I guess my Micro surely doesn't function exactly the same as my LN300 NTSC model. Nor are the components the same (same everything to include the DSP inside it). When the factory defaults are restored they are the exact same number too. The only difference is the green LED on my LN300 and Red one on the Micro. They are clones.
My LNTech HD SDI camera is a clone of the MC model. I don't need to see the inside of the real deal. Rock was kind enough to provide pictures and show the pcb and components. He also provided the sensor used in it.
I'll leave it up to you on the LNTech dome cam and the MC All Sky to believe me. The youtube earlier on maintaining it and the link to it on ali prove the cases are the same and the black plastic dome. Did you know the DSP was an RJ10 too? Guess what, my LNTech has the same DSP.
Rock can't do anything to add his touch to any of the above three cameras except add his label.
As to his ToupTek cams ask yourself a simple question. If only the CASES for the color DSc were tied up at customs and he had his video boards in the shop, why didn't he take some of the mono boards out of their case and place the color pcb model in it to sell? If he did that "simple task" and actually tested the software he would have found it didn't work for the SR DSc. Right? Could it be the cases also contained the color DSc pcbs? I'll let you think about that one.
I don't call placing a label on something and taking credit for you designing it a "spin".
I don't think Rock lost any money. If you want to see how the cameras are priced contact ToupTek. Would it surprise you that his prices are GREATLY increased for the label only (can't do anything to the CMOS cameras). Maybe he could "afford" to have good customer service and still enjoy a hefty profit. But, I agree he did have satisfied customers.
Please remember, in a previous post I said the demise of MC began when AVS started and when Rock began selling the LNTech cameras. It carried in to the ToupTek line after that. I never said anything about his older analogue line-up or the improvements he made to them. As some has said in this thread, Rock needs to return to his roots and design (modify) other analog cameras.
Please note, there was also one other act Rock did that opened the eyes of many of his former fan-base.
Gee, I guess you must not agree ZWO, Atik and SX don't offer good alternatives. I'd also say Atik put a new spin on our hobby with their program and so did the freeware program Paul offered for SX. I'd consider this something new.
Many people started EAA using webcams, then older Panny video cams in this forum then went on to Sammy's. Then to MC.
It certainly seems as though you feel differently about Rock's claims than I do. As stated earlier in this thread (on the MC website), Rock said he hand picks other camera models. The problem is, he's never said which ones. Up to now it must be none because he rants and raves about what a great job he did designing it. Do you see a difference in "handpicking other cameras" and stating you designed it. IMHO, it's either one or another for the cameras I described above.
Ask yourself this question...if the SR DSc was such a good camera why have so many began to appear in the Classifieds?
I do see things a little differently than you. I see Rock as a follower now. Why did he just release the 825 and new "prototype" cams. They were already in use since other companies offered them. The difference in the ASI1600 and MC protype is minor. The MC has 4K capability, the ZWO doesn't. I don't think any SX or Atik users will be trading in their 825 cams for the MC. Do you see my point here (Rock is a follower)?
David B in NM
Edited by David B in NM, 08 September 2016 - 03:38 PM.