Have now read all 35 pages of this thread.. First thought is that the sample size is far far too small yet to make any final decisions on this scope. There are questions about which may or may not be early runs, may or may not be subject to further change, which glass, what wave (I'm reading everything from 1/3 to as much as 1/8th). There's just not enough out there to really determine what's real, what's uncertain, etc.. And yes I know I'm putting aside the shipping issues which are likely being addressed for a moment..
The other side of this (and some may relate) is that this thread reminds of some threads about LG OLED sets vs. Samsungs vs. Sony's, etc.. or an audiophile thread on which stylus is the best for rock, jazz, blues, MM (or not), preamps, what's the best surface for a platter, leather? cork?, etc.. The point being is that despite all the tested numbers of this cartridge/stylus or that cartridge/stylus, everyone's hearing is a little different and that someone sitting right next to you listening to the same music won't hear what you hear. It doesn't matter if a stylus is supposed to be better at delivering a frequency or not.. if you can't hear that difference, you just can't hear it. Clearly there is a difference between a $10 stylus and a $500 stylus but narrow that gap and what some may deem significant, others may say "I don't hear any difference". No where in those threads, many times, are people talking about the condition of the vinyl, what speakers are used, what amp (or preamp) is being used, etc.. It's a war about one piece in what is a myriad of other things that affect the sounds heard.
Not much different than looking through a scope. We are all different. Our vision (for the most part) is different. Want a huge example? Ask someone who has had cataract surgery what the impact was to their ability to see color again after the surgery. Whites had been like looking through a yellow filter and I never realized it until after the surgery. Some have sharper vision than others, some have color deficiencies (myself included). Now, let's throw in atmospheric conditions, your own latitude vs. someone else and what that does to planetary viewing, seeing, transparency, etc.. They ALL make the experience different from one person to another.
At the equipment level. The EVOStar 150 (as Kevin Legore has repeated stated it) was made to be a very good "affordable" (and in quotes because affordable is different to each of us) 6" Doublet Refractor. It wasn't made to compete with Taks, APs, etc.. heck probably not even made to compete with Esprits. Those that are looking for 98.xxxx Strehl levels before they consider a scope certainly have that right but there comes a point when you have to also ask yourself... "Am I on a mountain top in Chile where I'm going to see a significant difference between a 98+ strehl scope and a 96+ strehl or a (fill in the blank strehl) scope?" OR "I'm in New England and I'd be glad if I could just get a clear night where the humidity isn't so high that the equipment is dripping in dew 5 minutes after being out!!"
Last point (sorry if some feel this is a rant or soapbox) .. The SW 150 is a heck of a lot better than a Sears 80mm refractor with the altitude rod on the side that never stayed together and it's not in the class (or price point) of a 6" Tak (or again even an Esprit) .. BUT my first telescope was one of those 80mm refractors and I loved it. People reading some of these forums are incredibly happy with their scopes and then they read some of these threads, and what was perhaps an emerging thrill or dream come true is turned into “Did I make a bad mistake” or worse they now forget why they were excited to begin with and all they start to worry about now are speeds and feeds.
That’s NOT what the hobby is about. It’s not about my scope is bigger, badder, better than your scope. What it’s about is (or should be?) is positive education and not derailing someone’s dream come true, as I said.
It's about helping someone feel good about the equipment they have and how to maximize the use of it (remember, it may be all that person can EVER afford). The SW 150 has a place in the line up of scopes. We know Kevin takes his job (in the USA) very seriously. I’m sure he conveys what’s here, but I do think CN has, in a lot of ways, become far more negative than it needs to be, or should be.
Let’s try to remember how we felt the first time we looked into the eyepiece of our own scope - no matter how big, what sterhl, whose eyepiece we used, etc..
By the way.. Want to test yourself for your own color vision, try this.. Maybe you’ll wonder if you “missing” something with Alberio now. :-) and remember to the person next to you it may look TOTALLY different!!!
Edited by JayS_CT, 28 August 2018 - 07:28 PM.