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#1 Astro Canuck

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 12:51 PM

Hi:

 

 I note last few days that I cannot access this site  and was wondering if it is gone?  Was really useful and took me back to the time I had my old scopes.

 

Classic Telescopes & Catalogs and Manuals   at       http://geogdata.csun...taire/classics/

 

Thanks in advanvce

 

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#2 Chuck Hards

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 01:04 PM

I'm sure it's just a glitch, it's maintained by a CN member, not CN management or ownership.  Nothing CN can do about it.  Give it some time.



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Posted 21 March 2016 - 01:32 PM

Could be that is is being moved? It was on a non-astronomy related academic server. Tho it had been there for years, questions may have been asked. Having spent a big part of my adult life in academia I understand the dynamic- which is one of an ever shifting landscape (even outside of geology :lol: ), if you get my drift (again, no geology pun intended ;) ).
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Posted 21 March 2016 - 01:49 PM

just give it time and see what happens.   Could be they updated to windows 10  :lol:


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Posted 21 March 2016 - 01:50 PM

Terra, are you saying we need to uplift the data before it get subducted?


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#6 Chuck Hards

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 01:53 PM

You know, someone could send a PM to Robert Provin, and find out for sure.  Just sayin'...     :whistle:


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Posted 21 March 2016 - 02:00 PM

This reminds me that I tried the site only last Wednesday and I was not able to get in..

 

I also thought it was a glitch.



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Posted 21 March 2016 - 03:14 PM

It's been offline for at least a couple of weeks.  Hope it comes back in some form.  Lot's of good information.

 

I sent Robert a few catalogs for the site some months back, but they were never posted nor did I get a response. 



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Posted 21 March 2016 - 03:18 PM

I just checked the Cal State Northridge, Geography Dept. web-site list of current faculty. Robert Provin is no longer listed. I also checked the lists of emeritus faculty, he is not listed there either. I also checked for William Bowen, a close associate of Provin, and Bowen has retired. The two of them ran the 'California Geographical Survey', a web-based data library. Provin assisted Bowen and utilized a directory on the server to house the classic astronomy catalogs etc. Apparently the entire CGS site is is defunct. It looks like much of what had been in the CGS (old geog-data directory) has been reorganized into the dept.s 'California Map Library' now under new direction at that institution. There is nothing astronomical left there. I don't know if all this is permanent at CSN Geography but it may be as no one else in the dept. is listed as having taken it on. Once you retire, if you aren't diligent in maintaining your department presence (I certainly wasn't), you loose territory almost immediately. I am an emerita (other institution) and have been retired now for 12 years. I barely still have an e-mail account there.


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Posted 21 March 2016 - 03:27 PM

The site is still available via the Internet Archive Wayback Machine.


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Posted 21 March 2016 - 03:28 PM

I just sent Bob an email respectfully requesting current status.  Will let you know what I find out.

 

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 03:30 PM

This site is available trough Web Archive Wayback machine:
https://web.archive....taire/classics/

It's last snapshot from Feb 1. 


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Posted 21 March 2016 - 03:40 PM

This site is available trough Web Archive Wayback machine:
https://web.archive....taire/classics/

It's last snapshot from Feb 1. 

Does anyone know how long one will be able to access the site thru the Wayback machine link?

 

I guess what I'm asking is that if worst case scenario all is gone for good......can all of the manuals and links be archived here on CN?



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Posted 21 March 2016 - 03:44 PM

That's a great idea!!

 

It would be a shame to lose all that information.



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Posted 21 March 2016 - 03:54 PM

Maybe nothing will ever be lost anymore, least of all this very site (CN). Here is an interesting read.

http://www.newyorker...15/01/26/cobweb
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Posted 21 March 2016 - 03:58 PM

 

This site is available trough Web Archive Wayback machine:
https://web.archive....taire/classics/

It's last snapshot from Feb 1. 

Does anyone know how long one will be able to access the site thru the Wayback machine link?

 

I guess what I'm asking is that if worst case scenario all is gone for good......can all of the manuals and links be archived here on CN?

 

Should be for quite a few years, but  I do have all of the catalogs downloaded - just in case.


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Posted 21 March 2016 - 04:12 PM

 

 

This site is available trough Web Archive Wayback machine:
https://web.archive....taire/classics/

It's last snapshot from Feb 1. 

Does anyone know how long one will be able to access the site thru the Wayback machine link?

 

I guess what I'm asking is that if worst case scenario all is gone for good......can all of the manuals and links be archived here on CN?

 

Should be for quite a few years, but  I do have all of the catalogs downloaded - just in case.

 

Holy cow Charlie! How long did that take?



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Posted 21 March 2016 - 04:20 PM

 

 

 

This site is available trough Web Archive Wayback machine:
https://web.archive....taire/classics/

It's last snapshot from Feb 1. 

Does anyone know how long one will be able to access the site thru the Wayback machine link?

 

I guess what I'm asking is that if worst case scenario all is gone for good......can all of the manuals and links be archived here on CN?

 

Should be for quite a few years, but  I do have all of the catalogs downloaded - just in case.

 

Holy cow Charlie! How long did that take?

 

If Robert has retired, that would explain why there had not been any updates in quite some time. Believe others had sent Robert a bunch of literature to be added as well. Look forward to see what Dave can find out.

 

Charlle, so are you going to become the new master catalog keeper....just kidding  :grin: ...I've downloaded a bunch of catalogs that I'm interested in.....but not all of them. :bow:



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Posted 21 March 2016 - 04:25 PM

 

 

 

This site is available trough Web Archive Wayback machine:
https://web.archive....taire/classics/

It's last snapshot from Feb 1. 

Does anyone know how long one will be able to access the site thru the Wayback machine link?

 

I guess what I'm asking is that if worst case scenario all is gone for good......can all of the manuals and links be archived here on CN?

 

Should be for quite a few years, but  I do have all of the catalogs downloaded - just in case.

 

Holy cow Charlie! How long did that take?

 

About 40 minutes.  Just right-click on the link and select "Save link as...".  It will save the pdf file to wherever you send it.


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Posted 21 March 2016 - 04:27 PM

All of the catalogs take up about 1GB.  I have high-speed Internet where I work.



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Posted 21 March 2016 - 04:33 PM

Hi All,

Yes, the Classic Telescope Site is gone. The server on which it resided has died and there are no plans to replace it. I am retired now, so I no longer have any say in these matters. However, I do have all the back-ups to the site and if any one out there has any suggestions, I'm all ears.

 

Thanks,

Robert Provin


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Posted 21 March 2016 - 04:43 PM

Thank you, Robert, for starting the site, and maintaining it for so many years. I found the library entertaining and educational. Your work is much appreciated, by more people than you will ever know.
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Posted 21 March 2016 - 05:44 PM

Surely somebody has a server available? 


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Posted 21 March 2016 - 06:06 PM

Surely somebody has a server available? 

I have a few, but never checked into what it would take to actually put them to use.  What is involved?  I take it that it needs its own IP address?



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Posted 22 March 2016 - 02:49 AM

Maybe nothing will ever be lost anymore, least of all this very site (CN). Here is an interesting read.

http://www.newyorker...15/01/26/cobweb

Mesmerizing! 

So every word that was ever mumbled or written on the web fits into a 20 foot container. The real "Universe In A Nutshell". 

Terra, before I read the article, I had followed the link and was happy as a child to see Robert Provins site reappear. The New Yorker puts this in a broader perspective, though. Thank you so much for sharing!


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