Jump to content

  •  

CNers have asked about a donation box for Cloudy Nights over the years, so here you go. Donation is not required by any means, so please enjoy your stay.

Photo

Astro-Physics 10" Mak-Cass

  • Please log in to reply
228 replies to this topic

#176 rfic1

rfic1

    Viking 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 568
  • Joined: 25 Oct 2005

Posted 29 December 2018 - 11:40 AM

I guess it’s clear that AP will be completing  some of the new run 10” Mak’s and notification to individuals on the list have been taking place. I don’t recall  AP mentioning the notification on the web site.

Hopefully they will post a notification once all scope’s  from this production run have been accounted for. 

Just eliminates the ongoing wondering if you will be notified. 



#177 Tamiji Homma

Tamiji Homma

    Skylab

  • *****
  • Posts: 4099
  • Joined: 24 Feb 2007
  • Loc: California, USA

Posted 29 December 2018 - 12:10 PM

 

The T-90 is only 22" with the legs fully retracted while both the Panther pier and the T-110 are 30".

 

Hi John,

 

T-90 mount top is too small to put TTS-160 mount head on it and it also becomes too top heavy configuration.

I wouldn't recommend it.

 

I'd recommend AP Eagle Pier instead.

 

The TTS-160 mount head height is about 54".

 

large.jpg

 

Tammy



#178 rfic1

rfic1

    Viking 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 568
  • Joined: 25 Oct 2005

Posted 29 December 2018 - 01:08 PM

Tamiji,

As best I can see on the panther web site it looks like the saddle plate secures the dovetail plate by two screws. Is there no clamp style dovetail saddle to secure the plate? 



#179 Tamiji Homma

Tamiji Homma

    Skylab

  • *****
  • Posts: 4099
  • Joined: 24 Feb 2007
  • Loc: California, USA

Posted 29 December 2018 - 03:59 PM

Tamiji,

As best I can see on the panther web site it looks like the saddle plate secures the dovetail plate by two screws. Is there no clamp style dovetail saddle to secure the plate? 

 

Here is closeup photo of TTS-160 top saddle.  The heaviest scope that I put on TTS-160 is about 50lb, TEC-140ED

binoscope, Vixen finder, and  a pair of Docter UWA 12.5.  I find the Losmandy D-saddle secures dovetail plate for the 50lb very well.

 

large.jpg

 

large.jpg

 

Tammy



#180 rfic1

rfic1

    Viking 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 568
  • Joined: 25 Oct 2005

Posted 29 December 2018 - 04:22 PM

Certainly overall seems like a nice mount. One that I certainly am considering , but you would think a 9K mount would have a little better saddle. Just seems it can be improved upon. 

Thanks for going out of your way to post the images.


Edited by rfic1, 29 December 2018 - 09:22 PM.


#181 sink45ny

sink45ny

    Surveyor 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 1521
  • Joined: 08 May 2014
  • Loc: Pennsyltucky

Posted 29 December 2018 - 04:29 PM

Maybe a moderator should change the title of the thread to TTS-160 mount head.


  • Don W, Heywood and salico like this

#182 Gleason

Gleason

    Explorer 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 96
  • Joined: 03 Jan 2013

Posted 31 December 2018 - 11:24 PM

Certainly overall seems like a nice mount. One that I certainly am considering , but you would think a 9K mount would have a little better saddle. Just seems it can be improved upon. 

Thanks for going out of your way to post the images.

Yes, as an expensive mount it would seem lacking a better saddle.  The design is perhaps in line with the TTS simplicity and portability proposition.  In the case of the very expensive and rare Mak 10, you could attach an Astro Physics saddle plate to a Losmandy D style plate and securely fix the combined assembly into the TTS saddle. Using the AP saddle as the primary carrier.  This may seem redundant, but it might add the "perception" of a more secure saddle.   Either way, I would certainly add an "Oh Jesus" stop on the end of the dovetail.    BTW, I have not heard or read that the TSS-160 mount is going up in price on the 1st, but if it is, that is really pressing it's worth and value.  I did have confirmation from Roland, that the Mak 10 will carry on the Mach 1 and there are pictures of it in this thread. 

 

 

cheers, 

 

jg



#183 Gleason

Gleason

    Explorer 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 96
  • Joined: 03 Jan 2013

Posted 31 December 2018 - 11:26 PM

Here is closeup photo of TTS-160 top saddle.  The heaviest scope that I put on TTS-160 is about 50lb, TEC-140ED

binoscope, Vixen finder, and  a pair of Docter UWA 12.5.  I find the Losmandy D-saddle secures dovetail plate for the 50lb very well.

 

 

 

 

 

Tammy

 

Is that your binoscope on the TSS=160?  Top Shelf! 

 

jg



#184 salico

salico

    Viking 1

  • -----
  • Posts: 503
  • Joined: 12 Jul 2016
  • Loc: Germany

Posted 01 January 2019 - 11:37 AM

I want scope porn, no mount pornflowerred.gif


  • 3 i Guy likes this

#185 Gleason

Gleason

    Explorer 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 96
  • Joined: 03 Jan 2013

Posted 01 January 2019 - 03:38 PM

I want scope porn, no mount pornflowerred.gif

When the Mak 10's start delivering (soon), there will be plenty of porn for you.  


  • salico likes this

#186 John Vogt

John Vogt

    Vostok 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 171
  • Joined: 26 Oct 2005

Posted 01 January 2019 - 05:09 PM

I want scope porn, no mount pornflowerred.gif

The only scope porn you'll get for now is this:

 

IMG_1579.jpg

 

There's not much else to show at the moment so for now we settle for some mounting option discussions

and a little bit of mount porn.

Patience Grasshopper. smile.gif I'm sure the scope pix will pour in once AP starts to deliver.

 

CS,

John


Edited by John Vogt, 01 January 2019 - 05:11 PM.

  • salico likes this

#187 ZX12

ZX12

    Ranger 4

  • *****
  • Posts: 341
  • Joined: 29 Dec 2005
  • Loc: Rhode Island

Posted 01 January 2019 - 06:21 PM

Here are a couple close ups of the AP Mak from NEAF 2017.

 

Mike 

Attached Thumbnails

  • mak2.jpg
  • mak.jpg

  • Paul Morow, Tyson M and salico like this

#188 Tyson M

Tyson M

    Mercury-Atlas

  • *****
  • Posts: 2735
  • Joined: 22 Jan 2015
  • Loc: 53 degrees North

Posted 01 January 2019 - 07:56 PM

Here are a couple close ups of the AP Mak from NEAF 2017.

 

Mike 

Now THAT is truly beautiful!

 

I hope I get the opportunity some day to buy this scope. 



#189 sink45ny

sink45ny

    Surveyor 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 1521
  • Joined: 08 May 2014
  • Loc: Pennsyltucky

Posted 01 January 2019 - 08:01 PM

I would have to sell my AP900 and buy an AP1100 to put it on. It's too nice for an AP900.



#190 WadeH237

WadeH237

    Soyuz

  • *****
  • Posts: 3854
  • Joined: 24 Feb 2007
  • Loc: Snohomish, WA

Posted 01 January 2019 - 08:34 PM

I would have to sell my AP900 and buy an AP1100 to put it on. It's too nice for an AP900.

If you have the opportunity and means to buy one of these scopes, the mount upgrade would be an incremental cost increase.

 

That said, I believe that an AP900 would carry it just fine - and the scope would not care.


  • Paul G, 3 i Guy, Paul Morow and 2 others like this

#191 Paul Hyndman

Paul Hyndman

    Apollo

  • -----
  • Posts: 1063
  • Joined: 13 Jul 2004
  • Loc: Connecticut Shoreline USA

Posted 01 January 2019 - 11:26 PM

I want scope porn, no mount pornflowerred.gif

Here you go, from 2017 NEAF. BTW, that's a MACH1 GTO it's riding on... WooHoo, no need to drag out the 900!

Attached Thumbnails

  • MCT1 (2017_05_16 22_39_05 UTC).jpg
  • MCT2 (2017_05_16 22_39_05 UTC).jpg
  • MCT3 (2017_05_16 22_39_05 UTC).jpg

  • Paul G, Jeff B, psandelle and 4 others like this

#192 Jeff B

Jeff B

    Fly Me to the Moon

  • *****
  • Posts: 5569
  • Joined: 30 Dec 2006

Posted 02 January 2019 - 02:56 PM

With 42 pounds of counterweights, smooshed right up against the Dec housing.  

 

Nice!



#193 JohnH

JohnH

    Mercury-Atlas

  • ****-
  • Posts: 2892
  • Joined: 04 Oct 2005
  • Loc: Squamish BC Moved!!!!!

Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:39 PM

Here are a couple close ups of the AP Mak from NEAF 2017.

 

Mike 

He doesnt't seem to believe in multicoating the optics



#194 John Vogt

John Vogt

    Vostok 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 171
  • Joined: 26 Oct 2005

Posted 03 January 2019 - 07:37 AM

He doesnt't seem to believe in multicoating the optics

Well, that's not really true, at least according to the specifications listed on the blurb that I received (posted on pg.5 of this thread):

 

"Multi-layer, broadband, overall transmission greater than 99% in peak visual wavelengths"

 

Maybe the prototype shown in the pics. from NEAF didn't have the Broad Band AR coating applied to the meniscus.


  • sink45ny likes this

#195 ZX12

ZX12

    Ranger 4

  • *****
  • Posts: 341
  • Joined: 29 Dec 2005
  • Loc: Rhode Island

Posted 03 January 2019 - 03:00 PM

Roland did say the meniscus was not coated on the prototype.

 

Mike



#196 Gleason

Gleason

    Explorer 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 96
  • Joined: 03 Jan 2013

Posted 05 January 2019 - 04:11 PM

That Mach 1,  Mak 10 combination looks perfect. Although I'm sure the 1100 would be superior.  Can't wait to see the finished product with dew shield.  One could expect the same kind of coatings that were used on the AP 175 and others. 



#197 Paul G

Paul G

    Cosmos

  • *****
  • Posts: 8320
  • Joined: 08 May 2003
  • Loc: Freedonia

Posted 05 January 2019 - 06:27 PM

That Mach 1,  Mak 10 combination looks perfect. Although I'm sure the 1100 would be superior.  Can't wait to see the finished product with dew shield.  One could expect the same kind of coatings that were used on the AP 175 and others. 

The original Mak 10 was the first with the current state of the art coatings used on all the subsequent scopes. The secondary looks like it is floating in mid air.


  • Gleason likes this

#198 George9

George9

    Apollo

  • *****
  • Posts: 1421
  • Joined: 11 Dec 2004

Posted 06 January 2019 - 11:45 AM

Paul H, you might consider making the Mak into a world-class solar scope. One of Valery’s dual band ERF’s, a SolarSpectrum 0.3A H-alpha, and a Lunt 35mm etalon as a double stack. Maybe an AiryLabs telecentric or just a PowerMate. A Lunt CaK for calcium.

I was looking around for a 10-12” classic Cassegrain, but if I had gone on the 1999 Mak list, I might have done this with it. Double check performance at 393nm first though.

George

#199 Paul Hyndman

Paul Hyndman

    Apollo

  • -----
  • Posts: 1063
  • Joined: 13 Jul 2004
  • Loc: Connecticut Shoreline USA

Posted 06 January 2019 - 01:11 PM

Paul H, you might consider making the Mak into a world-class solar scope. One of Valery’s dual band ERF’s, a SolarSpectrum 0.3A H-alpha, and a Lunt 35mm etalon as a double stack. Maybe an AiryLabs telecentric or just a PowerMate. A Lunt CaK for calcium.

I was looking around for a 10-12” classic Cassegrain, but if I had gone on the 1999 Mak list, I might have done this with it. Double check performance at 393nm first though.

George

Hmmm...  that's a thought George but, having stopped the solar imaging shtick, I'm more than satisfied with the bino DS90/Traveler performance. See you at NEAF SSP?


  • SkyRanger likes this

#200 George9

George9

    Apollo

  • *****
  • Posts: 1421
  • Joined: 11 Dec 2004

Posted 06 January 2019 - 06:11 PM

Should be. Thanks for the reminder for my calendar.

At least do white light with the Mak. Baader film in front. Best view I have ever had in white light is on my 10” Zambuto Newtonian at full aperture. Won’t take a binoviewer but the AP 10” Mak would. Goes beyond zebra penumbra. The umbra shows detail like salt and pepper and light bridges. Not many spots for a while but one is there right now with a flare today apparently. Baader film would be a small investment.

George


CNers have asked about a donation box for Cloudy Nights over the years, so here you go. Donation is not required by any means, so please enjoy your stay.


Recent Topics






Cloudy Nights LLC
Cloudy Nights Sponsor: Astronomics