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My Oberwerk 15x70s arrived! (Or did they.....?)

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 09:11 AM

Congrats on the new binos. Hope you have a great time with them.

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Posted 08 April 2004 - 12:15 AM

Thanks, David!

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Posted 08 April 2004 - 05:36 PM

Okay, the true 15x70s are here! They were waiting for me when I got home from work. Right away, I noticed that the coatings on the 15x70s seemed better than on the 11x70s. The eyepieces & objectives show much more green on the 15s. Also, the eyecups are much softer on the 15s than on the 11s. They seem more comfortable to use than the 11s.

I was outside a little earlier spying on some high-flying jets. MAN, these binos bring those planes in closer! I could almost make out which airlines they belonged to. I'm sure I probably could have if I had the binocs mounted. (Maybe one was Jim in his 777 flying to Europe! :grin:)

Anyway, I'm anxious to give the new 15s their ultimate test: under the stars. Speaking of that, for some odd reason it's really nice today! Where are the overcast skies??

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Posted 08 April 2004 - 07:01 PM

There here in Utah, but there headed your way.

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Posted 08 April 2004 - 07:37 PM

Bill,
I took the hit for the bad weather so you could view tonight. GA just got nailed by the weather. Have fun tonight Sir. Go enjoy those 15x70's - you have been waiting long enough.
:waytogo: :waytogo: :waytogo:

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Posted 08 April 2004 - 08:15 PM

Don't forget to give us a comparison. Bill...I hope they are great glasses for you and enjoy them...I love my cheap, awesome 15x70s!!!

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Posted 09 April 2004 - 12:11 AM



And we're waiting, patiently for the review... :)

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Posted 09 April 2004 - 10:32 AM

Bill, anytime now. :grin:

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Posted 09 April 2004 - 12:37 PM

There ain't nothin' like waiting for a new "toy" to arrive and get home and it's there.

Enjoy! btw... we have some of that rain here in W TX as well... kinda strange for us... been so much drought for the last few years. It's a possibility that we might even get some snow flurries this weekend. Really weird.

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Posted 09 April 2004 - 01:49 PM

Okay! I did a very brief comparison of the 15s & the 11s last night. It was pretty cloudy, but there were just enough holes to allow me to look at some stuff.

The 15s just seem to be an all-around better binocular. As I said, the eyecups are much softer, so viewing through them is more comfortable than through the 11s. As I mentioned, the 15s seem to have better coating ("broadband fully multi-coated") than the 11s ("fully multi-coated"), so I compared the two on a streetlight near my house. The 11s showed a LOT of reflected light (or scattered light...I'm not sure which one is more correct) from the bright streetlight. I found it very distracting. The 15s showed much less reflection, but there was still a little there. (My Ultima 10x50s showed almost no reflection, by the way.)

In the sky, I was able to split Mizar through the 15s mounted on a tripod, while I couldn't with the 11s. The slightly higher power of the 15s also seemed to pull in more faint stars than the 11s. An open cluster in Auriga (I'm not sure which one, since I was just "cruising" the sky) was semi-resolved in the 15s while the 11s showed a misty patch.

Jupiter was a very obvious disk in both binocs, but the 15s showed all 4 Galilean moons lined up on one side of the planet. The 11s showed only 2 or 3. (This was handheld, now. I'm sure if I looked at Jupiter with the binocs mounted, I would have been able to see all 4 moons through both.)

The Beehive Cluster was very impressive through the 15s. It seemed much brighter & showed fainter stars than through the 11s.

The FOV of the 11s is slightly larger, but not really enough to make a drastic difference. The 3 stars of Orion's belt were visible in the FOV of the 15s.

I was able to hand-hold the 15s for a lot of sky-sweeping, but my arms did get tired pretty quickly. To really examine detail, mounting the binocs on my tripod was so much better.

That's really about all I was able to do. I'll be shipping the 11s back to Oberwerk today, probably.

Oh, one final note: the Oberwerk 15x70s are very good binoculars, especially for the price! However, the overall views just didn't seem quite as sharp as those through my Ultima 10x50s. Stars weren't as tack sharp. But I'm not going to complain about that. I'm very pleased!

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Posted 09 April 2004 - 01:56 PM

Great report, Bill!

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Posted 09 April 2004 - 02:01 PM

Bill,
I enjoyed your report. Sounds like you have a winning combination between the Celestron Ultima's and Oberwerks.
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Posted 09 April 2004 - 05:58 PM

Very nice report Sir. :waytogo:
That was good info on the fainter stars being visible in the 15's.
Glad they work well for you.

Scott

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Posted 09 April 2004 - 07:28 PM

Thanks, y'all! :)

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Posted 10 April 2004 - 08:28 PM

Thanks for the report, Bill.

My sister wanted to see the "7 sisters," but the it's been cloudy here (they look awesome through my 9x60s on a mount). Might even get some snow flurries by Monday morning. Weird, for here to say the least.

I noticed your use of y'all... do you have some Texan in you? I've been known to say "All y'all" That really is southern. :lol:

May Clear Skies head your way.

David

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Posted 10 April 2004 - 11:38 PM

Hi, David. Nope, I'm all Louisianian. :grin: But I have been saying "y'all" all my life. I say "all y'all" and "all of y'all" at times, too!

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Posted 11 April 2004 - 01:06 AM

I guess that's better than "yous guys"...

I bet I just started a flame war :foreheadslap:

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Posted 11 April 2004 - 08:48 AM

David,
Y'all stretches all the way to MS... :grin:

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Posted 11 April 2004 - 11:10 AM

I remember the first time I was in the south. I little place cause Goldsburo, NC. Not sure I spelled it right. Anyway I went into a store and a worker said, hi y'all doing. I started looking around to see who else he was talking to. Then he said you must not be from around here. Then I spoke, and he knew for sure.

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Posted 11 April 2004 - 11:51 AM

We're off topic, folks.

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Posted 11 April 2004 - 03:11 PM

Thanks Tom.

Bill,
When is your next bino adventure with the 15x70's?
When can we expect the next report?

Scott

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Posted 11 April 2004 - 03:15 PM

Bill,
What tripod are you using with the 15x70's? I am looking at getting the $119.00 bogen combo from Oberwerks. It would hold my 11x56's with ease.

Scott

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Posted 12 April 2004 - 12:21 AM

Scott, I'm using an old Velbon camera tripod right now. It does a good enough job, but it can't get the binocs high enough for viewing while standing. But while I'm seated, it works okay. I'm tempted to get one of those parallelogram mounts!

Maybe I'll get a chance Monday night to "play" with the 15x70s again if the weather's good. I may do a full review (or more accurately, an account of my experiences & reactions :grin:) of them for Cloudy Nights.

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Posted 12 April 2004 - 12:26 AM

Bill,
You qualify for "review" status. I on the other hand am the "experiences and reactions" guy...

Scott

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Posted 12 April 2004 - 12:27 AM

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