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#26 olebole

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 03:21 AM

Dear Ole,
 
yes, of course.
I agree :)
 
So, I am waiting for you help...

Dear Oleg,
 
this is great to hear!
 
In principle, you could start with any OpenSource program; however there are some already in preparation -- for example, C-Munipack is already going to be packaged. In principle, you may check yourself (f.e. on our web page) what is already there and what is in preparation. You could also just select one and I can tell you about its status. I would recommend a smaller package for the start.
 
We do the packaging in a team, so it would be useful for you to join the team. For this, you need to create an account on our developer machine (alioth), and then request membership in the debian-astro project. You should also subscribe to our mailing list. The mailing list is to discuss all issues related to debian-astro packaging (but also for all other discussions or help using or developing astronomy software for Debian/Ubuntu/Mint etc).
 
To give you some start pointers:

You may contact me directly; my e-mail address is olebole@debian.org.

BTW, the invitation applies also to all others who want to contribute; we are happy about any new program that enters the Debian/Ubuntu/Mint world :)

 

Best regards

 

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 05:11 PM


 

One more suggestion would be the ORB_DET (orbital determination by Gauss' method) near the bottom of

the HNSky homepage:

 

   http://www.hnsky.org/software.htm

 

Although it's a small PC program that does run in WINE, maybe the author could be asked to write a version

usable in Linux directly.

 

                                                                                                                                    -- catalogman

 

Catalogman, your wishes are fullfilled.  :)  The Linux executable (orb_det_linux) for amd64 is now included. Took some effort to make a win32 and win64 version since code was written in TPW for win3.0 (16 bit) and not touched since 1999.... The Linux version was then a small step. Download:

http://www.hnsky.org/orb_det.zip

 

For a Linux version you will need only the executable, the readme.txt and one or two da2 files containing some sample positions.

 

Note also that the HNSKY Hyper Leda catalog has grown to 2.440.000 objects.(separate download, 100 mbyte unpacked) A little overkill, but I have said that before. Note also that the 3.9 mil objects others are claiming are all in the Hype Leda catalog, but after filtering out objects marked as stars, false detection's and so on you end up with 2.44 mil galaxies and some other objects. No more.

 

Note also that from today HNSKY for Linux is at 3.3ß12. Some feedback is welcome.

 

Han


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Posted 15 July 2016 - 11:17 PM

That was fast, thanks for your hard work!

 

  Orbital determination is a topic that has been asked on CN before:

 

    http://www.cloudynig...asteroid-orbit/
    http://www.cloudynig...m-observations/

 

  so orb_det would be a useful utility to add to Oleg's distro.

 

- Regarding databases, the 3.9 million galaxies in Starry Night Pro is
  from the (proprietary?) ASGC, or All-Sky Galaxy Catalogue, which
  includes HYPERLEDA and other sources.

 

  The 1.5 million galaxies file (PGC2009) in Cartes du Ciel was improperly
  compiled with only 50 lookup files, so it runs slow. Maybe the updated
  list of 2.4 million HYPERLEDA galaxies could be included and properly
  compiled in Oleg's distro?

 

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#29 Oleg Astro

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 07:45 PM

I can't create a good *.iso image from my project :(

 

I use the Pinguy Builder for this operation, but its image doesn't work correctly after installation: its boot loader has defect - installed "Ubuntu Astronomy" distributive can't load :(


Edited by Oleg Astro, 22 July 2016 - 07:47 PM.


#30 Oleg Astro

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 11:32 AM

I found the source of my problem with Pinguy Builder!


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#31 Oleg Astro

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Posted 26 July 2016 - 10:50 PM

You can download its daily snapshot ubuntu_astronomy_16.04_260716_64bit.iso.

 

Also, you can see the screen shots on FB page Ubuntu Astronomy.


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#32 Oleg Astro

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Posted 04 August 2016 - 06:11 PM

You can download its daily snapshot ubuntu_astronomy_16.04_040816_64bit.iso.


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 03:16 AM

Hello.

 

I don't know if it useful for you, but I've created PPA repository for Siril.

So now it is possible to easily install the last version on Ubuntu 16.04

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lock042/siril
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install siril

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Posted 29 August 2016 - 10:09 AM

I downloaded version ubuntu_astronomy_16.04_040816_64bit.iso in late august, and tried to install it into a virtualbox.  The live boot worked fine, but when I tried to install it to the virtual harddrive, it had problems with writing the grub files (it gave me several choices (sda, sda1...) but none would actually work (just came back to the same choices after rejecting the one I chose).  The result of this was a non booting copy.  I have several other Ubuntu in this virtual box set up.  Distro-Astro, Ubuntu 64 bit with ROS, and a Debian 64 bit.  All installed flawlessly on my computer under virtual box (Under Fedora). 

 

Anyway, I am not sure what is going on with the grub installation.  I tried both the direct install and install from live media.  After the first installation it recognized that the OS was present on the harddrive (the new installation wanted to delete it), but whatever I install, grub will not install. 

 

Any help would be appreciated.  I would like to see this system in action.

Thanks,

John

 



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Posted 04 September 2016 - 11:47 AM

You can try to install it with terminal:
 

sudo sh -c 'ubiquity gtk_ui'


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Posted 04 September 2016 - 04:06 PM

Great list ! Let's add this gem -> astrometry (with ao. the solve-field program) https://github.com/d.../astrometry.net

and add INDI to the PHD2 entry

and add dcd.py (Device Control Device) as generic INDI client http://pygtkindiclie...ourceforge.net/

I can list a few others, Midas, PP3 and such.

We should add the latest Gimp to the list, now that it can do better than 8-bits-per-color

 

I also propose to add a list of non-free software for Linux, like PixInsight and Startools !


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#37 Oleg Astro

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 06:08 PM

Why Midas?

 

We have the THELI GUI


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Posted 10 September 2016 - 04:38 PM

I downloaded version ubuntu_astronomy_16.04_040816_64bit.iso in late august, and tried to install it into a virtualbox.  The live boot worked fine, but when I tried to install it to the virtual harddrive, it had problems with writing the grub files (it gave me several choices (sda, sda1...) but none would actually work (just came back to the same choices after rejecting the one I chose).  The result of this was a non booting copy.  I have several other Ubuntu in this virtual box set up.  Distro-Astro, Ubuntu 64 bit with ROS, and a Debian 64 bit.  All installed flawlessly on my computer under virtual box (Under Fedora). 

 

Anyway, I am not sure what is going on with the grub installation.  I tried both the direct install and install from live media.  After the first installation it recognized that the OS was present on the harddrive (the new installation wanted to delete it), but whatever I install, grub will not install. 

 

Any help would be appreciated.  I would like to see this system in action.

Thanks,

John

Open your Oracle VM VirtualBox Manager for one change in setting:
System -> Motherboard -> Extended Features -> (and select) Enable EFI (special OSes only)

 

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Posted 16 September 2016 - 12:55 AM

Ok, so I enabled EFI.  It went through installation, did not ask me for a user name, and it now set up with a user 'astronom'.  Is that correct?  If so what is his password? 

Thanks,

John



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Posted 16 September 2016 - 05:14 AM

Ok, so I enabled EFI.  It went through installation, did not ask me for a user name, and it now set up with a user 'astronom'.  Is that correct?  If so what is his password? 

Thanks,

John

Login: astronom

Password: 12341234


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 09:58 AM

Ok, it is installed in a virtualbox, and I see it comes with a lot of software I recognize, and a lot that is new to me.  so I am trying to learn it.   I have a philisophical question for you though, and I have asked the same question on distro astro.  Two astronomy packages based on Ubuntu seem one too many.  Rather than duplicating efforts, why not contribute all this work and organization to the other one.   I am basically asking as a user who will have to decide at some point which one I will use.  They both look like winners, so why have the competition?   

 

I hope to give a talk this fall at my local astro club on using linux for astrophotography.  This is a question I know I will get, and I know multiple distributions will just muddy the decision to give this a try. 

 

Thank you for any information on this,

John


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 12:38 PM

I want to create an open operation system "Ubuntu Astronomy" similar to Ubuntu Studio.

 

As default, this "Ubuntu Astronomy" must not contain the WINE and any *.exe software for OS Windows.


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 02:05 PM

Thanks for your response.  I do agree with the idea to leave wine behind and that helps explain the why of a different version.   I am going to be trying to familiarize myself with this over the next few weeks.  It is looking like a very extensive package. Thank you for your hard work here.

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 02:58 PM

Is there a version that does not require UEFI?   I just installed guest additions so I could access a shared drive, and it brought UA to its knees.

 

Basically it now says on bootup:

 

'fso:\EFI\ubuntu\grub64.efi' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program, or script file.

 

It was working before guest additions was installed.

 

I have a laptop I could install it on, but it too old for uefi. 

 

So is there an non uefi version (64 bit if possible) that can be installed?

 

John



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Posted 22 September 2016 - 03:10 PM


So is there an non uefi version (64 bit if possible) that can be installed?

 

John

I am working about a new non UEFI version.


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 03:27 PM

I cannot ask for more. I will be looking forward to it!

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Posted 24 September 2016 - 02:00 PM

John,

You can also set up a Samba server on your host system and access it from Windows in VM (that's what I do on my Linux computers when I need to run some Win-only processing tool).


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Posted 24 September 2016 - 03:57 PM

IMHO, new 64 bit beta version will be accessed tomorrow:

 

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Posted 25 September 2016 - 10:56 AM

I do have windows 7 in a virtual box if I need to use windows for something.  I can eliminate windows completely except for a few astrophotography tasks.  Ultimately my goal is to eliminate windows completely.  

 

I will be checking to download the new beta today.

 

John


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Posted 25 September 2016 - 07:51 PM

My Internet connection has a very slow (~100KB/s) upload speed :(

I need about 9 hours for upload....




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