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My Oberwerk 15x70s arrived! (Or did they.....?)

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#1 Bill Grass

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 09:37 PM

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They were waiting for me when I got home from work today. I thought they hadn't even shipped yet! Apparently, the BigBinoculars.com Web site isn't updated with shipping information too often. Oh, well. It was a pleasant surprise!

Man, these things are BIG! They're much bigger & heavier than my 2 Ultima binoculars. I had an opportunity to give 'em a go tonight.

I'm hooked on binocular astronomy now! I mounted the 15x70s on an old tripod that I have & took a brief tour of the sky before the moon rose. The Pleiades looked fabulous, even in twilight! Jupiter was a distinct sphere & I saw 3 moons. Saturn showed just the slightest hint of its rings, and I also glimpsed Titan. The Beehive cluster looked very big & impressive. The optics seem excellent, and there's very little distortion at the edges of the field. I also saw very, very little chromatic abberation around Venus & Sirius.

After spending some time with the 15x70s, I pulled out my 10x50s & 8x56s for comparison. As far as comfort (hand-holding & eye placement), the Ultimas win by far. Of course, they're much lighter than the Oberwerks. But my eyes fit very comfortably within the rubber eyecups of both Ultimas. They didn't fit as well on the Oberwerks (even after adjusting the IPD). Also, the views in each of the 3 binoculars weren't extremely different, other than magnification. But I definitely blame this on light pollution, a bit of sunlight remaining, and the moon rising. I'm really anxious to compare them under really dark, moonless skies.

I'm happy with my new toy! :jump:

Update:

Wrong binocs!! Read below.

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 09:41 PM

Cool! :cool: I love my 15x70s! They bring objects in enough to really make a difference. I love the view of M45 in mine!

Enjoy, Bill!

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 09:44 PM

Bill,
Congratulations on your new binoculars. Here is hoping that you have many a good night traveling the stars with them.
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Posted 05 April 2004 - 09:44 PM

Thanks, Tom & Dan! :D

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 09:52 PM

Bill; for me I rolled the eye cups back so they may as well not be on the binocular and pop my head right up against the binos. I get that walking in space feeling you get with panoptics or naglers in a bino-viewer (only with less magnification).

Now you just need a nice observing bino-chair to mount them on! :)

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 09:59 PM

I'll try that, Ron!

You know anybody who could build me a nice bino-chair? :whistle:

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 10:04 PM

The eyecups on my Burgess are very soft...are the Obies hard?

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 10:17 PM

Congratulations, Bill! When I first received my 15x70mm Oberwerk binoculars, I thought they were small! :roflmao:

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 10:24 PM

Ah, nice or binochair, you can have one or the other....I need to start on the bis and work on the center post idea a bit. May end up selling plans once that is worked out.

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 10:46 PM

Tom: I wouldn't say "hard," but they're definitely not as soft as the cups on my Ultimas. The Ultimas are very comfortable!

Daniel: :bigshock:

Ron: Cool!

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 10:51 PM

Bill

Congratulations on the new bino's.

What can of tripod did you mount on?

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 10:56 PM

Thanks, Mike! I have an old Velbon VGB-3C that I "borrowed" from my dad years ago. It's a little on the short side, but it works great if I'm sitting.

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 11:02 PM

Is it a regular photo tripod? The reason I ask is I have a photo tripod and was wondering how well it would work. It just seems it would be a little hard on the neck for looking overhead.

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 12:27 AM


This isn't a 15x70...it's an 11x70!!!! They sent me the wrong model!! :mad: :mad: Now I feel 100% embarrassed that I didn't even notice earlier! :o Before I even pulled the binocs out of the box, I saw that the sticker on the box said 15x70. I just looked on the binocs themselves & saw 11x70. It jumped out at me & I felt like I just went through a time warp or something!

I just sent an e-mail to BigBinoculars.com so I can get a RA or whatever I need in order to swap these for the correct model.

Of all the crummy luck.... :mad:

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 12:31 AM

Mike, yep, it's just a regular ol' photo tripod. It's probably not the best thing to use (as I said, it's okay as long as I'm sitting) and it could cause some neck strain after a lot of viewing, but it certainly holds the binocs well (even though they're the wrong ones!! ) and allows for nice, steady views.

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 01:18 AM


This isn't a 15x70...it's an 11x70!!!! They sent me the wrong model!! :mad: :mad: Now I feel 100% embarrassed that I didn't even notice earlier! :o Before I even pulled the binocs out of the box, I saw that the sticker on the box said 15x70. I just looked on the binocs themselves & saw 11x70. It jumped out at me & I felt like I just went through a time warp or something!

I just sent an e-mail to BigBinoculars.com so I can get a RA or whatever I need in order to swap these for the correct model.

Of all the crummy luck.... :mad:




HOLY HEART ATTACK....Bill, just keep the 11X70 and order the 20X80...!!

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 08:27 AM

:lol: Good idea!

Actually, Kevin replied to my e-mail & told me he'd ship out the 15x70s today & give me a pre-paid UPS return label for the 11x70s. Once again, astronomy-related customer service gets high grades!! :waytogo: :waytogo:

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 08:46 AM

When I read, >Saturn showed just the slightest hint of its rings, and I also glimpsed Titan.<, I thought at the time that the 15x70s should do a tad better than that.

I use to have a pair of Obie 15x70s and I could usually make out at least a bit of ring separation. But then when I read that you received the 11x70s in error I felt that was probably the reason for the "ears" on Saturn instead of seeing "rings". On the other hand, there are other variables so "ears" may be the best you will get.

At any rate, great story Bill and it will remind me to check and make sure I get what I purchase (for as long as my memory will allow anyway :) ).

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 08:54 AM

Thanks, Nick! Yeah, I guess that also explains why I didn't see a huge overall difference in views between those & my 10x50s! :o

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 08:57 AM

Bill, the eyecups on my Skymasters are a bit "stiff". I keep them rolled back so that there's about 5, or 6mm out(this is one of the presets). This works well with my glasses. I may be missing a little fov, but (I know Kenny J, I know) it eliminates the bright ring around the fov on bright objects. Must be the excellent baffling don't y'know. Dry sarcasm graemlin? Pete

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 09:49 AM

Bill

Thanks. I might have to get a mount for my bino's and give it a try.

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 10:04 AM

Bill, Sounds like Oberwerks is going to make it right. Hey, since you have a chance to do it, do a comparison of the 11x70s and 15x70s when you get them both. Keep the 11's an extra day if you have to. FOV, depth, etc...great chance for a comparison!

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 11:03 AM

Bill,
You got a free test run with the 11x70's, and you still get your 15x70's. You are lucky... :lol:
Free bino rental - you scammer. :grin:
Glad it worked out for you.

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 11:53 AM


Bill


Since the 15X70 will be tripod mounted go another $50 bucks and get the 20X80LW ... :cool:






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Posted 06 April 2004 - 12:13 PM

:lol: Y'all are funny!

I'll definitely compare the 11x70 & 15x70 when I have both of them.


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