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If you had £4000 what scope would you buy ?

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#1 ribuck

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 02:39 PM

Ok new rules to the hypothetical fun question....

 

You're given £4,000 tomorrow under 1 condition that you have to spend it on a scope and only a scope, i.e. No spending on obs, mount, eye pieces etc

 

So what would you choose to buy for yourself and why ?

 

And remember, this is not what you recommend for me, it's what you would buy for yourself

 

Cheers,

Rich


Edited by ribuck, 13 March 2018 - 03:32 PM.


#2 sg6

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 02:42 PM

What is your present depth of experience?


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Posted 13 March 2018 - 02:53 PM

That translates to about $5600 at the time of this writing.

 

If I had to buy only a scope, I'd probably get an 18" Stargate. If I could buy eyepieces, I'd get a Lightbridge 16, Paracorr, and a few Ethoses.



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 02:55 PM

Being a visual observer, and having a strong preference for refractors I would look at a Takahashi FC-100DL with a good mount and a few quality eyepieces. That's about £4000 worth of gear. But that's only because I'm a refractor nut who values optical excellence and portability over aperture. The more sensible choice would be to spend considerably less money, and save the money for your next purchase.

 

The problem these days (if one can consider it a problem) is that very good optics today are incredibly inexpensive in a historical perspective. It's actually challenging to spend so much money on a single scope unless (1) you get aperture fever or (2) you specifically decide to buy premium scopes. So personally I'd realistically consider getting two less expensive scopes to complement each other... like a small 80-100 mm APO for grab-and-go, and a larger reflector for those rare nights of excellent seeing and plenty of time. No scope, no matter how expensive, can satisfy all needs.



#5 Mark9473

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 02:56 PM

I would buy a Baader 95 mm fluorite triplet refractor. https://www.baader-p...-companion.html

Or alternatively a Mewlon 180C but only if I find a light-weight alt-az mount that carries it well enough.

Or something else, I just keep changing my mind.



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 03:01 PM

Already had a TEC140ED in that price range. Best APO I ever owned, but too heavy now at my age. I'd spend the money on an observatory instead, or maybe a used AP1100GTO. Already have a 16" Dob so an 18" is not different enough.

Now if I had nothing at all a big Dob would be a good first choice. No mount to buy also so biggest bang for the buck.



#7 michaelmcdermott

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 03:13 PM

Any scope that you can handle and use constantly is the best choice!



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 03:18 PM

Buy a good used 18" Obsession classic, or !8" Starmaster.  If you want a nice 5" APO, the Stellarvue 130mm F7 is

hard to beat for the money.


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#9 dr.who

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 03:19 PM

Answering in the blind since you didn't specify what you wanted to do with the equipment ie: AP or visual or both.

 

Celestron EdgeHD 8"

TEMPest Fans for it

Takahashi FC-100DF

Astronomics AT72EDII (for imaging if not then remove and replace with a Skywatcher AZ-GTi for G&G with the FC-100DF)

Skywatcher AZ-EQ6 (to mount both scopes at the same time)

a pair of 2" good quality diagonals (so you can use both scopes at the same time)

Explore Scientific 82 degree eyepiece kit

Canon DSLR (if doing AP. If not remove it)

Starbound chair (not for your bum but for your eyes. You see more when you are comfortably seated)

Pocket Sky Atlas by Sky and Telescope

Red headlamp

Telrad

Stellarvue 60mm finderscope



#10 Eric H

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 03:44 PM

I'd go for 130-150ish APO because I really like the images produced by refractors.

 

Amazed at how many people didn't really read your post.


Edited by Eric H, 13 March 2018 - 03:46 PM.

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#11 siriusandthepup

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 03:47 PM

hmm...

 

If this is truly mad money, this scope is top of my dream list. The scope that you would never actually purchase - but constantly dream about:

 

A Teeter's STS 11" with a Zambuto upgrade.... yeah, that's what I'd buy. Compact, no compromise, just large enough.



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 03:49 PM

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 03:57 PM

Ok new rules to the hypothetical fun question....

 

You're given £4,000 tomorrow under 1 condition that you have to spend it on a scope and only a scope, i.e. No spending on obs, mount, eye pieces etc

 

So what would you choose to buy for yourself and why ?

 

And remember, this is not what you recommend for me, it's what you would buy for yourself

 

Cheers,

Rich

I'd buy a nice, British scope!  Tom



#14 ribuck

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:08 PM

For me it would probably be a 150mm esprit apo or a Orion optivs ODK10



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:08 PM

If I wanted aperture, 15 inch obsession. If I wanted more portable and top quality large ish aperture and planet destroyer, i would get a Teeter 10 inch F/6 sts dob with quartz zambuto, antares 1/30 secondary, and feathertouch focuser. If I wanted a Refractor, I would choose a Tec 140. If I wanted a SCT I would choose edge hd 1100 on either a cpc or atlas pro mount. If I wanted a AP setup I would choose a SkyWatcher Espirit 100 on a Losmandy G11.

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:35 PM

Imager. TEC 140 F7.

Got a Teleskop Services 130mm F7 for about 2000 pounds, a price point and performance I was comfortable with.

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:38 PM

As I'm now almost strictly AP, I would get a TEC 140 depending on pound fluctuations (it might be slightly over budget). 

 

Other candidate: TAK FSQ-106EDX.

 

Had I been visual, Edge HD 14 without a doubt. Of course someone would have to pay for the mount and for someone to lift it...



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:49 PM

Visual 90% of the time.  Nice premium 12 inch Dob.  Easy to store, move and transport.  My medium term plan as it happens.



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:53 PM

It depends if you are a visual observer or an astrophotographer

 

For the first I tthink about a big dobson 16-18", for the second one I think about a good APO or a good astrograph



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 05:00 PM

You're given £4,000 tomorrow under 1 condition that you have to spend it on a scope and only a scope, i.e. No spending on obs, mount, eye pieces etc

 

So what would you choose to buy for yourself and why ?

 

And remember, this is not what you recommend for me, it's what you would buy for yourself

 

I'd hope to convince Mike Lockwood to take them in exchange for his 14.5 inch F2.55 RFT:

 

Lockwood14p5me.jpg

 

If he refused me, then I'd go to Roel and try to convince him to take them in exchange for his 10" travelscope:

 

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If Roel refused me, I'd cry profusely, and settle for a 6" APO.

 

Edit: Why?

Mike's RFT is unique, and it's compact, and it's a truly Rich Field telescope. I can only imagine the views.

 

Roel's can travel anywhere, I could take it to any dark site. any beach vacation. My future travels to Perú and Chile, Anywhere.

 

¿You know what? I've changed my mind, I'd ask Roel first.


Edited by Adun, 13 March 2018 - 05:03 PM.

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#21 ribuck

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 08:19 PM

I'm feeling a lot of love for Dobs out there.........In fact a 10" Dob was my first ever scope.



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 10:52 PM

Well that would get me into a Tak TSA120 which would be a big increase in aperture for what I have now. It might even leave a little change left over. I hear great things about the Taks both for visual which is my main interest and the possibility of imaging at a later date should the bug ever bite (which I have no doubt it will one day).

 

Nick



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Posted 14 March 2018 - 09:29 PM

I'd buy 10", 14", and 20" glass blanks and a mountain of grit and pitch, then learn to make mirrors and wind up with a 20" f/4 ultralight dob. I'd have to save up some pennies for a Paracorr after it was done I guess. :)

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 09:54 PM

I would buy a Baader 95 mm fluorite triplet refractor. https://www.baader-p...-companion.html

Or alternatively a Mewlon 180C but only if I find a light-weight alt-az mount that carries it well enough.

Or something else, I just keep changing my mind.

That Baader scope looks good, too bad it's not available. 



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Posted 15 March 2018 - 04:07 AM

I play this game all the time hahah, just browsing telescopes I can't afford

 

4 thousand quid?

 

Probably a Meade 14" f/8, or a GSO 14" Truss tube RC




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