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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:27 PM

Stunned. It's never been used. It's brand new. The objective dust cap and documentation is missing. Other than that, there isn't a mark on it. No fingerprints. No dust.

 

First pic - a cardinal in my yard - good optics, no CA. Very sharp. Meade MA40 and my Windows phone.

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:29 PM

The box

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:30 PM

That is so totally awesome! Love the photo, please post some beauty shots of this lovely lady. :-)


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:31 PM

Front - no dust, completely clean

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:32 PM

Wow! What an extraordinarily cool find!


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:34 PM

Rear view

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:35 PM

Focuser

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:38 PM

Split ring diagonal. Perfectly collimated. Anyone have any idea of the epoch of this scope? The box has a leatherette carrying handle.

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 05:03 PM

One indication of the age is the drawtube cover, which is extremely yellowed white plastic. The yoke is threaded for a camera tripod, which is convenient. I found an objective cap that fits. My lucky day I guess! Found for $50 at Mission Hospital Thrift&Gift. It had been donated to the store.

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 05:43 PM

Very excellent performer - ran through my good .965 Meade eyepieces and Tasco 2x Barlow and porro-prism - plays well with all.

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:05 PM

Anyone have any idea of the epoch of this scope?

 

Early 1960s, based on the focuser knobs.  Mine are plainer, and probably late 60s / early 70s.

 

M4348 - Restore C04S2.jpg

 

Astrophotography?  Shoot, yeah!!

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:12 PM

It came with a really slick looking diagonal, very Unitron-y. Plus a H12.5mm and a sun filter -er- ^H^H^H^H dust cap.

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:14 PM

I think N-S & Towa bought these diagonals from the same source... Tani

 

With Towa, the older the better!



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:31 PM

My 4366 has knobs like BB's, but we figured mine can't be any later than 1967 because the mailing address on the literature it was packed with lacked a ZIP code.

 

Mine has the very same logo font, etc. as this new one, and the same style of box, too.


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:12 PM

Optical report - I ran it up to 50x per inch and it didn't even breathe hard. 100x, some slight color fringing noticeable but the image held together. The diagonal is a tad inferior - a tiny tad - to my RAO diagonal that came with my Tasco (curved back). The latter also vignettes a smidgen less.

 

How did the Japanese optical techs hit homerun after homerun? I know this is "only" a 50mm objective but it could not be more perfect. Same story for my RAO 90mm and 76mm. My Towa 60mm is also fantastic. Sooner or later I should come across a dog right? All of them outperform (not by much) my 90s vintage Meade 90mm f/11 - the latter of course is getting to the point where CA is a real problem.

 

Does anyone in classic land own a Monolux larger than 60mm?

 

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:25 PM

How did the Japanese optical techs hit homerun after homerun?

 

IDK... but in 7/10 seeing this morning, my 1964 Astro-Optical 76x1200 resolved 7 belts on Jupiter at 160x & 240x (54x & 80x per inch) -- not too shabby! 


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:32 PM


 

Does anyone in classic land own a Monolux larger than 60mm?

 

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By far the most common Monolux fracs you'll see discussed on here are the model 4380s which AFAIK were all made by sources other than Towa (APL, HOC and OTS, I think).  Those are all 60mm f/15s, though. 

 

The only three Monolux models I've found in my research that were bigger than 60mm were the 4382 and 4384 -- both 80mm refractors of ratio f/15 and f/20 respectively -- and a 90mm reflector designated model 4445.



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Posted 12 January 2017 - 09:30 PM

 


 

Does anyone in classic land own a Monolux larger than 60mm?

 

-drl

 

 

 

The only three Monolux models I've found in my research that were bigger than 60mm were the 4382 and 4384 -- both 80mm refractors of ratio f/15 and f/20 respectively -- and a 90mm reflector designated model 4445.

 

I was robbed!

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 10:09 PM

I was robbed! 

 

 

 

 

:lol: Hey, thanks for sharing, strdst!  Either I fat-fingered the entry in my notes, or some website I read gave me a bum steer.  (Moo!)  Notes updated!



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Posted 12 January 2017 - 10:32 PM

 


 

Does anyone in classic land own a Monolux larger than 60mm?

 

-drl

By far the most common Monolux fracs you'll see discussed on here are the model 4380s which AFAIK were all made by sources other than Towa (APL, HOC and OTS, I think).  Those are all 60mm f/15s, though. 

 

The only three Monolux models I've found in my research that were bigger than 60mm were the 4382 and 4384 -- both 80mm refractors of ratio f/15 and f/20 respectively -- and a 90mm reflector designated model 4445.

 

Monolux 4382 , 80mm. f15 , and the Monolux 4384 , 80mm. f20................... :praying: Monolux 4445 :praying:

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 11:12 AM

Wait -- One of you has a 4382 that's 75mm and another has a 4382 that's 80mm?!  MIND. BLOWN.  :shocked:


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Posted 13 January 2017 - 12:26 PM

Permanent home for Monnie - side scope of my 127ED

 

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 12:28 PM

Great idea!  My Mini is the guidescope for my Edmund 4" F15, and it's fun to compare the views.



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Posted 13 January 2017 - 12:56 PM

 

 


 

Does anyone in classic land own a Monolux larger than 60mm?

 

-drl

By far the most common Monolux fracs you'll see discussed on here are the model 4380s which AFAIK were all made by sources other than Towa (APL, HOC and OTS, I think).  Those are all 60mm f/15s, though. 

 

The only three Monolux models I've found in my research that were bigger than 60mm were the 4382 and 4384 -- both 80mm refractors of ratio f/15 and f/20 respectively -- and a 90mm reflector designated model 4445.

 

Monolux 4382 , 80mm. f15 , and the Monolux 4384 , 80mm. f20................... :praying: Monolux 4445 :praying:

 

Tom, every time I see that 80mm F20 Monolux, two things strike me: first and foremost is how very cool it is! But secondly, I am amazed that an importer like Monolux (which I put in the same category as Mayflower and Manon) would import such a unique and specialized, niche instrument! I wonder how profitable it was for them. My guess is that it was not, and was a very limited number, perhaps the end of a run. It's my guess that such long telescopes enjoyed greater popularity amongst native Japanese buyers than they did over here. Especially since Mayflower, Monolux, and Manon were sold here more in department stores and camera stores and weren't mass marketed in the hobby media.


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 11:34 AM

A mix of old and new - I had these aluminum legs which are quite nice, found a tripod head and yoke on Telescope Warehouse, replaced the yoke with the one for this scope. Old and new! I like it.

 

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