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#51 tim53

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 06:20 PM

Why only okay views?


 

#52 AD14EM2

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 06:36 PM

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#53 tim53

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 06:39 PM

I sure hope they don't keep it in the backyard all the time!


 

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 06:41 PM

Woah! Hold on there pardner! They transposed the last two digits. It was built in 1967 and went to Stellafane that year.

 

http://www.sheephill...rg/history.html

OK, cool!  Thanks for setting the record straight.  I looked back as far as '69.  Never crossed my mind they transposed the numbers. 

 

[edit]  And....

 

That doesn't appear to be correct either.  All 3 mechanical award winners in '67 were 6" Newts.

 

https://stellafane.o...rs/winners.html

 

It's always possible there is an error in the historical records, but right now, I'm going by STM's records.


Edited by Geo31, 02 April 2018 - 06:49 PM.

 

#55 AD14EM2

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 06:45 PM

I sure hope they don't keep it in the backyard all the time!

No kidding, with the amount of oak pollen we’ve had flying around here recently, it would be a mess...


 

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 06:53 PM

Unitron 142 that needs some tlc in the Grand Rapids area.

 

 

https://grandrapids....6527889081.html


 

#57 Geo31

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 06:56 PM

Oh....  Must resist....  OMG.    Someone is going to get a steal, especially if they can dicker a bit.


 

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 07:05 PM

the whole point is, why do that knock down for the current price when you can get the far better version COMPLETE WITH SCOPE for less.

 

Compare the good:

Good Polaris

 

to the well overpriced Polaris:

bad Polaris deal

About the over priced mount.

Based on my research it's as supplied (one small weight & thin legs), for the grey tube Cometron CO 60E that has plastic parts.

 

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https://www.cloudyni...tor-from-1980s/

 

The earlier orange tube 60mm appears to use the same mount but has a slightly larger weight and sturdier legs. I believe the orange tube 60s share the same mount with the orange tube 80s of the period but the 80s have an even larger weight.

 

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https://www.cloudyni...-c60-refractor/


 

#59 CHASLX200

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 07:09 PM

Unitron 142 that needs some tlc in the Grand Rapids area.

 

 

https://grandrapids....6527889081.html

Looks like it was made in the 50's.  


 

#60 starman876

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 07:28 PM

Looks like it was made in the 50's.  

Chas is right. It does look like a 50's scope with the black setting circles.  A shame the paint on the OTA is all beat up.  


 

#61 Esso2112

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 08:07 PM

Clamshell is part of the mount.  Definitely 50's. 


 

#62 Marc-Andre

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 08:12 PM

OK, cool!  Thanks for setting the record straight.  I looked back as far as '69.  Never crossed my mind they transposed the numbers. 

 

[edit]  And....

 

That doesn't appear to be correct either.  All 3 mechanical award winners in '67 were 6" Newts.

 

https://stellafane.o...rs/winners.html

 

It's always possible there is an error in the historical records, but right now, I'm going by STM's records.

Stellafane photo archive, 1967, 8th picture. But, I'm repeating myself.


Edited by Marc-Andre, 02 April 2018 - 08:43 PM.

 

#63 zjc26138

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 08:14 PM

Chas is right. It does look like a 50's scope with the black setting circles.  A shame the paint on the OTA is all beat up.  

But is it worth the asking price?


 

#64 starman876

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 08:17 PM

But is it worth the asking price?

The mount in good condition is worth about $700.  You can figure out the rest.


 

#65 gelkin

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 09:00 PM

Don't see a counter weight shaft or weight. That's a problem. smirk.gif


 

#66 twhite

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 10:39 PM

Why only okay views?

largeish chunk out of the center might have affected the figure of the mirror.  Just a thought.


 

#67 Littlegreenman

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 02:24 AM

Vintage Vixen 5MD SP 5 pin motors, a variety to choose from, with some covers and hard to find DEC bracket

 

https://www.astromar...ified_id=975210


 

#68 CHASLX200

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 05:21 AM

But is it worth the asking price?

It would depend on the lens. I bought a pre 1955 M-160 back in 2005 for $500, it was missing the weight drive and was in worse shape than the scope we are talking about. The lens was shot on that old 4".

 

If the scope is working and has a clean and good lens i would go $750.


 

#69 Augustus

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 06:32 AM

Ultima C8, still $950

 

https://newyork.crai...6541423515.html


 

#70 Geo31

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 06:42 AM

Stellafane photo archive, 1967, 8th picture. But, I'm repeating myself.

 

Yep.  Saw the pic.  Not sure what that has to do with the awards.


 

#71 Marc-Andre

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 08:07 AM

Yep.  Saw the pic.  Not sure what that has to do with the awards.

The Stellafane home page link to the Previous & Historic Convention Competition Winners does qualify the info as containing many but not all winners, though it is probably mostly complete for 1967.  The convention program for 1967 listing for informal talks records that Kennedy and Montclair were scheduled to give a talk on this telescope, here,  Was there a participation ribbon? Perhaps memory fails over the years regarding specific detail as the scope was passed on. 


 

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 08:35 AM

I say they are cheap made slade. Mine has the worst focuser i ever used.  Image shift and mirror flop is the worst in any of the 230 scopes i have had. But at least my 125 etx has the best optics i have seen a while. Optics need to be removed and a new OTA built.

SMH. Just add a helical focuser to the back port if it's that bad. Mine cannot be a great exception, it's a randomly selected unit which had one purpose, to be a travel scope for the eclipse. I didn't expect it to be as good as it is. There is zero image shift and the focuser is very good. I suspect a lot of the problems are user error, e.g. over-tightening clamps, running up against hard stops because of wrong initial position, not knowing what to expect from a Mak (small mirror movement = big focus movement). It's not a general purpose telescope, why should you expect it to behave as one? If you didn't want a Mak why did you buy one? If you had an animus for plastic but wanted a Mak, why didn't you buy another Questar or a Quantum or an Intes or the like? And you can't just remove the optics, they are very precisely collimated by optical machinery at the factory.

 

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 11:07 AM

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 05:21 PM

Really pretty classic Atco 3” F16 right here by one of our own Classics forum members:

 

https://www.cloudyni...actor-eq-mount/


 

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 05:42 PM

Ultima C8, still $950

 

https://newyork.crai...6541423515.html

Not at 950 smackers unless it has a few Nags.


 


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