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#1 Simon Alderman

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 07:27 PM

Or listed on Astronomics website as "wait list" anyway...

Fpl-53 glass, 2 speed r&p, rings and dovetail bar.

Looks pretty sweet!

 

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 07:33 PM

Neat! Maybe there will be a closeout sale of the originals?


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Posted 08 June 2017 - 09:38 PM

Or listed on Astronomics website as "wait list" anyway...

Fpl-53 glass, 2 speed r&p, rings and dovetail bar.

Looks pretty sweet!

 

https://www.astronom...-f6_p20533.aspx

 

Looks sweet.. I like the FPL-53.. 

 

Jon


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Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:15 PM

It looks  like an improvement over the AT72ED, but no mention of weight. No case, which isn't a big loss. I will have to think about trading my ED for the ED2. Still hoping for an 80mm FPL53 doublet from AT though. 

 

Stellarvue is about an 90 minutes down the road from me. Tempted to take a ride to inspect their new 80mm doublet if AT doesn't step up soon. 


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Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:29 PM

It weighs 4.65 pounds with the dovetail and rings. We will not have an 80mm doublet. I can't justify the 8mm difference in the line and prefer the jump to a triplet. We have tried same sizes in different optical configurations in the past and it would lock customers up to the point of not purchasing anything.
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Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:30 PM

I appreciate the feedback however.

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:43 PM

It weighs 4.65 pounds with the dovetail and rings. We will not have an 80mm doublet. I can't justify the 8mm difference in the line and prefer the jump to a triplet. We have tried same sizes in different optical configurations in the past and it would lock customers up to the point of not purchasing anything.

 

Mike:

 

The lack of a rotating focuser had me concerned but since it mounts with rings, that's a non-issue.  I weighed my AT-72ED at 5.0 pounds so the new one is actually a little lighter.  

 

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:10 PM

I appreciate the feedback however.

Michael,

 

And, I appreciate knowing about your 80mm plans.  I bought the 72ED about two years ago as a low cost proof of concept to determine whether a ~3-inch refractor suited my needs at this observing site. If so, i intended to buy a more refined version of the same basic telescope, but perhaps slightly larger (80mm) at about the same weight. It looks like your ED2 addresses most of the improvements i would like to see.

 

Since then, I have decided that i do have a place for a small refractor,  and I've concentrated on refining my mount, tripod, and diagonal while waiting for a new crop of refractors to sprout. I am strictly visual, appreciate lighter weight (setup for 1.25") slightly faster cooling, and perhaps (?) better balance and reliability of a doublet.  Can you comment on the balance and the finder options for the ED2 vs 72ED? 


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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:14 PM

The balance of the new scope will be superior for sure as you have 8" of dovetail to work with as well as the ability to slide the tube inside the rings. Finder options are quite robust. We will have a vixen style foot for a small fee, think around $10 or so. I just got in some 8x50 RA finders that will attach to that foot. They are very competitively priced, as in under $60. You could also attach a multi reticle finder if you didn't want a magnified one.
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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:16 PM

The 72ED has an attached foot, which can cause balance issues. That being said, you can attach a dovetail to the foot that will give you balance options. I only have one choice for a finder, it is our multi reticle.

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:20 PM

Michael,

 

This little scope looks truly awesome! You have really outdone yourself on this one, it's gorgeous! Okay, how do I go about pre-ordering one?

 

Erin



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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:22 PM

 

It weighs 4.65 pounds with the dovetail and rings. We will not have an 80mm doublet. I can't justify the 8mm difference in the line and prefer the jump to a triplet. We have tried same sizes in different optical configurations in the past and it would lock customers up to the point of not purchasing anything.

 

Mike:

 

The lack of a rotating focuser had me concerned but since it mounts with rings, that's a non-issue.  I weighed my AT-72ED at 5.0 pounds so the new one is actually a little lighter.  

 

Jon

 

Mine is 7# ready to observe with 24mm Panoptic, TV 1.25" diagonal, AT multi reticle finder, and 7" vixen mounting bar attached to stock vixen mounting foot (required to balance).


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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:22 PM

Are there more photos of the new prototypes anywhere?



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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:25 PM

I have a prototype at the office, but it isn't the proper color combination.

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:31 PM

Could you pretty please post photos? It's just nice to have telescope porn to drool over while waiting for delivery. :-)



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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:36 PM

The balance of the new scope will be superior for sure as you have 8" of dovetail to work with as well as the ability to slide the tube inside the rings. Finder options are quite robust. We will have a vixen style foot for a small fee, think around $10 or so. I just got in some 8x50 RA finders that will attach to that foot. They are very competitively priced, as in under $60. You could also attach a multi reticle finder if you didn't want a magnified one.

Yes, i  added  a vixen foot to get my 72ED to balance correctly on an alt/az mount set up for 1.25" EPs only. It's tail (focuser) heavy, which actually helps because, when it's balanced In the mount, the EP height doesn't change as much between horizon and zenith.

 

Wish gravity didn't make the dew shield slide back when the tube is pointed up. Assume there must be someway to adjust tension, but i have been using a rubber band behind the dew shield for two years :-)


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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:36 PM

I can take some photos when I get to the office.
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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:42 PM

You are so totally awesome, thank you! :-)



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 09:15 AM

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 09:26 AM

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Wow!


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Posted 09 June 2017 - 10:40 AM

Wow is right! Time to break open the old piggybank. How do I pre-order? Just place an order and it's put on hold until they're ready to ship?



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 10:43 AM

Oooooooo...

Very nice! I think I know what my next scope will be.


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Posted 09 June 2017 - 10:51 AM

Wow is right! Time to break open the old piggybank. How do I pre-order? Just place an order and it's put on hold until they're ready to ship?

That is correct.  As long as you don't use paypal, no payment is taken until the scope is ready to ship.  They are currently on the website so it can be ordered that way or by phone.  Thanks.



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 01:25 PM

I called and ordered one this morning. Best guess is 6/22 delivery to Astronomics. If it works out, i will put my AT72ED in the CN classifieds, so it shouldn't cost me too much too upgrade to the ED2. Waiting to hear whether my existing AT multi-retical finder and base can be moved over to the new scope. 


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Posted 09 June 2017 - 03:48 PM

Do you know who you talked too?  The e-mail that went out gave a date of 3-4 months.  I can only assume the person here thought it was the current 72.  We don't expect the scopes until October.




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