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#51 Chuck Hards

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 03:08 PM

I've brought worse Manons than that back from the dead.  It will have to sell for about twenty bucks to be worth it, with the shipping charges.  That objective is scary but I have extras.  I may try for it.

 

Looks like a prior owner scratched his SS number into the focuser.  People don't do that anymore...  It's also missing one of the two foam support/inserts.  


 

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 06:06 PM

SS# ?  looks like a date, 04-22-1958 (?)  Were they made that far back?  Maybe it's a birthday.

 

Doesn't the Styrofoam inserts make it newer?  Mine is about '67, and has wood supports and a small box in the large box.


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#53 Chuck Hards

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 06:11 PM

Any Manon from that early would be HOC.  The silver tubes were the last made, late 60s, early 70s.

 

Maybe a phone #?


 

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 06:11 PM

 

 

Here you go Chas, just a few miles down the road from you!

Here is what?  Will it fit in the Vette?

 

I doubt it will fit in the Vette. Maybe for now you should stick to spotting scopeslol.gif

 

I think they are talking baout the 12" Mak in FL.

 

Never cared for Maks.  Had a Q-7 and not worth the money honey.


 

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 09:18 PM

My 5.5"

 

 

 

 

Here you go Chas, just a few miles down the road from you!

Here is what?  Will it fit in the Vette?

 

I doubt it will fit in the Vette. Maybe for now you should stick to spotting scopeslol.gif

 

I think they are talking baout the 12" Mak in FL.

 

Never cared for Maks.  Had a Q-7 and not worth the money honey.

 

Never a big fan either. I picked up a 5.5" F9.5ish Aerial camera from well.. Who knows what. Incredibly good optics, superbly built, Quartz mirror. Very portable 5.5"scope. Far better than any 5 or 6" SCT I've used. Due to the design it cools very quickly. CO is largish, but it is an F9.5.


 

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 09:40 PM

My 5.5"

 

Never cared for Maks.  Had a Q-7 and not worth the money honey.

 

I think they are talking baout the 12" Mak in FL.

 

 

Never a big fan either. I picked up a 5.5" F9.5ish Aerial camera from well.. Who knows what. Incredibly good optics, superbly built, Quartz mirror. Very portable 5.5"scope. Far better than any 5 or 6" SCT I've used. Due to the design it cools very quickly. CO is largish, but it is an F9.5.

My Maks outperform any SCT I've owned.  And the MTF curve is better on high frequency features like rilles or crater edges than refractors.  Also, there is less glass than some of the APO triplets when having things settle.  My Questar 7's did settle in a similar timeframe as my AP EDT/EDFs.  Not an acquired taste, just a different blend. wink.gif


 

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 10:29 PM

Nkas have a sweet spot.  Most Maks I have had all have been good. Cannot say that about all the SCT's I have owned.


 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 01:31 AM

 

My 5.5"

 

Never cared for Maks.  Had a Q-7 and not worth the money honey.

 

I think they are talking baout the 12" Mak in FL.

 

 

Never a big fan either. I picked up a 5.5" F9.5ish Aerial camera from well.. Who knows what. Incredibly good optics, superbly built, Quartz mirror. Very portable 5.5"scope. Far better than any 5 or 6" SCT I've used. Due to the design it cools very quickly. CO is largish, but it is an F9.5.

My Maks outperform any SCT I've owned.  And the MTF curve is better on high frequency features like rilles or crater edges than refractors.  Also, there is less glass than some of the APO triplets when having things settle.  My Questar 7's did settle in a similar timeframe as my AP EDT/EDFs.  Not an acquired taste, just a different blend. wink.gif

 

The one I own, an ETX90 from about Y2K is outstanding. Perfect Airy pattern and dead on collimation. The first ring has the textbook brightening from the central obstruction, otherwise you'd think it was a refractor. That little guy will get a workout in front of my Nikon in one month! Eventually I will buy a 7" Mak, either the Meade or a Synta, my last telescope likely.

 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 05:15 AM

I like small cheap Maks. No way i buy a Q3.5 for 3k +. But for under 800 smackers i would buy.


 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 06:51 AM

I like small cheap Maks. No way i buy a Q3.5 for 3k +. But for under 800 smackers i would buy.

You can still get a good early 80's Questar in the $1800-$2200 range with broadband coatings and possibly even a Powerguide.  What you don't get with the cheap Meade or other folks Maks is the wonderful control box synergy.  When you observe with a Questar frequently you really come to appreciate the effort Larry Braymer put into making the observing experience work with 89mm.  And it really is a grab and go scope extraordinaire.


 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 07:25 AM

 

I like small cheap Maks. No way i buy a Q3.5 for 3k +. But for under 800 smackers i would buy.

You can still get a good early 80's Questar in the $1800-$2200 range with broadband coatings and possibly even a Powerguide.  What you don't get with the cheap Meade or other folks Maks is the wonderful control box synergy.  When you observe with a Questar frequently you really come to appreciate the effort Larry Braymer put into making the observing experience work with 89mm.  And it really is a grab and go scope extraordinaire.

 

True although the fittings of the Meade seem fine to me - I don't use any of that because I work with a real mount and visual back. The tiny focus knob is irritating but it works and there is, amazingly, no image shift. As a small standalone scope the ETX90 is hard to use, but I got it as a telephoto mostly and for that it's an insane bargain.

 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 07:42 AM

True although the fittings of the Meade seem fine to me - I don't use any of that because I work with a real mount and visual back. The tiny focus knob is irritating but it works and there is, amazingly, no image shift. As a small standalone scope the ETX90 is hard to use, but I got it as a telephoto mostly and for that it's an insane bargain.

 

-drl

 

The ETX standalone, without the mount, is alot like a Questar Field model.  My ETX rides a Nexstar goto mount and that is a nice combination.  Not at all as portable as the Questar, where any table top will do.  With the addition of the 8, 12 and 32mm Brandons there is not a lot of viewing you can't do, without any additional stuff.  Why so many say it's the last scope they'll part with and I'm solidly in that camp.  Broadband coatings add an additional 22% brightness, which helps.  I would say to count yourself fortunate if your ETX has no image shift.  Not my experience and perhaps the only distractor of the product in general (and something to look at hard on any 7" Meade you might find).


 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 08:12 AM

Hy-Score Mod 417 on Ebay,  doesn't appear to be Goto.

 

http://www.ebay.com/...AcAAOSw0TxZX7DE


 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 08:35 AM

Hy-Score Mod 417 on Ebay,  doesn't appear to be Goto.

 

http://www.ebay.com/...AcAAOSw0TxZX7DE

Interesting, do you think it's any good?

 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 08:44 AM

 

I like small cheap Maks. No way i buy a Q3.5 for 3k +. But for under 800 smackers i would buy.

You can still get a good early 80's Questar in the $1800-$2200 range with broadband coatings and possibly even a Powerguide.  What you don't get with the cheap Meade or other folks Maks is the wonderful control box synergy.  When you observe with a Questar frequently you really come to appreciate the effort Larry Braymer put into making the observing experience work with 89mm.  And it really is a grab and go scope extraordinaire.

 

I hate the Meade plastic mounts. But just a OTA is fine if you can get one that is collimated. Many are out of collimation.


 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 08:45 AM

They're not that hard to collimate, done it a few times.


 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 08:56 AM

 

Hy-Score Mod 417 on Ebay,  doesn't appear to be Goto.

 

http://www.ebay.com/...AcAAOSw0TxZX7DE

Interesting, do you think it's any good?

 

-drl

 

Threads here discuss the unlikelihood that anything Lazlo had not labelled Goto would be Goto.  This was in catalog as spotter/astro multipurpose scope.  Mount looks cheap and I don't think anyone has reviewed one of these so certainly a rare item, and likely collectable for the time, but not interested in it personally and no thoughts on optics  The seller certainly thinks highly of it. lol.gif


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Posted 22 July 2017 - 11:01 AM

They're not that hard to collimate, done it a few times.

There was no way to collimate the 1's i had in the 90's.


 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 11:03 AM

 

They're not that hard to collimate, done it a few times.

There was no way to collimate the 1's i had in the 90's.

 

you have to take the back off the scope and the alignment screws are on the back of the mirror mount.

 

 

http://www.weasner.c...ollimating.html  instructions on how to do it.


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Posted 22 July 2017 - 12:30 PM

Very nice looking Edmund 4.25" newtonian on CL in Ohio.


 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 02:46 PM

I like small cheap Maks. No way i buy a Q3.5 for 3k +. But for under 800 smackers i would buy.

Dude, everybody would.  Stand in line.


 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 03:08 PM

 

I like small cheap Maks. No way i buy a Q3.5 for 3k +. But for under 800 smackers i would buy.

Dude, everybody would.  Stand in line.

 

The line would be to Jupiter and back if Q's would be selling for $800.


 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 03:15 PM

Enough sidebar on Maks please.  Thanks!


 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 03:43 PM

 

Hy-Score Mod 417 on Ebay,  doesn't appear to be Goto.

 

http://www.ebay.com/...AcAAOSw0TxZX7DE

Interesting, do you think it's any good?

 

-drl

 

That tripod will seriously fail to perform in much of any respect from vibration to stability when moving (spring back).  I've had that tripod with original scopes 1/3 the size of this one and it is minimal for those. Typically this tripod was with small 60mm or 50mm short tube refractors that had built in zoom eyepieces.


 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 04:13 PM

Stop the press!!!!a 60mm Pentax!!!

 

http://www.ebay.com/...CEAAOSwaGFZc349

 

OMG!!!! A 60mm Zeiss

 

http://www.ebay.com/...vwAAOSw0UdXujHW

 

 


Edited by rolo, 22 July 2017 - 04:16 PM.

 


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