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[Pinac]

Thanks for this one, Mark!

Your link also shows another detail I had forgitten to mention: Hensoldt called theirs the "Nacht-Dialyt" (Night-Dialyt), not just the Dialyt. Not because it was marketed as an astro glass, I guess, but because you could use it for hunting well into the twilight. Who knows how many innocent, unsuspecting bystanders got shot because some elderly guy thought that thanks to his Nacht-Dialyt, he had finally detected that long expected bore behind the bush he had been waiting for so long ... 

[shrike3612]

Thank you for good review.

[btr209]

Nice work!

 

Just one thing,  I have measured the effective eye-relief of the Conquest HD 15x56 at 13mm (from the edge of the eyecup), it is comparable to what I have seen elsewhere on the internet, Zeiss claims 18mm, the lens of the eyepiece is rather far recessed which could explain this difference. Anyway, as a spectacle wearer I find  the ER of the Conquest HD to be too short.

 

Could you please measure the effective ER of your 15x56s, that would be very interesting to have real life values.

 

Regards

[Pinac]

Will do tomorrow.

Now, sleeping time for me (nothing to see outside, the night being cloudy today, as the name of this forum suggests ... )

Pinac

Edited by Pinac, 01 October 2017 - 03:12 PM.

[edwincjones]

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I have a recently made, old design, alpha - in its day,

zeiss dialyt 8x56 that is my favorite handheld binocular

for the night sky

-sharp

-comfortable

-as Pinac says "a personal perception that excels the sum of it qualities"

 

edj

 

You are absolutely right - the Dialyt was certainly an alpha in its day.

Zeiss made them until a few months ago, but then stopped production, and now there is only a special edition available, which comes in a nice wooden case and costs 2'500 Euros (!)

I think the design of the Dialyt goes back to Hensoldt, which produced a - non-armored - Hensoldt Dialyt 8x56 until 1967 (Hensoldt got acquired by Zeiss in 1928, but continued to make their Dialyt unteil the late sixties, and then from 1968 there was only the Zeiss Dialyt on the market).

In the picture are the Hensoldt (left) and the Zeiss (right), side by side. The Hensoldt is from 1955, the  Zeiss from 2014.

In Germany, if you carry a Dialyt, everybody will assume you are a hunter, it used to be THE hunting glass for generations.

The only little disadvantage of the Dialyt: a relatively narrow FOV (110m), compared e.g. to the same size FL (130m). But like you, I am still impressed with this classic glass with its excellent optics and distinguished design.

Pinac

It just feels good, I feel good with it.

 

edj

[Pinac]

Nice work!

 

Just one thing,  I have measured the effective eye-relief of the Conquest HD 15x56 at 13mm (from the edge of the eyecup), it is comparable to what I have seen elsewhere on the internet, Zeiss claims 18mm, the lens of the eyepiece is rather far recessed which could explain this difference. Anyway, as a spectacle wearer I find  the ER of the Conquest HD to be too short.

 

Could you please measure the effective ER of your 15x56s, that would be very interesting to have real life values.

 

Regards

 

I agree with your measurement of the "practical eye-relief" as being 13mm for the Conquest ED. The 18mm indicated by the manufacturer are clearly measured from the surface of the eyelens (which is in line with how "the books" define eye-relief, but doesn't help the spectacle wearer much in practice).

 

For the MeoStar HD, I measure a "practical eye-relief" of about 11mm from the edge of the eyecup (which seems in line with Meopta's indication of 15mm, as measured from the lens surface). Again, probably too short for spectacle wearers (I always observe without).

 

Pinac

Edited by Pinac, 02 October 2017 - 10:48 AM.

[btr209]

Ok, so it is a no-brainer for spectacle wearers then, the Meopta has to be ruled out (unfortunately).

 

Regards.

[Milos1977]

 Thanks for this excellent and very useful review. I was waiting for this a while ago, although I could not afford Meopta, I played with it and liked it a lot in the store. I went with Monarch 5 16x56, and still like it a lot. 

 

btw, your first paragraph basically sums it all for me as well. Couldn't agree more, Lately i have been carrying Canon 15x50 as I love handheld flexibility. As far as power vs weight vs size and borderline handheld day/night use, you got the dream collection to compare and enjoy. 

 

cheers!