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[Sharkboy]

Howdy fellow Spaced-out Rock Peeps,  

 

I found it a couple of weeks ago or so, back when I bumped into my 'Railroad Meteorites', but I haven't had time to go survey it to confirm it was a crater but I finally went this morning and walked the crater wall ridge all the way around, from the east side and going counter-clockwise, and before I got to the Crest, I bumped into a ridge on the backside and UPHILL, one I could walk out on, and as I was standing there looking at the OUTER PERPENDICULAR ridge, I looked back into the basin of the crater and the ridge wasn't there, but I looked closer and realized the basin's ridge wash pattern was identical to ALL of the ridges that butted-up again the BACKSIDE of the crater wall, and the crater looks 'off' on the western end because the Meteorite had to blast thru THREE ridges to form the Crater, so the MISSING blasted ridges reduced the Crater's size on the western end, which is one of many reasons its gone missed, to include a Gasoline Pipeline running along the eastern wall of the Crater and the #3 Rail of the BNSF Railroad 150 feet away.

 

34.320122, -117.485862

 

Copy-paste that into Google Earth Satellite and then click 3D and zoom-in to see the remnants of the ridges on the basin floor.  

 

Namaste,

Ribbit  

 

Ps: I'm still trying to relocate the Joe Dirt Meteorite in China (10 meter wide Terminal Velocity Meteorite that landed in ice), that I promised you guys in my Railroad Meteorite thread but its been 7 years since I last looked at it and now I've forgotten exactly where it is but I'll find it eventually and then I'll post its location, as well as posting the location of Toad Hole in Argentina, when I relocate it as well, and Toad Hole is where a Meteorite sliced thru glacial ice and impacted land under the ice and cratered-up, which formed an ice-domed cavern that I've called Toad Hole.

 

Ribbit-Rubbit-Ribbit  

[Sharkboy]

I forgot to mention that the southern wall was liquefied by an Earthquake on the San Andres Fault, which is less-than a mile away.

 

Also, the sandstone crater wall in the Crest area is angled backwards of all of the other sandstone slabs the San Andres popped-up in the past, to include SEVERAL examples just UPHILL from the Crater AND further away from the Fault.  

 

Namaste,

Ribbit  

Edited by Sharkboy, 04 September 2017 - 12:13 AM.

[Cajundaddy]

Interesting.  That is near the Mormon Rocks and the San Andreas fault line.  A lot of interesting geology that is 20 minutes from my house.  I could go have a look but I have no idea what I am looking for.

[Sharkboy]

Interesting.  That is near the Mormon Rocks and the San Andreas fault line.  A lot of interesting geology that is 20 minutes from my house.  I could go have a look but I have no idea what I am looking for.

Here's directions:

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/ce4f7d9ce2

 

Namaste,

Ribbit  

[Sharkboy]

I'm heading out there now, to go uphill from the Crater, so if you see anyone running around sticking their head in any gnarly crack they can find, that's probably me.  

 

Once you're on top of the Ridge at the first intersection of the Ridges on the backside of the Crater and you're comparing the 2 sides to one another, you won't have any problems seeing the missing 100 feet or so of altitude, of the Ridges that were once on the inside of the Basin but now they're scattered to Timbuktu, but it's beyond obvious its a Crater, especially once you're standing on the Ridge overlooking the Crater Basin and you've also compared the tilt of the sandstone crater wall to the rest around it, to see it's backwards of everything else around it, and you should also note the lack of rocks in the Basin and in the Walls of the Crater too, which dates it to early-on but the North-South Ridges had already formed by the time the Meteorite hit, so it wasn't too early.  

 

You won't believe it has gone missed this entire time but it used to be covered by brush and the recent fire scorched everything, so now it's much easier to see the dirt and rocks, so I've been taking advantage of it and if I saw what I think I saw yesterday from atop the Ridge on the Cajon Summit Rim, then I'll be back here in a few hours, reporting another Crater found, otherwise, I'll be back boasting about a few rocks I found yesterday.  

 

Have fun!  

 

Namaste,

Ribbit  

[Sharkboy]

Here are sum pics:

 

Backside Center Ridge and the photo is taken from the Crater Ridge:

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/dd325a5fda

 

As you can EASILY see, both Ridges are relatively the SAME height.

 

Basin Center Ridge from Crater Ridge:

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/dd317eebef

 

And once again, it isn't too hard to see that the OTHER HALF of the Ridge is MISSING about 100 feet in HEIGHT. Where did it go?

 

Here's the main Sandstone Slab:

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/dd3223e37b

 

Once again, it isn't that hard to see that the Sandstone is POINTING to the North, while ALL OTHERS are pointing to the South.

 

Basin Center Ridge and the photo is taken from the Basin:

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/dd32972b0d

 

And once again, it isn't that hard to see that the Ridge is MISSING MAJOR HEIGHT, relative to its counterpart on the Backside of the Crater Ridge.

 

Here are 2 photos of the inside of the South end of the Eastern Ridge:

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/dd31faf35f

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/dd3185b255

 

And once again, it isn't that hard to see that there aren't hardly ANY Rocks in the DIRT, which is NOT atypical of the Cajon Pass.

 

Therefrom, the ONLY way 4-to-5 Ridges can lose around 100 feet in HEIGHT and the Ridges BISECT the 270 Degree Circular Ridge, is a Meteorite impact.  

 

What else can it be?  

 

Namaste,

Ribbit  

Edited by Sharkboy, 04 September 2017 - 05:41 PM.

[Rocket Ron]

There's a lot of non-impact circular features on Earth, so you'd need to eliminate those

 

http://impactcraters.../pseudo-impacts

 

You also need identify features that are indicative of an impact event, such as a central peak and shatter cones. 

 

http://impactcraters..._identification

 

Good luck!

[Sharkboy]

There's a lot of non-impact circular features on Earth, so you'd need to eliminate those

 

http://impactcraters.../pseudo-impacts

 

You also need identify features that are indicative of an impact event, such as a central peak and shatter cones. 

 

http://impactcraters..._identification

 

Good luck!

And EXACTLY how many of those non-impact locations have MATCHING ridgeS (aka: PLURALITY), basin & backside, of the CIRCULAR ridge, and ALL of the basin ridges are MISSING about 100 feet of ALTITUDE, relative to THEIR counterpart-ridgeS (aka: PLURALITY) on the backside?

 

And what would a Crater look like, if it impacted in a MOUNTAIN RANGE FULL OF RIDGES? 

 

Answer: The ridges will reduce the crater size perpendicular of the ridges and the crater will be elongated parallel to the ridges, since the ridges will throw some of the momentum UPWARDS but the momentum will FULLY FLOW WITH the ridges UNABATED.

 

With that, the sources you cited are MISSING that information, concerning impact locations in mountainous ranges and their ELONGATED nature.

 

I'd recommend you look at the pictures I posted and carefully study the Meteorite Crater on Google Earth.  

 

Namaste,

Ribbit  

Edited by Sharkboy, 05 September 2017 - 09:19 PM.

[Sharkboy]

There's a lot of non-impact circular features on Earth, so you'd need to eliminate those

 

http://impactcraters.../pseudo-impacts

 

You also need identify features that are indicative of an impact event, such as a central peak and shatter cones. 

 

http://impactcraters..._identification

 

Good luck!

One more thing, your sources talked about the fake craters that show-up in Niger. Here's one in that Mountain Range spoken of, that's actually a Volcanic Crater:

 

18.851133, 9.001844

 

You'll see what appears to be Seismic Fault Lines running on both sides of the Crater.  

 

And here's another one nearby:

 

18.819349, 8.983286

 

And another:

 

18.485710, 8.914779

 

And another:

 

18.375933, 8.950110

 

And another:

 

18.205684, 9.000620

 

And another:

 

17.978414, 9.005923

 

And another:

 

17.975035, 8.799779

 

And another:

 

17.954120, 8.874463

 

And another:

 

17.837796, 8.722455

 

And another:

 

17.833074, 8.630018

 

And another:

 

17.838892, 8.632151

 

And another:

 

17.740748, 8.561165

 

And another:

 

17.726997, 8.563362

 

And another:

 

17.639891, 8.566583

 

There's about 2 dozen Volcanoes in the last area, within a hundred miles of the center one.

 

Are ALL of those Volcanic Craters known of?

 

Also, here's a crater in Niger that appears to be Meteorite sourced:

 

18.321489, 7.194115

 

Namaste,

Ribbit  

 

Ps: I found another Volcanic Crater (in the U.S.) that wasn't labeled on Google Earth:

 

34.653356, -116.389767

 

It's south of the Volcanic Crater at Pisgah:

 

34.653356, -116.389767

 

And here's another Volcanic Crater (in the U.S.) that isn't labeled on Google Earth:

 

35.361785, -117.432541

 

Pps: Here are what appears to be 2 Meteorite Craters in Chad and the first is huge (2 miles across) and has 3 volcanoes in the Basin:

 

20.970134, 16.575008

 

21.028089, 16.614675

 

And here are a few nearby Volcanoes:

 

20.943037, 16.509250

 

20.976528, 16.520280

 

21.010084, 16.546525

 

21.027277, 16.583041

 

21.100220, 16.570541

 

21.110382, 16.579028

 

21.128241, 16.567411

 

Ribbit-Rubbit-Ribbit  

Edited by Sharkboy, 05 September 2017 - 11:45 PM.

[Sharkboy]

Something I forgot to point-out is a shadow outline of the old blown-away ridge(s) will be still be visible, when blown-away by an impact, just like what happens with erased digital media; an image is still left behind that can be recovered.

 

Whereas when a Meteorite impacts a SERIES of MOUNTAIN RIDGES and 'blows' the ridges to smithereens, an IMAGE of the ridges will be able to be SEEN in the Crater Wall, where the ridges BISECTED it, just as was SHOWN in the pictures I provided, and the CIRCULAR Crater Ridge in-between the bisecting ridges will erode-away MUCH FASTER than at the bisecting ridges, which creates MULTIPLE PENTACLES on the Crater Wall, and the number of pentacles will be the SAME as the number of ridges blown-away.

 

Basin Center Ridge from Crater Ridge:

https://imgsafe.org/image/dd317eebef

 

Basin Center Ridge and the photo is taken from the Basin:

https://imgsafe.org/image/dd32972b0d

 

 

 

Namaste,

Ribbit  

[Sharkboy]

 

 

 

You won't believe it has gone missed this entire time but it used to be covered by brush and the recent fire scorched everything, so now it's much easier to see the dirt and rocks, so I've been taking advantage of it and if I saw what I think I saw yesterday from atop the Ridge on the Cajon Summit Rim, then I'll be back here in a few hours, reporting another Crater found, otherwise, I'll be back boasting about a few rocks I found yesterday.  

 

I don't have pictures of any of the Rocks I found but I did take pictures of an edible weed I found and I love to 'eat' my surrounding nature (vegetation ONLY):

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/0ca71ebcc9

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/0ca73b339b

 

Namaste,

Ribbit  

Edited by Sharkboy, 06 September 2017 - 11:35 PM.

[Sharkboy]

Here are BETTER pics of the ENTIRE Crater:

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/1d6d9ab9c0

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/1d6da87280

 

What's been missed by ALL, to include myself, is what's known as CONTAMINATION:

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/1e58114d89

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/1e5838085b

 

At some point in time and a LONG TIME AGO, a bulldozer gained access to the Crater and the missing tell was destroyed by the bulldozer, and there are 2 entrances to the Crater, one in the front by the drainage ditch and the other entrance is on the backside, up a backside ridge west of the Crest but that entrance has washed-out and is no longer usable, and when I've been in the basin in the past, I've looked for tire prints or tracks but I never found any but the contamination is SCATTERED all over the basin, from railroad hardware to chunks of concrete and rebar, so the missing tell is of NO CONSEQUENCE, since ALL other tells SUPERSEDE SUCH, and simply because the KNOWN TELLS out it as what it is, all by themselves but you all have apparently never seen a Crater such as the one I HAVE FOUND.

 

You people are truly SUMTHING else!   

 

Namaste,

Ribbit  

Edited by Sharkboy, 07 September 2017 - 08:23 PM.

[Sharkboy]

Here's a screenshot of the Crater on Google Earth Satellite and I've highlighted the ridges ATTACHED to the BACKSIDE of the Crater, to include the nearly MILE LONG RIDGE that butts-up against the CENTER & HIGHEST Crest/Pentacle OF the Crater and ALL ridges are UPHILL of the Crater, which DEFIES GRAVITY as well:

 

https://imgsafe.org/image/331e17ab89

 

The Ridges ATTACHED to the Crater ALL SHOW 700 MILLION YEARS of EROSION, which is known as SYMMETRY, whereas the ridges IN THE CRATER are LESS-THAN 100 Million Years OLD and that is what's known as a VIOLATION of TIME, and that Violation of KNOWN Science CANNOT BE IGNORED by LEGITIMATE SCIENCE!!!!!

 

Naysayer JERKS!

 

Ribbit 

Edited by Sharkboy, 08 September 2017 - 07:27 PM.

[Blind as an Eagle]

Quoting Sharkboy: "You won't believe it has gone missed this entire time but it used to be covered by brush and the recent fire scorched everything, so now it's much easier to see the dirt and rocks".

 

I have driven past it many times and did some trail bike riding along that very set of railroad tracks.

 

Do you have any info on the naming of this crater, or did you name it? Why Arroyo Toad?

 

Thanks, BAAE

[Sharkboy]

Quoting Sharkboy: "You won't believe it has gone missed this entire time but it used to be covered by brush and the recent fire scorched everything, so now it's much easier to see the dirt and rocks".

 

I have driven past it many times and did some trail bike riding along that very set of railroad tracks.

 

Do you have any info on the naming of this crater, or did you name it? Why Arroyo Toad?

 

Thanks, BAAE

I was the one that named it and the reason why I named it what I did is I go by the nickname of Toad but I've already named a Crater after myself and since there's an Arroyo Toad Nursery/Habitat 2 miles South of the Crater, I figured I'd keep it in the Family and name it after them.  

 

I'll be posting pics of the Rocks I found in the Crater, as well as what I believe is the Meteorite that formed it, as soon as I can get a better camera. Using a cellphone camera doesn't cut it, plus, I've got a ton of good Rocks from the Crater and from around the area that I want to post but the cellphone camera doesn't show the colors well and I've got several different varieties (colors) of Turquoise and their colors don't show-up correctly.  

 

Namaste,

Ribbit  

[Marvin Jenkins]

It has been nearly four years since your literally ground breaking discovery of an impact structure. You say have sample rocks from the crater and around the area which show different colours.

I understand the enthusiasm in finding something new, but keeping us waiting four years because your phone camera is not good enough is just prolonged torture.

 

Please put this pain behind us and show what you have. 
 

M

[ColoHank]

One more thing, your sources talked about the fake craters that show-up in Niger. Here's one in that Mountain Range spoken of, that's actually a Volcanic Crater:

 

18.851133, 9.001844

 

You'll see what appears to be Seismic Fault Lines running on both sides of the Crater.  

 

And here's another one nearby:

 

18.819349, 8.983286

 

And another:

 

18.485710, 8.914779

 

And another:

 

18.375933, 8.950110

 

And another:

 

18.205684, 9.000620

 

And another:

 

17.978414, 9.005923

 

And another:

 

17.975035, 8.799779

 

And another:

 

17.954120, 8.874463

 

And another:

 

17.837796, 8.722455

 

And another:

 

17.833074, 8.630018

 

And another:

 

17.838892, 8.632151

 

And another:

 

17.740748, 8.561165

 

And another:

 

17.726997, 8.563362

 

And another:

 

17.639891, 8.566583

 

There's about 2 dozen Volcanoes in the last area, within a hundred miles of the center one.

 

Are ALL of those Volcanic Craters known of?

 

Also, here's a crater in Niger that appears to be Meteorite sourced:

 

18.321489, 7.194115

 

Namaste,

Ribbit  

 

Ps: I found another Volcanic Crater (in the U.S.) that wasn't labeled on Google Earth:

 

34.653356, -116.389767

 

It's south of the Volcanic Crater at Pisgah:

 

34.653356, -116.389767

 

And here's another Volcanic Crater (in the U.S.) that isn't labeled on Google Earth:

 

35.361785, -117.432541

 

Pps: Here are what appears to be 2 Meteorite Craters in Chad and the first is huge (2 miles across) and has 3 volcanoes in the Basin:

 

20.970134, 16.575008

 

21.028089, 16.614675

 

And here are a few nearby Volcanoes:

 

20.943037, 16.509250

 

20.976528, 16.520280

 

21.010084, 16.546525

 

21.027277, 16.583041

 

21.100220, 16.570541

 

21.110382, 16.579028

 

21.128241, 16.567411

 

Ribbit-Rubbit-Ribbit  

Ever consider using UTMs instead of lat/long?  UTMs are more intuitive and convert directly to arial measure (meters).

[BFaucett]

Sharkboy is no longer listed as a member so I doubt he'll be back. Try clicking on his member name. 
 
 

 
 
See how his member name isn't underlined? There's no underlying link to a member profile. He's been removed from the system. 
 
 

 
 
Bob F.

Edited by BFaucett, 26 June 2021 - 01:09 AM.

[Glassthrower]

It's not an impact crater. It was never more than wishful thinking and confirmation bias at work.

[M Ren]

M Ren

 

Hello, I was searching for info on a meteorite I saw crash near the top of the El Cahon Pass during the 1990s. I wish I remembered the date but could possibly get close to it by talking to family members. Myself and 3 family members were headed up the El Cahon Pass to a quail hunting trip in Needles. Near the top of the pass a large bright green meteorite with a glowing tail passed over the pass from left to right so I assume North to South if the pass heads East. I was driving the rv and my family was in the back. The meteorite seemed low and as it went over the mountain ridge line to the South it went out of view but almost immediately followed by two or three huge flickers of bright green light, I think it was two. The flickers were on the back side of the ridge line and back light illuminated the ridge. Nobody in my family saw it and kind of made fun of me but when we returned home to the San Diego area, my Mother informed us it was on the news and the news people were looking for the meteor impact near the EL Cahon Pass. All i remember is it was near the top of the pass and a short time after seeing it we were on top and I saw that cafe to the right, Summit Cafe maybe, something like that. Any info on this incident would be greatly appreciated. Havnt found anything looking on Google Earth.