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Are you a Vixen Fluorite/ED fan?

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#301 Defenderslideguitar

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Posted 04 March 2020 - 04:36 PM

I posted a want ad for one of these but nobody wants to let them go.  So I jumped on a classic Tak FC 100 f/8 instead.  bounce.gif elephant.gif

I did the same thing     I posted a want add in early 2018 for a Vixen 102fl    but not one available...then I bought a 1990  Tak FC-100   and It is great....then   someone contacted me about the Vixen C102fl f8.8 and I told them I bought the Tak but if they waited  a bit  I would still buy the C-102fl    and they agreed to wait for me to save the dough  and now I have them both....


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#302 Kutno

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Posted 04 March 2020 - 06:42 PM

Found this nice review of one:

 https://astromart.co...d115s-refractor

 

I think it's an interesting size. Of course the SW120ed would be cheaper in general. But I don't know how the two compare. 

 

On the used market I found the 103s is in general a better value as the price of the 115s jump a bit.

 

Looks like a great scope though. I think for me, if I were to go up from a 4 inch, I'd want to go to a 130+ aperture. So even the 120 seems to small a jump. But if someone only was going to get one refractor, the 115 seems like a good fit. Light weight and quite capable.

 

The Vixen ED115S is one excellent scope.  Its optics are superb.  As you note, it has light weight and is quite capable.  That weight, together with its additional 32% in light gathering ability over a 100mm aperture scope, makes it more of a grab-and-go scope for me than the heavier Dobs I must haul.  

 

Mr. Carlino spoke the truth in his review.   


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Posted 04 March 2020 - 11:23 PM

Anyone use a 115 SD or ED?

The ED115s was special with very similar color correction to the Tak FC100DF, must be a Japanese thingy. Seemed to be a bit more yellow vs. clinical views of Tak DF with binoviewer. The extra 15mm did show some exit pupil and resolution advantage. Still the FC DF stayed even vs the SW 120ED. Would probably go for 125-140mm to notice improvements.


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Posted 07 March 2020 - 11:47 AM

I am a big fan of the Vixen Fluorites.  I owned a black Celestron/Vixen f/8.8 C102F in the late 80s and unfortunately sold it after acquiring an AP130.  Big mistake!  I recently acquired this Orion/Vixen f/9 102FL and just love it. Unlike my other scopes, I can be setup and at the eyepiece in under 10 minutes.  And the views are wonderfully crisp and clear with no detectable CA.  These are truly wonderful scopes.

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Posted 09 March 2020 - 12:51 PM

I am a big fan of the Vixen Fluorites.  I owned a black Celestron/Vixen f/8.8 C102F in the late 80s and unfortunately sold it after acquiring an AP130.  Big mistake!  I recently acquired this Orion/Vixen f/9 102FL and just love it. Unlike my other scopes, I can be setup and at the eyepiece in under 10 minutes.  And the views are wonderfully crisp and clear with no detectable CA.  These are truly wonderful scopes.

Beautiful setup!!



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Posted 09 March 2020 - 03:37 PM

Picked up this Vixen 70mm f8 fluorite from the classifieds and it rides perfectly on my Vixen Advanced Polaris.Beautiful scope. The focusser is a bit stiff for my liking so I'll be taking it apart and re-lubing with some lithium grase.

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Posted 09 March 2020 - 04:18 PM

I am a happy owner of the Vixen ED81S, clearly superior to the refractors that I previously owned: Borg 77EDII and Skywatcher 80ED.

 

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Posted 10 March 2020 - 12:46 PM

Nice Valerio!

 

(...and take care in Milano)



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Posted 10 March 2020 - 02:07 PM

I am a big fan of the Vixen Fluorites.  I owned a black Celestron/Vixen f/8.8 C102F in the late 80s and unfortunately sold it after acquiring an AP130.  Big mistake!  I recently acquired this Orion/Vixen f/9 102FL and just love it. Unlike my other scopes, I can be setup and at the eyepiece in under 10 minutes.  And the views are wonderfully crisp and clear with no detectable CA.  These are truly wonderful scopes.

I think they call these "Teflon Tasco's".  And that green focuser!  Really?  You must have been drinking Romulan Ale that night.  ;-P



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Posted 10 March 2020 - 06:47 PM

I think they call these "Teflon Tasco's".  And that green focuser!  Really?  You must have been drinking Romulan Ale that night.  ;-P

 

They are the poor man’s Tak.  After all that Romulan Ale, everything looked green


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Posted 22 March 2020 - 01:18 PM

Haha! My kind of topic!

Let me see off the top of my head.....

90F every bit what they say about them! Sold when a Skywatcher 120ED arrived....hummmm

70F nice little black beauty in Celestron trim with Feather touch.

102ED F/9 Good scope, did not have it for long.

81ED nice grab n go on the portramount.

120 NeoAchromat. BIG SCOPE Big mount mehhhh.

Numerous 102/80achromats. They come and go. Like to restore and pass them on to new astromomers.

Currently...

102EDSS! Rather like this F6.5. Moonlite focuser, HEQ5 for serious nights, AZ4 for quick peeks and solar.

 

Clear Skies.

Craig

 

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Posted 22 March 2020 - 01:43 PM


 

Clear Skies.

Craig

 

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What is the Holy Grail 102F?


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Posted 22 March 2020 - 02:03 PM

What is the Holy Grail 102F?
 

This


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Posted 23 March 2020 - 09:22 PM

I enjoyed mine while I had it.  smile.gif

 

Correction...mine was the ED and not the fluorite version (I had to double check).  Great scope none the less.  

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 08:44 AM

I enjoyed mine while I had it.  smile.gif

But this isn't a 102FL, is it?


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Posted 24 March 2020 - 09:12 AM

Good question! That was a long time ago and I honestly don’t remember now that I think about it. I thought it was the fluorite version, but it may have been the ED version.

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 03:16 PM

ED-102SS by the length - or the tube was shortend maybe?



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Posted 24 March 2020 - 07:35 PM

But this isn't a 102FL, is it?

It is the ED102SS F/6.5. I have one:

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Posted 27 March 2020 - 12:59 AM

Post from stargazerslounge forum of a FL102 beside a Tak FC100DC.

  https://stargazerslo...comment=3815011



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Posted 29 March 2020 - 04:09 PM

I like Vixens.  The optics are great. 

 

It's the rest of the build that sometimes let's the fine optics down.  Old vixen focusers were all over the map.  Many were very stiff.  So much so that focusing wasn't pleasant (I've had 4 Vixens over the years and two were definitely in this category).  The focusers on the newer Vixen EDs are better and more consistent, but not very durable.  I've known multiple CNer owners who have actually "worn out" and had to replace the soft stock focusers on modern Vixens.

 

On balance I think you get more for your money with Takahashi, now that they've re-introduced fluorite doublets, though Takahashi focusers, too, can be hit or miss affairs.  It's a shame that the Japanese seem to have a hard time making consistently good focusers.

 

But strictly optically speaking, the old Vixen ED fluorites were great.

 

Best,

 

Jim


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Posted 29 March 2020 - 05:12 PM

I like Vixens.  The optics are great. 

 

It's the rest of the build that sometimes let's the fine optics down.  Old vixen focusers were all over the map.  Many were very stiff.  So much so that focusing wasn't pleasant (I've had 4 Vixens over the years and two were definitely in this category).  The focusers on the newer Vixen EDs are better and more consistent, but not very durable.  I've known multiple CNer owners who have actually "worn out" and had to replace the soft stock focusers on modern Vixens.

 

On balance I think you get more for your money with Takahashi, now that they've re-introduced fluorite doublets, though Takahashi focusers, too, can be hit or miss affairs.  It's a shame that the Japanese seem to have a hard time making consistently good focusers.

 

But strictly optically speaking, the old Vixen ED fluorites were great.

 

Best,

 

Jim

Agree Jim, Hence......

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#322 Defenderslideguitar

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Posted 29 March 2020 - 06:50 PM

Vixen 102fl      ad     a better focus er   and voila    a keeper

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Posted 30 March 2020 - 11:42 AM

I like Vixens.  The optics are great. 

 

It's the rest of the build that sometimes let's the fine optics down.  Old vixen focusers were all over the map.  Many were very stiff.  So much so that focusing wasn't pleasant (I've had 4 Vixens over the years and two were definitely in this category).  The focusers on the newer Vixen EDs are better and more consistent, but not very durable.  I've known multiple CNer owners who have actually "worn out" and had to replace the soft stock focusers on modern Vixens.

 

On balance I think you get more for your money with Takahashi, now that they've re-introduced fluorite doublets, though Takahashi focusers, too, can be hit or miss affairs.  It's a shame that the Japanese seem to have a hard time making consistently good focusers.

 

But strictly optically speaking, the old Vixen ED fluorites were great.

 

Best,

 

Jim

My first Vixen focuser, late 1980s, was done in by a 13T1 Nagler. It needed racking out, and that was its downfall. 



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Posted 30 March 2020 - 01:41 PM

Vixen 102fl      ad     a better focus er   and voila    a keeper

 

For Gods sake - put a BLACK focuser on the telescope!!!   lol.gif

 

Like this:

 

 

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Posted 31 March 2020 - 04:40 AM

Can't disagree with the focusers on the vixens. I can say the new ones are pretty decent. But it is an easy fix with a moonlite or feather touch. Comsidering the value you get on the used market, a focuser upgrade is still under cost. My new to me 103s is crazy good optically. I can't wait to see Jupiter and Saturn with it. The Moon with the binoviewer and two 16mm Brandons was insane.


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