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#1 Shneor

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 01:17 AM

Many years ago, I ordered a 10mm eyepiece from Burgess Optical and paid half the price in advance. I had a call from Bill today, and the eyepiece will be shipped in a few weeks. There are aspheric lenses, and he said that QC issues were what took so long to resolve, as aspheric lenses are more difficult to machine. There's a photo of the eyepiece in his web site, burgessoptical.com. There will be other focal lenghths available over the next year.

 

Bill has always been an innovator and I appreciate what he has done.

 

 


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 06:21 AM

Wow, you're more patient than I (to wait several years).

Which eyepiece is this exactly?



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:06 AM

I seem to recall something like that, i got my money back like after 2 years. I thought I waited long.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:07 AM

Wow, you're more patient than I (to wait several years).

Which eyepiece is this exactly?

http://www.burgessoptical.com

 

Looks like the 10mm Ultra Mono....



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:11 PM

http://www.burgessoptical.com

 

Looks like the 10mm Ultra Mono....

I'll believe it when someone has one in their hand.

Looks promising so lets hope!


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:56 PM

I met him at a show this year, nice fellow. Has some interesting Erfel  eyepieces at  great prices.



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 03:27 PM

Many years ago, I ordered a 10mm eyepiece from Burgess Optical and paid half the price in advance. I had a call from Bill today, and the eyepiece will be shipped in a few weeks. There are aspheric lenses, and he said that QC issues were what took so long to resolve, as aspheric lenses are more difficult to machine. There's a photo of the eyepiece in his web site, burgessoptical.com. There will be other focal lenghths available over the next year.

 

Bill has always been an innovator and I appreciate what he has done.

Very interesting, can you say a little more about the eypiece?  What design, field of view, how many lenses, and groups?

 

many thanks

 

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 03:29 PM

He probably doesn't remember what he ordered.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:05 PM

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:33 PM

Agreed very nice person, but most of his ideas\products became vaporware.

I think that's all what was said 10mm ultra mono. I couldn't get my hands on a 10mm tmb mono.Still haven't, so I was psyched to get one.

His products are pretty good once they are ready to be sold.

What seem to usually happen, he would have a great idea. Tell some people, get some down payments for the product. The cost of the final product ended up much more than he

thought it was gonna be, so would become vaporware. I may be wrong but aspherics was not of as a buzz word it is today. Maybe a new adaptation to make his idea finally work at said price.

Was around $100 I believe paid half.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 01:17 AM

It's a Thomas Back design, with what should be a very flat field. True, I don't recall the specs, it has been many years. They are ordering eyepiece caps and boxes for the 10mm now. The 30mm 80* eyepiece pictured has absolutely no distortion edge-to-edge according to Bill. We shall see.

 

I purchased a number of pretty good and inexpensive eyepieces from Bill back in the day, and I still have a very nice pair of 25x100 binoculars he produced. The vaporware apparently was due to QC issues.



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Posted 17 May 2018 - 02:10 AM

The vaporware apparently was due to QC issues.

 

One of the first BO debacles was their 102mm F/6 achromat. There were many issues, many promises made and not kept and all the while starting another ,even bigger project that eventually fell through, the 4 inch Backpacker. Astronomics advertised it heavily in S&T but it was vaporware.  I think BO lost credibility with the vendors after that..

 

Hopefully BO will be providing Thomas Back's family with compensation for using his design..  

 

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 02:31 AM

Many years ago, I ordered a 10mm eyepiece from Burgess Optical and paid half the price in advance. I had a call from Bill today, and the eyepiece will be shipped in a few weeks. There are aspheric lenses, and he said that QC issues were what took so long to resolve, as aspheric lenses are more difficult to machine. There's a photo of the eyepiece in his web site, burgessoptical.com. There will be other focal lenghths available over the next year.

 

Bill has always been an innovator and I appreciate what he has done.

They don't realy machine molded plastic aspheric elements, if that's what he's using, like so many camera lens makers do today.  But if he's grinding glass aspheres for real, they eyepieces will be expensive.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:22 AM

I'll believe it when someone has one in their hand.

Looks promising so lets hope!

Not a concern for me....not even remotely interested. :lol:


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:38 AM

Not a concern for me....not even remotely interested. lol.gif

Same for me, but it would be nice for those interested for this to follow through (still have strong doubts).



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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:42 AM

Same for me, but it would be nice for those interested for this to follow through (still have strong doubts).

Hope it happens for them !   However, from past posts / experiences, it doesn't look too promising, lol.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:51 AM

The 30mm 80* eyepiece pictured has absolutely no distortion edge-to-edge according to Bill. We shall see.

In what telescope?

 

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:59 AM

In what telescope?

 

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Technically, astigmatism and distortion are two different aberrations..

 

I'm not holding my breath.

 

Jon


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 10:00 AM

I see on his website that he lists a 91mm f/7.68 fluorite doublet with a lanthenum element for under $900.  Does anyone have any experience or has owned this scope?  I’ve never heard anything about it until I looked on the BO website yesterday.

 

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 01:12 AM

They don't realy machine molded plastic aspheric elements, if that's what he's using, like so many camera lens makers do today.  But if he's grinding glass aspheres for real, they eyepieces will be expensive.

The are ground and polished glass according Bill.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 01:14 AM

In what telescope?

 

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He did not specify the telescope. He might be aware that I have an f/4.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:41 AM

He did not specify the telescope. He might be aware that I have an f/4.

 

 

The 30mm 80* eyepiece pictured has absolutely no distortion edge-to-edge according to Bill.

 

In an F/4 Newtonian, one would have to correct the coma to see it the eyepiece were truly free of aberrations edge to edge.  The 31mm Nagler does a pretty good job in my F/4.06..  

 

Distortion is another issue.  It's not possible for an 80 degree eyepiece to be free of some form of distortion, at least that is my understanding. it's a mapping problem.

 

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 07:56 AM

Hope it happens for them !   However, from past posts / experiences, it doesn't look too promising, lol.

Same here. Every time I hear the words "Burgess Optical", I get nervous and start looking for the exit. 

 

Too many words; not enough deliveries.

 

Ron


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 09:57 AM

In what telescope?

 

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Prob an f/20 Mak lol


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 09:59 AM

The are ground and polished glass according Bill.

30mm eyepiece @ 80° in an f/4 telescope, sharp out to the edges?

 

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