Much, much more. 



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Posted 17 July 2015 - 03:32 PM

 

 

Finally...they are out!  I had heard they were developing new EPs a long time ago...and know that the Baader folks have been testing and refining these for quite some time...but could not get any details out of them.  Anyway...looks very cool.   Thanks for the PDF link!

 

 

Despite my joking earlier I do think these could turn out to be very good if Baader has spent years having them developed AND made attention to details with light control.   Hopefully they have excellent control of scattered light and no EOFB! 

 

Dave


Edited by russell23, 17 July 2015 - 03:32 PM.


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Posted 17 July 2015 - 03:43 PM

LOL at the ad with a Lawrence Fishburn look-alike in black leather coat with a handy eyepiece holster at his side.

Borderline copyright infringement there.  



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Posted 17 July 2015 - 03:48 PM

LOL at the ad with a Lawrence Fishburn look-alike in black leather coat with a handy eyepiece holster at his side.

Borderline copyright infringement there.  

 

Every time I see your Avatar, it reminds me of someone cracking a whip.

 

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Posted 17 July 2015 - 04:29 PM

And what if they are really better? 

Baader is a German firm. I believe they really can make premium optics if they want to. All they have to do is work with Zeiss or Leica (or Docter) and produce them locally. They would cost more than 250€ though. Much, much more. 

Like the Hyperions, I am certain these are made in China.

German?  Not very likely unless they're selling at $900-$1000 each.




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