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#1 Astrojensen

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 03:59 PM

Check out these uber cute little mini-maks I found while perusing the Kasai Trading homepage:

 

http://www.kasai-trading.jp/pico8.html

 

A 80mm and a 60mm, both f/11.2 (scroll down on the page to the 60mm). The 60mm is the smallest mak I've ever seen that can take 1.25" eyepieces. Both are designed for astronomy and have moving mirror focusing with a real focus knob, just like on the bigger maks. 

 

The 60mm in particular is more of a novelty than a really useful telescope, of course, but it could be a good travel companion, being only the size of a beer can. Both have collimation screws for the primary. Both have a standard Vixen/Synta dovetail with 1/4"x20 threaded holes, so they fit both standard dovetails and photo tripods. Both can be equipped with a dovetail for a red dot finder or a 6x30 finderscope. 

 

I just can't get over how tiny and cute the 60mm is. 

 

 

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 04:17 PM

Sweet! I would love to add one of these and begin a collection. The Celesteon Mini Maks have mixed reviews. How so these compare?


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Posted 18 November 2015 - 04:40 PM

I think these might have much, much better optics than the Celestron mini maks, as the Picos have been designed for astronomy. 

 

 

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 06:15 PM

You had to show us that, Thomas.   :fingertap:

 

 

 

That 60mm is only 12,000 yen! Even the 80mm isn't bad at 17,800 yen. Wonder what shipping would be?

 

(Chinese is hard to understand even after it's translated to English)

 

 

Current xchange rate is 1 Yen = 0.008 USD

PICO 6  $96

PICO 8  $142

 

Could that be?

 

They have a nice 127mm scope. It's a Rumakku type Maksutov Cassegrain - not a secondary aluminized spot but a separate secondary mounted mirror, similar to an SCT. Plus, It has a small cooling fan built into the rear housing!

 

A little pricey for me at almost 200,000 yen ($1600 USD - ouch!)  They have larger scopes that go up in size and price.

 

 

 

Seriously Thomas, very interesting! :waytogo:   I bookmarked the site.

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 07:01 PM

Holy cow!

 

These look awesome! If they are at that price - I want one. :waytogo:


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Posted 18 November 2015 - 08:09 PM

Holy cow!

 

These look awesome! If they are at that price - I want one. :waytogo:

 

 

Don't order it yet duck! If the math is off one decimal place, I'm headin' for the hills...    :getem:

 

The exchange rate says 1 yen = 0.008 USD. But there is a tax that may bring the 60 mm up to $103 and change. Plus shipping I guess.

 

I was looking on the site more. They have triplet APOs, big DOBs, RCs, and they have Shiefspiglers (sp?) in three sizes!!! They are amazing. You have to check it out.


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Posted 18 November 2015 - 08:36 PM

Do my eyes deceive me, or do they sell a 150x3000 Scheispiegler?  Wow!


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Posted 18 November 2015 - 09:18 PM

Looks like they sell Intes scopes too. Very interesting Co.   It would be interesting to see how the 60mm and 80mm Maks perform.  I have never heard any good reports about sharpness in Maks 70mm and under.  Including my 70mm Lomo.  A good 60mm refractor will out perform them, but you can't beat their small size.


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Posted 18 November 2015 - 09:50 PM

They're actually in Japan.

 

The money is the same but the rate is very slightly different.

 

1 Japanese Yen = 0.0081 USD. Appears most things are free shipping but there is a 'consumption tax' of 8% - like our sales tax. They take PayPal and CCs.

 

Keep hitting the BACK button and you'll get to a page where it says 'Jump to English Edition.' Easier to read.


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Posted 18 November 2015 - 11:14 PM

I googled them and it showed itheir site in english.

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 11:15 PM

Holy cow!
 
These look awesome! If they are at that price - I want one. :waytogo:

 
 
Don't order it yet duck! If the math is off one decimal place, I'm headin' for the hills...    :getem:
 
The exchange rate says 1 yen = 0.008 USD. But there is a tax that may bring the 60 mm up to $103 and change. Plus shipping I guess.
 
I was looking on the site more. They have triplet APOs, big DOBs, RCs, and they have Shiefspiglers (sp?) in three sizes!!! They are amazing. You have to check it out.


I went back to check out the rest of the site. I love the different products they have. I really loved the portable dob that you can hand hold (with shoulder strap). They have some killer scopes and accessories too.

No, do not worry - I ain't getting one until someone (from this forum) has taken the plunge first and writes a review. :sct2:
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Posted 19 November 2015 - 04:18 AM

 

No, do not worry - I ain't getting one until someone (from this forum) has taken the plunge first and writes a review.

What? Are you looking at me? Sorry, but I'm fresh out of cash. Can we get a volunteer, please?

 

 

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 04:21 AM

 

You had to show us that, Thomas.   :fingertap:

Ummm - yes, I did!  :grin: Sorry about that, but it had to be done and someone had to do it. It's a tough job, I know.  ;)

 

 

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 04:59 AM

I got cash but I'm worse than a newbie. Not qualified to do a review. So, who's up?

Holy cow!

These look awesome! If they are at that price - I want one. :waytogo:



Don't order it yet duck! If the math is off one decimal place, I'm headin' for the hills... :getem:

The exchange rate says 1 yen = 0.008 USD. But there is a tax that may bring the 60 mm up to $103 and change. Plus shipping I guess.

I was looking on the site more. They have triplet APOs, big DOBs, RCs, and they have Shiefspiglers (sp?) in three sizes!!! They are amazing. You have to check it out.
I went back to check out the rest of the site. I love the different products they have. I really loved the portable dob that you can hand hold (with shoulder strap). They have some killer scopes and accessories too.

No, do not worry - I ain't getting one until someone (from this forum) has taken the plunge first and writes a review. :sct2:


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Posted 19 November 2015 - 08:39 AM

I guess we can all pitch in $20 and take turns with it.


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Posted 19 November 2015 - 11:58 AM

Aokswiss schiefspiegler it is. Astrooptik kohler



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Posted 19 November 2015 - 12:01 PM

The schiefpiegler aka AOK Kutter 



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Posted 19 November 2015 - 03:51 PM

Hmmm, excuse my cynicism ..............but if it looks to good to be true..........it usually is. :shrug:      


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Posted 19 November 2015 - 09:47 PM

Hmmm, excuse my cynicism ..............but if it looks to good to be true..........it usually is. :shrug:


No! You're going to ruin it for me. I love that cute 60 Mak. Its so cute. (Did I just say cute? I mean lets have a beer and arm wrestle)
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Posted 20 November 2015 - 04:59 AM

Hmmm, excuse my cynicism ..............but if it looks to good to be true..........it usually is. :shrug:      

Not sure what you mean?  :question:  

 

Exactly what is it here, about the small maks, that is too good to be true?

 

 

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 08:39 AM

But there's no AstroPlan eyepieces?!?!  Sure like my 5mm.


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Posted 20 November 2015 - 10:32 AM

Nice find Thomas, thanks! I want the 60...



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Posted 20 November 2015 - 01:05 PM

But there's no AstroPlan eyepieces?!?!  Sure like my 5mm.

Of course there is! Their days might be numbered, though.

 

http://www.kasai-tra...aiastroplan.htm

 

 

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 01:13 PM

But there's no AstroPlan eyepieces?!?!  Sure like my 5mm.

Yeah.. and no coffee mug with print either..!! :confused:



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Posted 20 November 2015 - 02:18 PM



 



Hmmm, excuse my cynicism ..............but if it looks to good to be true..........it usually is. :shrug:      

Not sure what you mean?  :question:  

 

Exactly what is it here, about the small maks, that is too good to be true?

 

 

Clear skies!

Thomas, Denmark

 

 

Hi Thomas, I think you misinterpreted the direction of my cynicism.   I love Maks and, in fact, I have one in my collection and it probably get's more use than my other scopes when the conditions are right.   What I was observing was that [a] if you look through the Thread, no one has one.  [b] because of that we have no real idea of the build quality or optical quality of the Pic 6 or 8], [c] the only attraction of them seems to be that they're tiny, "cute", and apparently cheap.    I wouldn't get a dog on that, never mind a scope!!    

    Also for anyone suffering the blight of light pollution, in any degree, the smallest aperture Mak you should/could consider is a 90mm, and even then you'd be struggling especially if you add the limited FOV.    There are nights when even with my Mak 180, I struggle to find my target because of the FOV........Thank the Lord for the RACI and Telrad.!!   So the thought of adding even a known quality Mak of 60 or 80mm to my collection is not something I would consider even if they were tiny, cute and cheap.   So I kind of got the impression, considering no one has a Pico 6 or 8, or has any experience of one. that I was standing with one of my old girl friends standing in front of a Jewelers window and she was getting excited over a diamond ring, or the like, not knowing if it was paste or real and that we were jumping the gun a bit due to the scopes tiny size and cheapness.  In all honesty, how many times would a Pico 6 or 8 get used before it headed for a dusty shelf. :grin:

      Having said that I've just seen an Ad for a tiny, cute,  GOTO  made in darkest Tierra del Fuego and it's going cheap...........Hmmm, could it be too good to be true???


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