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#26 Cotts

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 11:51 PM

Are you planning for a new mirror Dave?

I'm building a 12.5" Serrurier Truss Newt to run on an AP 1200. The current plan is to use my Lockwood mirror in this new scope and move it to the Dob for star parties and outings...  I may get a second mirror to use in the EQ Newt and leave the Lockwood in the Dob if I get tired of the back and forth....  Or not.  I will never try to use the two scopes at the same time (assuming I do get a second mirror...) so I'm just testing the waters.....   I'm trying to get price quotes from as many makers as I can.  

 

I already have a quotes for $2500 and $1300, both from 'premium' makers.........(!)

 

I will compile a full list of the makers mentioned in this thread, without getting into the good/mediocre thing, and post it in this thread in a couple of days.

 

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 09:46 AM

The mirrormakers, in order of how they appeared in the thread...

 

Lockwood http://loptics.com

Zambuto http://zambutomirrors.com

Ostahowski https://www.ostahowskioptics.com

OMI http://www.opticalmechanics.com

Discovery http://www.discovery...com/optics.html

Pegasus https://pegasusoptics.com

Lightholder http://www.lightholderoptics.com

Mark Harry https://www.cloudyni...d-harry-optics/  no apparent website...

Mark Cowan http://www.veritasoptics.com

Swayze  http://www.swayzeoptical.com

Waite http://www.waiteresearch.com

Mirrorsphere  http://www.mirro-sphere.com  France

Steve Dodds = Nova http://www.nova-optical.com/about.htm

Hubble Optics http://www.hubbleoptics.com

Normand Fullum  http://www.normandfu...lescope.com/en/

Galaxy  http://www.galaxyoptics.com

Steve Kennedy  http://www.kennedy-optics.com

Orion UK http://www.orionoptics.co.uk  in England, of course....

Sky Observing http://skyobserving.ca

Spooner  http://www.mikespoon...ike_spooner.htm

John Nichol https://nicholoptical.co.uk  in the UK....

Zen Optical http://lnx.costruzio...zen.com/joomla/  In Italy..

Sky Optical https://skyvision.fr...optics/?lang=en

Ed Jones https://opticaleds.com/about/

Mel Bartels  http://www.bbastrodesigns.com
Oldham  https://www.oldhamoptical.com   in the UK
Newport Glass  http://www.newportglass.com
Guan Sheng Optical  http://www.gs-telescope.com  in Taiwan
Suzhou Synta Corp ---can't find website---  seriously, where is their website? Do they take individual orders?
Dreamscope http://www.dreamscopes.com
OWL Labs  http://www.opticwavelabs.com  "temporarily closed for a move to new quarters..."

 

Any more?

 

Caveat Emptor:  No information about the quality of work, business practices or what-have-you is implied about any of the above mirror makers.  You must exercise your own due diligence when entering into any commercial transaction...

 

Dave


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#28 MikeTahtib

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 11:35 AM

Is Steve Swayze turning out mirrors reliably now?  I was looking for someone to refigure my mirror, and there were a number of posts in the archives indicating it took years to get their mirrors form him, some people were taking him to court.  I hate to say bad things if he has gotten himself organized, but if he is still struggling, people should know that too.



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Posted 07 January 2018 - 02:30 PM

I'd just consider this a list of people who make mirrors, it's up to the potential purchaser to do their due diligence.

 

One of the makers mentioned doesn't seem to actually produce mirrors, just takes deposits according to numerous reports here.

 

Another one the list seems to have quite a few happy customers, but every time I've seen one of their mirrors tested it's been dismal.  I just read a report yesterday that said after taking a look at the mirror under test they didn't even bother to go further and compute numbers and that's only one of many such reports, yet in a current thread here folks are reporting how much they love their scopes. (?)  

 

Like Danny, I have some mirrors from a small Chinese company and I'm very happy with the primaries I've received from them, but their secondaries all seem to be junk.

 

I don't know, it's all second hand.  In the end, I spent a few more bucks and went with one of the few makers that no one has ever had a bad word about, at least that I've ever seen.  It's taken a year, but it will be ready in a week or two and I have no concerns at all about the quality.

 

Anyone thinking about investing in a premium mirror needs to spend some serious time researching  and making up their own mind.  With then information available today to everyone there's no need to make a serious mistake.



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Posted 07 January 2018 - 03:07 PM

A little OT sorry, Dobstuff also does EQ mounted reflectors. Just to list another option since this is what Dave has planned
http://dobstuff.blog...nch-f4.html?m=1

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 03:32 PM

I was wondering about R.F. Royce, was he missed, or is it true that his is no longer doing mirrors?



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Posted 07 January 2018 - 03:34 PM

I was wondering about R.F. Royce, was he missed, or is it true that his is no longer doing mirrors?

Pretty sure he's no longer making mirrors.



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Posted 07 January 2018 - 05:49 PM

I've always found Swayze responsive to emails and phone calls. I've had numerous mirrors tested and refigured by Steve without any problems at all.

 

Another vendor, Nova Optical System, is very responsive. Testing and refiguring is very "affordable" -- and his turn-around time is very fast.

 

Both of these vendors will test honestly -- and will not call for a "refigure" if it isn't warranted.

 

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 06:29 PM

Still working and not retired?

 

The mirrormakers, in order of how they appeared in the thread...

 

Lockwood  http://loptics.com/a.../starshape.html

Zambuto http://zambutomirrors.com

Ostahowski https://www.ostahowskioptics.com

OMI http://www.opticalmechanics.com

Discovery http://www.discovery...com/optics.html

Pegasus https://pegasusoptics.com

Lightholder http://www.lightholderoptics.com

Mark Harry https://www.cloudyni...d-harry-optics/  no apparent website...

Mark Cowan http://www.veritasop...sopts/order.htm  not taking individual orders at this time...

Swayze  http://www.swayzeoptical.com

Waite http://www.waiteresearch.com

Mirrorsphere  http://www.mirro-sphere.com  France

Steve Dodds = Nova http://www.nova-optical.com/about.htm

Hubble Optics http://www.hubbleoptics.com

Normand Fullum  http://www.normandfu...lescope.com/en/

Galaxy  http://www.galaxyoptics.com

Steve Kennedy  http://www.kennedy-optics.com

Orion UK http://www.orionoptics.co.uk  in England, of course....

Jens Jacobsen ---can't find a website---

Sky Observing ---can't find website---

Spooner  http://www.mikespoon...ike_spooner.htm

John Nichol https://nicholoptical.co.uk  in the UK....

 

Any more?

 

Dave

Yeah, if talking newtonian mirrors only:

Bob Royce

Mel Bartels

Oldham

Suchting (SDM)

Newport Glass

Guan Sheng Optical

Suzhou Synta Corp

Dreamscope

OWL Labs


Edited by Starman1, 07 January 2018 - 06:30 PM.


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Posted 07 January 2018 - 06:32 PM

Mel doesn't make mirrors commercially, although he certainly could.  :shrug:



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Posted 07 January 2018 - 06:33 PM

I also heard Steve Dodds retired (NOVA)



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Posted 07 January 2018 - 06:39 PM

Nowadays do most of these mirror makers offer the thinner quartz substrates?

 

Steve



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Posted 07 January 2018 - 07:22 PM

Nowadays do most of these mirror makers offer the thinner quartz substrates?

 

Steve

I know Mike Lockwood does.



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Posted 07 January 2018 - 07:29 PM

Haven't heard if Steve is retired right now from NOVA.  I'll email him as he just lives down the road and has done work for me in the past. Hope not. Chuck Hards may know also. 



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Posted 07 January 2018 - 08:25 PM

From a brief conservation with Mr Royce last year, I got the same impression. 

 

I was wondering about R.F. Royce, was he missed, or is it true that his is no longer doing mirrors?

Pretty sure he's no longer making mirrors.

 

 


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Posted 07 January 2018 - 09:52 PM

Not sure if Dan Joyce will still make you a mirror these days, too... 



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Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:02 PM

The mirrormakers, in order of how they appeared in the thread...

 

Lockwood http://loptics.com

Zambuto http://zambutomirrors.com

Ostahowski https://www.ostahowskioptics.com

OMI http://www.opticalmechanics.com

Discovery http://www.discovery...com/optics.html

Pegasus https://pegasusoptics.com

Lightholder http://www.lightholderoptics.com

Mark Harry https://www.cloudyni...d-harry-optics/  no apparent website...

Mark Cowan http://www.veritasop...sopts/order.htm  not taking individual orders at this time...

Swayze  http://www.swayzeoptical.com

Waite http://www.waiteresearch.com

Mirrorsphere  http://www.mirro-sphere.com  France

Steve Dodds = Nova http://www.nova-optical.com/about.htm

Hubble Optics http://www.hubbleoptics.com

Normand Fullum  http://www.normandfu...lescope.com/en/

Galaxy  http://www.galaxyoptics.com

Steve Kennedy  http://www.kennedy-optics.com

Orion UK http://www.orionoptics.co.uk  in England, of course....

Jens Jacobsen ---can't find a website---

Sky Observing ---can't find website---

Spooner  http://www.mikespoon...ike_spooner.htm

John Nichol https://nicholoptical.co.uk  in the UK....

 

Any more?

 

Dave

Dave,

The Sky Observing web site is: http://skyobserving....and-telescopes/ . The owner of that new, Toronto based company is a gentleman by the name of Zoran Stojcevski. On his website he says he has been an amateur astronomer for 37 years but has been making mirrors and telescopes for only 4 years. His mirrors, from 20 to 40 inch, are aluminized by Normand Fullum. Norm told me that they looked smooth and well made but I don’t know to what extent he tested them. I would be cautious until we see more test reports by experienced obsevers testing these scopes, but the prices are really interesting and there is one report of a satisfied buyer.



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Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:17 PM

 

that they looked smooth and well made 

At those larger sizes that’s saying something



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Posted 07 January 2018 - 11:06 PM

 

The mirrormakers, in order of how they appeared in the thread...

 

Lockwood http://loptics.com

Zambuto http://zambutomirrors.com

Ostahowski https://www.ostahowskioptics.com

OMI http://www.opticalmechanics.com

Discovery http://www.discovery...com/optics.html

Pegasus https://pegasusoptics.com

Lightholder http://www.lightholderoptics.com

Mark Harry https://www.cloudyni...d-harry-optics/  no apparent website...

Mark Cowan http://www.veritasop...sopts/order.htm  not taking individual orders at this time...

Swayze  http://www.swayzeoptical.com

Waite http://www.waiteresearch.com

Mirrorsphere  http://www.mirro-sphere.com  France

Steve Dodds = Nova http://www.nova-optical.com/about.htm

Hubble Optics http://www.hubbleoptics.com

Normand Fullum  http://www.normandfu...lescope.com/en/

Galaxy  http://www.galaxyoptics.com

Steve Kennedy  http://www.kennedy-optics.com

Orion UK http://www.orionoptics.co.uk  in England, of course....

Jens Jacobsen ---can't find a website---

Sky Observing ---can't find website---

Spooner  http://www.mikespoon...ike_spooner.htm

John Nichol https://nicholoptical.co.uk  in the UK....

 

Any more?

 

Dave

Dave,

The Sky Observing web site is: http://skyobserving....and-telescopes/ . The owner of that new, Toronto based company is a gentleman by the name of Zoran Stojcevski. On his website he says he has been an amateur astronomer for 37 years but has been making mirrors and telescopes for only 4 years. His mirrors, from 20 to 40 inch, are aluminized by Normand Fullum. Norm told me that they looked smooth and well made but I don’t know to what extent he tested them. I would be cautious until we see more test reports by experienced obsevers testing these scopes, but the prices are really interesting and there is one report of a satisfied buyer.

 

I will edit the list.

 

Dave



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Posted 08 January 2018 - 05:46 AM

Dan Joyce's optical shop has been down for some time although he still does do mirror making workshops at the WSP. This year he will be getting knee replacement surgery and will not be at WSP.

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:53 PM

 

Nowadays do most of these mirror makers offer the thinner quartz substrates?

 

Steve

lol.gif  No offense...

 

 

EDIT:  You'd best ask them individually, and specify what you mean by "thinner" when you do.

 

Just looking for some information- probably wrong forum? Thanks anyway 



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Posted 08 January 2018 - 07:36 PM

I don’t have anything constructive to add at this point.... Probably the best approach to these forums right Mark?

 

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 08:18 PM

Is Steve Swayze turning out mirrors reliably now?  I was looking for someone to refigure my mirror, and there were a number of posts in the archives indicating it took years to get their mirrors form him, some people were taking him to court.  I hate to say bad things if he has gotten himself organized, but if he is still struggling, people should know that too.

I agree. The thread dated May 2017 looked bad for Swayze. 



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Posted 08 January 2018 - 08:25 PM

 

Nowadays do most of these mirror makers offer the thinner quartz substrates?

 

Steve

lol.gif  No offense...

 

 

EDIT:  You'd best ask them individually, and specify what you mean by "thinner" when you do.

 

 

Just to be clear.    The laughing face with the no offense comment.   Really not constructive.

 

i understand you may not have much information or can’t  say much.   So don’t post then...

 

i don’t really have a thin skin.   But not appropriate...  I was honestly looking for some information on who was making thin mirrors.  Not that complicated of a topic.   I’m you care to discuss further please  PM me

 

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 08:41 PM

The LOL emoticon was a direct answer to your question:

 

Nowadays do most of these mirror makers offer the thinner quartz substrates?

 

That answer was "no", most of these mirror makers do not offer the "thinner quartz substrates."  

 

I've deleted the rest of my replies about this OT diversion and wish you only the best.


Edited by mark cowan, 08 January 2018 - 08:44 PM.



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