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#51 bluestripe

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 10:27 AM

According to this link, Madras’ “surface smoke” looks ok, but the “vertical smoke integration” is not ideal. What is the difference between the two readings? Will the vertical smoke integration numbers ruin the views? I plan on photographing the eclipse, so I am worried.

http://airquality.we...p?period=4#tabs

I am wondering this as well. I'm in Prineville and very nervous about that big red cloid to the south.



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Posted 20 August 2017 - 10:36 AM

According to this link, Madras’ “surface smoke” looks ok, but the “vertical smoke integration” is not ideal. What is the difference between the two readings? Will the vertical smoke integration numbers ruin the views? I plan on photographing the eclipse, so I am worried.

http://airquality.we...p?period=4#tabs

I am wondering this as well. I'm in Prineville and very nervous about that big red cloid to the south.

Does the sky there look hazy currently?

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 10:39 AM

 

 

According to this link, Madras’ “surface smoke” looks ok, but the “vertical smoke integration” is not ideal. What is the difference between the two readings? Will the vertical smoke integration numbers ruin the views? I plan on photographing the eclipse, so I am worried.

http://airquality.we...p?period=4#tabs

I am wondering this as well. I'm in Prineville and very nervous about that big red cloid to the south.

Does the sky there look hazy currently?

 

Mostly clear,  few wispy clouds. Nothing like the giant smoke plume from Friday. But the smoke map is looking pretty good right now. 


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Posted 20 August 2017 - 11:44 AM

I am in Portland right now. Weather forecast on one of the channels predicts "Hazy" for Madras and "clear" for Salem. I am having second thoughts about going to Madras even though I have a tent spot booked there for tonight. Salem is appearing to be a better option for clear viewing....just 8 seconds less of totality.


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Posted 20 August 2017 - 12:44 PM

 


Does the sky there look hazy currently?

 

Mostly clear,  few wispy clouds. Nothing like the giant smoke plume from Friday. But the smoke map is looking pretty good right now. 

 

What do you mean by "the smoke map is looking pretty good right now"? When I mouse over Aug 21, 10am time window, smoke seems to be reaching out far north and west of Redmond...and Madras is just 40 miles north of Redmond. Am I reading the smoke map incorrectly?



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Posted 20 August 2017 - 12:59 PM

 

 


Does the sky there look hazy currently?

 

Mostly clear,  few wispy clouds. Nothing like the giant smoke plume from Friday. But the smoke map is looking pretty good right now. 

 

What do you mean by "the smoke map is looking pretty good right now"? When I mouse over Aug 21, 10am time window, smoke seems to be reaching out far north and west of Redmond...and Madras is just 40 miles north of Redmond. Am I reading the smoke map incorrectly?

 

Apologies for the confusion. I meant that it looks good for the current time, not eclipse time. 



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Posted 20 August 2017 - 01:07 PM

The area between Prineville and John Day looks very good,  and I'm hearing the smoke stops at Redmond so Madras should be good.  They were calling for west winds to clear out the smoke and push it against the mountains for tomorrow. 


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Posted 20 August 2017 - 01:26 PM

The area between Prineville and John Day looks very good,  and I'm hearing the smoke stops at Redmond so Madras should be good.  They were calling for west winds to clear out the smoke and push it against the mountains for tomorrow. 

Since the most smoke significant fire is on the East side of the Mountains, a West wind will blow it East. In addition, pyrocumulus "blowups" (like Friday) go so high that the mountains do not stop them. What it is doing today may or may not have any resemblance to what is is doing tomorrow.

 

The smoke forecast form NOAA is the only real resource.



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Posted 20 August 2017 - 02:30 PM

 

The area between Prineville and John Day looks very good,  and I'm hearing the smoke stops at Redmond so Madras should be good.  They were calling for west winds to clear out the smoke and push it against the mountains for tomorrow. 

Since the most smoke significant fire is on the East side of the Mountains, a West wind will blow it East. In addition, pyrocumulus "blowups" (like Friday) go so high that the mountains do not stop them. What it is doing today may or may not have any resemblance to what is is doing tomorrow.

 

The smoke forecast form NOAA is the only real resource.

 

Which forecast, vertical smoke integration or surface?

 

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 03:28 PM

In Madras right now. Smoke is not an issue at all. High cirrus clouds which are supposed to clear out overnight. No traffic issues either.

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 03:36 PM

I am in Portland right now. Weather forecast on one of the channels predicts "Hazy" for Madras and "clear" for Salem. I am having second thoughts about going to Madras even though I have a tent spot booked there for tonight. Salem is appearing to be a better option for clear viewing....just 8 seconds less of totality.



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Posted 20 August 2017 - 03:37 PM

I wouldn't hesitate to drive to Madras.

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 03:41 PM

In Madras right now. Smoke is not an issue at all. High cirrus clouds which are supposed to clear out overnight. No traffic issues either.

Thanks, Paguy123.

 

If both Madras and Salem have clear skies, we may end up in Salem as it is closer to Portland. Is there anything we will be missing out on as far as viewing experience is concerned if we chose Salem over Madras -  other than a shorter duration of 1'55"(Salem) vs 2'05" (Madras)? 



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Posted 20 August 2017 - 05:57 PM

 

In Madras right now. Smoke is not an issue at all. High cirrus clouds which are supposed to clear out overnight. No traffic issues either.

Thanks, Paguy123.

 

If both Madras and Salem have clear skies, we may end up in Salem as it is closer to Portland. Is there anything we will be missing out on as far as viewing experience is concerned if we chose Salem over Madras -  other than a shorter duration of 1'55"(Salem) vs 2'05" (Madras)? 

 

 



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Posted 20 August 2017 - 05:59 PM

I'd have to say no. 



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 06:10 AM

4am in Bend, clear skies, Adromeda is naked eye visible.   Wind is SE.


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 08:34 AM

0630 and Lake Billy Chinook is filling with smoke :(



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 08:41 AM

Prineville here. Some clouds/smoke low to horizon in the south and east. If this hold then Priniville is looking good. 



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 02:17 PM

Salem had absolutely clear blue skies. Excellent viewing experience. Hope it worked out well for all you folks. Thanks again for all your inputs to this discussion. Till next time....
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