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#1 badback

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:07 PM

In reference to Tom Kiehl's post #4465 at: fhttps://www.cloudyni...79#entry8165319

 

It is a small telescope world after all.

I just got in from taking pictures of a "MYSTERY" scope I picked up last Saturday when I

saw the post mentioned above. For a number of really cool reasons I will call this rare(?)

beauty "BABY BLUE." From the one picture available to me, prior to buying it , I had

originally thought it would be an ATM  "modified" Edmund Palomar Jr.  It is definitely not.

I talked the owner down from 7500 to 6000. Pennies that is!!!. Got ya'. lol.gif  I would have had

no Idea what this was except for a truly awesome, large oval tag that is screwed onto the pier.

It proudly screams out, not only what it is, but also who manufactured it. Heck, it even has

an etched in picture of itself on the tag also. Even with that identifying tag I can find nothing

at all on this...

                           Beautiful Blue "Mystery" Scope.

                              

                                 It's "FUN TIME" again Scope Detectives.                                                

                                              Get ta' guessing???

 

BABY BLUE 001.jpg


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:17 PM

Your attachment  isn't working.


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:30 PM

PICTURES MARV >>>>>>>> PLEASE


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:37 PM

Pics, Pics, Pics!!!

 

BABY BLUE 002.jpg

 

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:38 PM

That's a ESCO OTA  on a MODIFIED  Edmunds Mount  ..... The ota is two piece  tube  one tube fits inside the other to adjust focal length


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:42 PM

Tom beat me to it, but the Edmunds mount is easy.  


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:44 PM

Pics, Pics, Pics!!!

More later...Pizza calls.

 

BABY BLUE 004.jpg

 

BABY BLUE 005.jpg

 

 


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:49 PM

Nice find and a good buy!

 

You should fix that wiring ASAP though - looks like a short waiting to happen.


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:53 PM

Nice find and a good buy!

 

You should fix that wiring ASAP though - looks like a short waiting to happen.

He'll be ok it's got a ground wire lol.gif 


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:47 PM

Still a mystery to me! What's an "ESCO OTA" with a "two piece tube one tube fits inside the other to adjust focal length?" Unless it has optional mirrors, why would one want to be able to adjust the focal length?

Pretty, whatever it is. Is the baby blue original, or was it repainted? Certainly a fine foil to Celestron orange!
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 11:10 PM

That's not like any Edmund mount I've ever seen, it's close though.

What ever it is, it's fantastically  sweet!

 

Robert 


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 12:47 AM

Nice find and a good buy!

 

You should fix that wiring ASAP though - looks like a short waiting to happen.

Can't argue with that. Ya' should'a seen it before.  Actually that "curly cord" is far to

HEAVY for what's needed, so I'm pretty darn sure that it probably isn't "original?"

So unless another scope shows up, who knows? Sure looks good though IMO. As found

it was taped poorly, badly assembled and falling apart. Anyways, I plugged it in, as found,

and the electric "mo-mo" was a "no-go-mo-mo." bawling.gif

 

So...upon disassembly and inspection of the wiring mess I found that one of the wires was

broken beneath the tape. The cause of the break was most likely due to  the heavy cord

just dangling and swinging in the air without any support at all.

 

I "very temporarily" wired it up (with support natch) just to see if if that was the problem?

Sure enough was! Now she's a sweet humming "go-go-mo-mo." I'll see if it tracks well

in the next few nights. I suspect that it will? fingerscrossed.gif


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 12:49 AM

 

Nice find and a good buy!

 

You should fix that wiring ASAP though - looks like a short waiting to happen.

He'll be ok it's got a ground wire lol.gif

 

Are you sure? Just like my brain that ground wire looks compromised? lol.gif


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 02:20 AM

Cali must the center of the cool telescopes, this one is awesome......no more pics please, Im gonna short out my keyboard.....drooling.

lol

 

I find nothing even remotely this cool in north east Ohio.



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Posted 21 October 2017 - 02:38 AM

That's a ESCO OTA  on a MODIFIED  Edmunds Mount  ..... The ota is two piece  tube  one tube fits inside the other to adjust focal length

                                   No, No No to ESCO.

    The OTA is just one piece. That "tube clamp", directly in front of the

       cradle, is there to keep the OTA "reasonably balanced" and to

            prevent it  from sliding down to the ground, or thereabouts.                       

               It all works very well actually considering the"smallish"

                 Velcro straps holding the very light and very similar

                    "Edmund's Palomar Jr. LIKE"  OTA  in place.

                      In function, it can be compared to many of the

                          Cave Astrola models with rotating rings.

                             Think of it as sort of a "Poor Boy",

                                 easy to rotate OTA assembly.

                                        Me likey.waytogo.gif

 

                           "A MODIFIED  Edmunds Mount"

             Hmmm, possibly...probably??? shrug.gif  It  certainly "looks"

               very similar to my Palomar Jr.  But... there are so many

                 differences. Such as: The legs are not the same and

                    are held on with two wingnuts each, and virtually

                       the entire mount, pier, and legs are made of

                            ALUMINUM. That's minus most of the

                               fasteners  of course. There are also

                                       some design differences.

                                            My  Palomar Jr. is

                                             mostly made of

                                                  STEEL.

 

                        If ya' got similar Edmund aluminum

                           mount pics, "Enlighten" me? smile.gif 


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 03:07 AM

Still a mystery to me! What's an "ESCO OTA" with a "two piece tube one tube fits inside the other to adjust focal length?" Unless it has optional mirrors, why would one want to be able to adjust the focal length?

Pretty, whatever it is. Is the baby blue original, or was it repainted? Certainly a fine foil to Celestron orange!

Well..the man I got this from said he inherited it from his dad.

He mentioned that it hadn't been out of the house in 50 years

or so. Personally I think the paint looks original. Why? Because

all the other parts (except the modified power cord) look rather

newish and are all well preserved. If it was repainted they sure

did a great job on it IMO. waytogo.gif



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Posted 21 October 2017 - 03:41 AM

That's not like any Edmund mount I've ever seen, it's close though.

What ever it is, it's fantastically  sweet!

 

Robert 

That's not like any Edmund mount I've ever seen, it's close though."

 

My feelings exactly. My guess is that a company (soon to be revealed)

other than Edmunds redesigned/ upgraded many parts from the Palomar Jr.

IMO what they produced is a more aesthetically beautiful, obviously lighter

and superior scope in many ways. The Name tag on the pier is a fantastic,

work of art bonus that every scope maker should have emulated.bawling.gif



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Posted 21 October 2017 - 03:54 AM

Pics, Pics, Pics!!!

 

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 04:38 AM

Your attachment  isn't working.

So what's new? Every personal attachment I

ever made left me because I wasn't working.

It eventually drove me to excessive scoping.

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 07:32 AM

Very nice, and the Mopar blue paint job is to die for! We need to find you a blue Super Bird to match.


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 08:55 AM

I'll second that! Badback's posts are so much fun to read that, if anyone deserved a baby blue Superbird, it's him! Question is, where would we find one worthy of this thread, meaning made in all-aluminum?

I love the idea of that scope in all-aluminum. It's big enough to see a lot of sky, yet in grab-and-go weight!
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:20 AM

Congrats on the new scope. No blues with that one!


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 07:42 PM

So...why did I name this telescope "BABY BLUE ?"

 

Well for one thing it's blue in color. Another reason is actionhac (Robert) had

an old blue, square, 17.5" Coulter he's called "Bluey" in a few posts and has

voiced "regrets that she is gone." https://www.cloudyni...ey#entry8124682

Post 1742. So it makes sense ya' know? Robert had "BIG BLUE" and what

the heck, I now had a smaller reflector telescope I could call "BABY BLUE."
That makes sense right? Well it might make even more sense if I just

painted one of my red  8" round, Coulter Compacts blue. Or better yet

paint one of my even "older" square, brown Coulter's blue.

 

               "Don't it make your BROWN optics BLUE?" rofl2.gif

 

Well the reason I call it BABY BLUE is far cooler.

 

                 TRUE STORY

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II was 18 back in 1968. My girlfriend Pam and I were Hippies. We did

all the love-ins in San Diego  etc, etc. You know "normal" Hippie stuff.

Pam had no Sisters and one Brother. She gave birth to our Daughter

on July 14 1969. Her Brother drowned the very next day on his 16th

birthday. The next thing I remember was calling Pam after the funeral

and her Mother telling me that the baby was given up for adoption and

that her Daughter never wanted to see me again. .

 

"...that was years ago, no word since, not even a postcard. I do miss her"   

                   

Life goes on

 

Last year my youngest Daughter (40) asked me what I wanted for

Christmas. I said, hey I know you've been been trying to locate your

"missing" Sister for a long time so get on it kid cuz' I'm getting old

and I could croak out on all of ya' at anytime..............

Well...darn if she didn't actually locate her. DNA tests, blah, blah, blah,

and the "missing one" came all the way from Florida to meet her Mother

(who had another daughter), her three "never knew she had sisters",

yours truly and a slew of Nephews and Nieces. She had been adopted

by great parents who had three sons and they wanted a Daughter.

I'm thinking WOW, my new found Daughter really hit the "Genetic Lotto."

Everything worked out amazingly well for everyone. Showing her Saturn

through a telescope for the first time was just one of very many

awesome experiences we all have shared since meeting her.

 

I saw her only once when she was born and then again exactly 48 years

later on her 48th birthday. By the way her biological mother's middle

name is Jean. The first name on our daughters birth certificate is "BLUE."

WE would have called her Blue Jean. Hippies, what ya' gonna do?      

 

    I contact her often and always address her as "BABY BLUE."    

 

                                  AND NOW YOU KNOW.                


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 08:56 PM

Pics, Pics, Pics!!!

 

BABY BLUE 010.jpg

 

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 08:58 PM

Pics, Pics, Pics!!!

 

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