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#51 Sarkikos  Happy Birthday!

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 05:35 AM

Maybe so.  TeleVue and other options have always been more well known.  Eyepieces for astronomy were never a major focus for Pentax or Ricoh.  And now apparently they want all their astronomy eyepiece lines to die on the vine.

 

Perhaps we should support companies that actually care about their amateur astronomy customers?   :shrug:

 

In any case, I'm still keeping my XO's!

 

Mike


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 07:21 AM

I've owned the 5mm and 3.5mm XW's for a few years now and recently added the 7mm and 10mm to create a short set.

 

I also have the 4.7 and 3.7 Ethos so compare these with the shorter XW's quite regularly. They are all outstanding eyepieces for sure but a recent finding is that the XW's show faint planetary moons such as Triton (Neptune), Titania and Oberon (Uranus) just a little more readily than the Ethos do. The difference is slight and manifests itself in the extent to which these faint objects can be held in averted vs direct vision but they do "pop" just that little bit easier with the XW's.

 

I'm very glad I have my short XW set and the eyepiece market will be slightly poorer if / when the XW's became extinct IMHO.


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 07:51 AM

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 08:10 AM

I have emailed twice but still haven't heard back from Ricoh yet. 



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Posted 22 September 2016 - 09:44 AM

Were the sales not good enough? The 3.5 and 5 XW's are excellent eyepieces. I prefer the Delos only because the 4.5 and the 6 suit my 12.5 inch, F5 telescope better for me.

 

I bought all my XW's years ago before any recent sales.  When I bought them the new prices were still not too bad.  Many of them I did buy used, so the prices were even better.  

 

But the current prices for new XW's and for used 2" XW's?  Forgetaboutit.  Not for me.  

 

Like I said, I'm done with the XW's.  They are nice eyepieces, but I don't miss switching back and forth looking for the best framing, exit pupil, image scale, whatever.  Good zooms are so much quicker and more convenient.  For the short and long ends of the focal length range, I've gone on to other eyepieces that match my purposes and preferences much better.

 

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 03:38 AM

The only XW that I would like to add to my eyepiece collection is the 30.  But probably not at $600-$650.

 

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 05:41 AM

At that price you might as well go for a new 31 T5.

 

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 06:14 AM

At that price you'd be silly not to. 


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Posted 23 September 2016 - 08:04 PM

I called Ricoh 5 minutes ago after not receiving an email response and was told that the 3.5mm and 5mm are not on their website LINK because they have been discontinued. The representative said at this time there are no plans to discontinue the 7mm, 10mm, 14mm or 20mm (at this time was emphasized).  So I'll take it that the 3.5mm and the 5mm are discontinued. 



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Posted 23 September 2016 - 08:55 PM

I called Ricoh 5 minutes ago after not receiving an email response and was told that the 3.5mm and 5mm are no on their website LINK because they have been discontinued. The representative said at this time there are no plans to discontinue the 7mm, 10mm, 14mm or 20mm (at this time was emphasized).  So I'll take it that the 3.5mm and the 5mm are discontinued. 

Thanks for the confirmation Jay.



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Posted 24 September 2016 - 06:10 PM

And then there were four.  But no mystery here.  Supporting astronomy customers is not a high priority for Ricoh.

 

Mike


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Posted 25 September 2016 - 05:35 PM

And then there were four.  But no mystery here.  Supporting astronomy customers is not a high priority for Ricoh.

 

Mike

Probably true, Mike, but they're big in optical medical science and other areas including, obviously,. Cameras.   All companies go where the market and money is and if certain eyepieces aren't commercially viable then Ricoh are doing what other companies do.   Despite that they have stuck to the long Pentax tradition of producing the best there is.



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Posted 25 September 2016 - 10:01 PM

 

And then there were four.  But no mystery here.  Supporting astronomy customers is not a high priority for Ricoh.

 

Mike

Probably true, Mike, but they're big in optical medical science and other areas including, obviously,. Cameras.   All companies go where the market and money is and if certain eyepieces aren't commercially viable then Ricoh are doing what other companies do.   Despite that they have stuck to the long Pentax tradition of producing the best there is.

 

 

Whether it is eyepieces or anything else astronomy related - we have to keep things in perspective. In terms of market size or dollars spent, amateur astronomy is the pimple on the rear end of the elephant. We either depend upon the cottage industry players, or the innovative amateurs who experiment and/or adapt equipment to astronomy use.


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Posted 01 June 2020 - 08:14 PM

Whether it is eyepieces or anything else astronomy related - we have to keep things in perspective. In terms of market size or dollars spent, amateur astronomy is the pimple on the rear end of the elephant. We either depend upon the cottage industry players, or the innovative amateurs who experiment and/or adapt equipment to astronomy use.

could not have been put better.



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Posted 01 June 2020 - 11:05 PM

2016 Thread.


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Posted 02 June 2020 - 04:21 AM

All the 8 (eight) XW eyepieces are alive and well in 2020, including the re-introduced 30mm and 40mm.

http://www.ricoh-ima...e/xw/index.html

 

Pentax fans have never had it so good!


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Posted 03 June 2020 - 10:10 PM

I can confirm that.  I just bought all of them except the 3.5mm which I already have.


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Posted 05 June 2020 - 09:35 PM

It was this kind of info that made me buy the 3.5,5 no regrets.


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Posted 06 June 2020 - 12:32 PM

Now if they would rerelease the 5 & 2.5 XOs again....and expand the line up thru about 22mm....



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Posted 06 June 2020 - 01:53 PM

Now if they would rerelease the 5 & 2.5 XOs again....and expand the line up thru about 22mm....

 

 

Only if they could get the eye relief to around 5mm.  I found the 5 XO almost unusable.



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Posted 06 June 2020 - 08:41 PM

2016 Thread.

I had no idea as I started reading the resurrected thread.  Just assumed it was current.  Thought it was curious that Pentax would reintroduce the 30 and 40 then discontinue the 5 and 3.5, but nevertheless kept reading.  Then as I scrolled down some saw a pic of the 30 and 40 XW with a little Buddha statue between them and thought, "Wow, someone has the same little statue I have!" Then I looked up at who posted that pic and say it was ME in 2016 roflmao.gif

 

Love the XWs.  Doubt they will ever leave.  They are the "friendliest" eyepieces I've ever used.  But I often, for convenience, just use the middle four: 30, 20, 14, 10.  To those I add a 2.5x Powermate for 8, 6, 4.  Great as a whole set; great as a partial set; just a great set!


Edited by BillP, 06 June 2020 - 09:27 PM.

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