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Doubt about Antique Goerz Bratislava 6x30

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#1 ggranha

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 05:13 PM

Hi gentlemen! I have this binoculars.

I did not find much information about it.
Does anyone know what was the date of manufacture (approximate)? It was used in World War II? By Czechs?

Sorry about my bad english and best regards;

Gustavo



#2 ggranha

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 05:17 PM

I read about... used by finnish army.

 

Can be?

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 07:23 PM

You're correct that K.P. Goerz Bratislava binoculars were used by Finland during WW II, but usually WW II Finnish binoculars were marked SA = Suomen Armeija (Finnish Army) and/or PVT = Puolustusvoimien Teollisuus (Ministry of Defence). Since there are no Finnish or other military markings on your binocular I doubt it was a military issue. I think your binocular could have been made during the 1930's, WW II or the immediate post-war years. K.P. Goerz Bratislava is sort of a mysterious company and I don't know what, if any, connection it had to the famous C.P.Goerz Berlin which was taken over by Zeiss in 1926 but continued to manufacture some binoculars in Wien (Vienna) under Zeiss auspices through WW II. I believe there may be some association because both companies used identically stylized prisms as trademarks.


Edited by FrankL, 11 June 2016 - 08:47 AM.


#4 ggranha

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 01:21 PM

Thanks a lot, sir! The other mark is:

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 02:23 PM

7390 is the manufacturer's serial number and the marking is a stylized CG. This marking and placement of serial number is present on many of the binoculars made by C.P.Goerz Berlin which as noted before was taken over by Zeiss in 1926. These markings strongly suggest a relationship between the K. P. Goerz Bratislava company and the defunct C.P. one of Berlin. A previous photograph of the right plate showed the number 13223 which I doubt is the manufacturer's serial number and could be a secondary military serial/inventory number. In the photograph there is a marking before 13223 which is not entirely visible but which if not a number may indicate type of military issue. What is the marking?



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Posted 12 June 2016 - 03:26 PM

Not to be confused with 'Lieberman & Gortz' ! :)



#7 ggranha

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 03:37 PM

Č

 

Thanks again!



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Posted 12 June 2016 - 04:55 PM

 Č which is the letter C in Czech/Slovak may represent  the Czech/Slovak word for number, "číslo". So if the binocular is military, this suggests it may have been made for either the WW II Slovak Republican, a German puppet state, or pre- or post-war Czechoslovakian armed forces.


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Posted 13 June 2016 - 07:50 AM

I'm from Bratislava so this is interesting. But I have no clue about these binoculars or that company. As FrankL writes the letter "Č" definitely stands for "číslo" which means number. In fact, "Č" is not the same letter as "C", we have letter "C" too.




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