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#26 pacazo

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 06:36 PM

Of course there might also be a weight loss to be found in plastic lenses (horrors!). I am viewing this screen very clearly through polycarbonate right now. 

 

As for the Zeiss I am only getting a 2 ounce reduction from my Celestron 8x42 pair if I go that way. For the 2 ounces I'll take the aperture gain. I lose 6.5 ounces by going with the BNISE units. As far as comparisons go I do have the Celestrons for comparison. I don't doubt that the Zeiss is better than the BNISE but if I can be in the ballpark and not have to worry about losing them on a trip that would be a win for me. In any case the experiment will be fun. If they are good I will have found a diamond in the rough. If they are garbage we will all know, and I will try something else. This is entertainment not life and death and I am enjoying the journey.

 

I would love to see the results of your weight tests Ant1. I hope manufacturers watch these forums and consider new design ideas. There are a lot of great products out there but there is always room for improvement.



#27 Neil Sanford

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 02:54 AM

Ant1, your comments please on the Chinese 6x24. 

 

In daytime I like it a lot  In daytime it's modern coatings give it very appealing color and contrast.  In daytime I prefer the Chinese 6x24 to the unique and wonderful Komz.  Have not tried the Chinese 6x24 at night.



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Posted 10 April 2018 - 04:28 AM

Like to travel and always bring my binoculars, but even my 8X42s at 1.5 pounds are a substantial portion of my carry on luggage. I want is all - decent aperture and weight less than one pound. Anyone know what fits that bill? Even smaller binoculars seem to weigh almost as much as mine.

If you are happy with your 8x42 you might want to consider lightening some of the other stuff you have in your carry-on. i.e smaller bottles for toiletries, fewer cables, e-book instead of paper, lighter jacket etc. If the issue is carry-on weight limits, also don't forget that all passengers, regardless of gender, are usually allowed one carry-on piece and a small purse (or equivalent)... Assuming you are male, your "purse" can be a small camera bag with your binoculars and field guide... that is how gender equality can work to your advantage smile.gif

 

Of course if this discussion is to provide validation for getting something new, then by all means, please ignore my post flowerred.gif grin.gif


Edited by Mad Matt, 10 April 2018 - 04:38 AM.


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 04:57 AM

In my quest for smaller is better,
I have added to my 8x32s both
8x25 terras and 8x20 monovids
smaller is more portable, larger can see more
a trade off- which bang do you want?

edj

Edited by edwincjones, 10 April 2018 - 04:59 AM.

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 08:37 AM

If that doesn't work, buy a lighter suitcase.



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Posted 10 April 2018 - 10:02 AM

Oberwerk has a LW series. Here is the 6.5x32 LW at 1.07lb.

https://oberwerk.com...ght-binoculars/



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Posted 10 April 2018 - 01:13 PM

Hi

 

 

Ant1, your comments please on the Chinese 6x24.

In daytime I like it a lot  In daytime it's modern coatings give it very appealing color and contrast.  In daytime I prefer the Chinese 6x24 to the unique and wonderful Komz.  Have not tried the Chinese 6x24 at night.

 

The chinese 6x24 is not bad but I prefer the Komz.

The Komz has more field, better contrast, and is sharper (provided they have been internally cleaned)

On the other hand the image is yellow and they are heavier.

 

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 08:29 PM

I started digging deeper. I found that there are several 8x42 binoculars for around a pound. I will post more of the list tomorrow, but one that caught my eye is the Meade Wilderness at 18.5 oz. I think there is a Nikon in the weight range also. Maybe I don’t have to go down to a 32 to get close to my goal.

#34 Neil Sanford

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 11:15 PM

Hi

 

 

The chinese 6x24 is not bad but I prefer the Komz.

The Komz has more field, better contrast, and is sharper (provided they have been internally cleaned)

On the other hand the image is yellow and they are heavier.

 

Ant1

Thanks for this info.

Neil


Edited by Neil Sanford, 12 April 2018 - 11:16 PM.


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Posted 13 April 2018 - 05:12 AM

I started digging deeper. I found that there are several 8x42 binoculars for around a pound. I will post more of the list tomorrow, but one that caught my eye is the Meade Wilderness at 18.5 oz. I think there is a Nikon in the weight range also. Maybe I don’t have to go down to a 32 to get close to my goal.

Stay away from roof prism binoculars not having phase coatings, they will be quite noticeably less bright and contrasty.

 

Another idea, there are some 8x36 that could also be a good compromise.



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Posted 13 April 2018 - 06:29 AM

My suggestion would be my zeiss victory 8x32,
but at 1.23# does not meet your weight requirement
but what is an extra 4 oz?

edj


Best Bang for the Weight

Reviewing the posts, my thoughts
I would still go with an 8x32
Heavier than the pockets, but also better optics
we do want the best bang and I would
compromise more with weight than glass

edj

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#37 pacazo

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:53 AM

Here is what I found with 8x42 binoculars that are under 20 oz. There are a couple of decent brands. I agree on getting quality optics, but as we all know aperture counts for a lot. It is all a balance. 

 

Store MFG Spec Name MFG Model Wgt Oz Wgt Gm Cost
B&H Konus 8x42 Titanium 2327 15.9 450 70.00
B&H Meade 8x42 Wilderness 125024 18.6 527.3 65.00
B&H Konus 8x42 KonusRex 2344 19.4 550 129.00
B&H Nikon 8x42 Prostaff 3S 16030 19.93 565 117.00
B&H Burris 8x42 Droptine 300290 20.1 569.8 249.00

 

I emailed Meade to confirm the weight and it is accurate. The Konus is hard to come by and the few reviews I found were sketchy. Nikon is tempting but I have to confirm the weight.

 

I will be doing the same search on 8x32s. I think that anything smaller is just not going to have the light grab I want.



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Posted 13 April 2018 - 09:50 AM

My wife has this 10-25 X 42 zoom monocular - 12 oz

https://www.telescop...yword=monocular

 

Single mag 10X42 monocular - 11 oz.

 

She uses it on a mini tripod something like this.

https://www.amazon.c...rds=mini tripod   About 5 ounces.



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Posted 13 April 2018 - 01:45 PM

Here is 1LB and under in 8x32 units. A lot more to choose from:

 

MFG Spec Name MFG Model Wgt Oz Wgt Gm Cost

Snypex 8x32 Knight D-ED 9832D-ED 13.4 380 440.00
Synpex 8x32 HD Profinder 9832-HD 13.4 379.9 200.00
Optichron 8x32 Traveller BGA Mg 30598 13.4 380 329.00
Synpex 8x32 Knight ED 9832-ED 13.4 379.9 380.00
Eschenbach 8x32 Sektor D-Series B 4251832 13.722 389 231.00
Vixen 8x32 Altrek IIDCF 14723 13.757 390 219.00
Optichron 8x32 Discovery WP PC 30452 13.792 391 229.00
Tasco 8x32 Focus Free 100832 14 397 39.00
Nikon 8x30 Prostaff 7S 16000 14.6 415 187.00
Optichron 8x33 Savanna R PC 30738 15.1 428 165.00
Vanguard  8x32 Orros 8320 15.3 433.8 110.00
Nikon 8x30 Monarch 7579 15.3 435 377.00
Vortex 8x32 Diamondback DB-202 15.5 439.4 190.00
Bushnell 8x32 Trophy 333208 15.5 439.4 80.00
Bushnell 8x32 Off Trail 218032 15.5 439 90.00
Optichron 8x32 Traveller BGA ED 30648 15.91 451 399.00
Bushnell 8x32 Natureview Roof Prism 220832 16 453.6 80.00
Sig Sauer 8x32 ZULU3 SOZ38001 16 453 171.00
Celestron 8x32 Trailseeker 71400 16 453.6 185.00

 

I haven't combed through to check out the best options.



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Posted 13 April 2018 - 02:03 PM

Hmm ... interesting list! I think I'd plump for the Nikon Monarch 7.though I've not looked through any of these binos.

 

Graham



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Posted 20 April 2018 - 02:05 PM

First light last night with the BNISE/Asikas. Ran them against an assortment of glasses from 6x30 Yamatars to 7x50 Celestrons. The best overall performers were the aforementioned Celestron Nature DX 8x42s. The BNISE/Asikas were actually pretty good, and I would say excellent for the pricepoint. Similar to the Celestrons with less contrast and brightness. However every binoc fell short in terms of edge to edge clarity. I might be looking more in the Nikon category for the next try. I think I can do better but no telling without trying.



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Posted 20 April 2018 - 05:24 PM

Sig Sauer 8x32 ZULU3 SOZ38001 16 453 171.00

 

I wish someone would take a look through one of the Sig Sauer Zulu binoculars

& give us a mini-review.

 

Stan


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Posted 21 April 2018 - 01:32 AM

I have a Zulu 9 ordered, it‘s being shipped right now and should arrive in  a week or so, and I am happy to give a brief feedback once I have it, since I got intrigued myself by binomania‘s recent excellent review of the Zulu 9.


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Posted 21 April 2018 - 10:50 AM

I have a Zulu 9 ordered, it‘s being shipped right now and should arrive in  a week or so, and I am happy to give a brief feedback once I have it, since I got intrigued myself by binomania‘s recent excellent review of the Zulu 9.

Looking forward to your review.

 

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Posted 21 April 2018 - 11:15 AM

I have a Zulu 9 ordered, it‘s being shipped right now and should arrive in a week or so, and I am happy to give a brief feedback once I have it, since I got intrigued myself by binomania‘s recent excellent review of the Zulu 9.


I am wondering if these have the same internals as the Maxen B2. Should be quite good if that is the case.

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 04:44 PM

I have a Zulu 9 ordered, it‘s being shipped right now and should arrive in  a week or so, and I am happy to give a brief feedback once I have it, since I got intrigued myself by binomania‘s recent excellent review of the Zulu 9.


Hi Pinac,

as others have said, your review would be warmly appreciated...

Although I'm not sure if I would want to be seen with an instrument of a brand normally associated with 9x19...

Joachim


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 12:55 AM

Hi Pinac,

as others have said, your review would be warmly appreciated...

Although I'm not sure if I would want to be seen with an instrument of a brand normally associated with 9x19...

Joachim

 

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I have to admit that I worked at SIG headquarters in Switzerland for seven years in the early 2000s, but at that time, they had just sold or their weaponry (together with the SIG Arms and SIG-Sauer brands) and were focusing on packaging machines.

SIG itself never sold anything like SIG binoculars, so the SIG-Sauer guys must have taken that up much later (and they don‘t produce themselves, they let produce in Japan).

Currently, the shipment is announced delayed in Leipzig (why??) due to „customs issues“. I wonder what that means .....

I say goodbye here to you all, just in case I get arrested for illegal arms import or what wink.gif


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 01:25 AM

I say goodbye here to you all, just in case I get arrested for illegal arms import or what wink.gif


Hi,

we'll visit you... and put a pair of 8x25 inside the cake along with the file...

Joachim
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 01:31 AM

8x25??

9x19 would be more useful ...


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 02:24 AM

Hi,

 

but back to topic - the o.p. could do a lot worse than with a Nikon M7 8x30 or with one of its Kamakura brethren from Opticron, Kite or Maven (did I forget one?).

 

They do a lot right and few things wrong and their price and the lack of a flashy alpha label are a good thing if you're traveling and stuff might change hands involuntarily...

 

Joachim


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