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#1 oldmanrick

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Posted 25 August 2018 - 09:56 AM

Markus Ludes has posted an update in the vendors forum, with pictures of external parts and casting forms.

 

Also announced prices for the two models: FK 61 glass, (similar to FPL 51), version will be U.S. $7990. and FPL 55 version will be U.S. $10,990.

 

He hopes to have prototype of FK 61 version, (now being assembled), in hand in around two weeks.

 

Clear Skies!

 

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Posted 25 August 2018 - 10:26 AM

Now I see I'm a vendor, that seems to mean I can't say whatever I want to say though I am not carrying anything at the moment.

I'll abide by the rules of conduct so I have to edit this post.

...But this is truly a magnificent product.


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Posted 25 August 2018 - 11:50 AM

You are from Shanghai/ China ; all stuff we buy is made in China, that's makes you a Vendor, and us consumers tongue2.gif

 

On topic:

For less then $8000,= I would make a 152mm F#5.9 binocular telescope with EMS system including mount.

With the EMS I can always upgrade the optical tubes: for $ 8500.= you have the SW 150 EVO or the APM 152 ED with 2" EMS, (ex mount)

 

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Edited by garret, 25 August 2018 - 11:59 AM.


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Posted 25 August 2018 - 01:06 PM

Is FPL 55 really necessary for what I imagine is a small improvement in CA?. On a system that probably has it controlled very well to began with. At $3,000 additional cost???

 

Someone enlighten me.......



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Posted 25 August 2018 - 02:54 PM

 

...But this is truly a magnificent product.

 

I am not at all surprised by the price.  

In 2003 (15 years ago) I paid $8000 for my Fujinon 25x150MT with P-Mount and tripod.

With this one gets 45 degrees,  interchangeable EPs , updated optics and coatings.

A lot of money-yes; but a lot of scopes also.

 

This is what everyone has been asking for.

 

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Posted 25 August 2018 - 07:27 PM

I am not at all surprised by the price.  
In 2003 (15 years ago) I paid $8000 for my Fujinon 25x150MT with P-Mount and tripod.
With this one gets 45 degrees,  interchangeable EPs , updated optics and coatings.
A lot of money-yes; but a lot of scopes also.
 
This is what everyone has been asking for.
 
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Asking/Wishing is not the same as being able to afford/Actually purchasing.
Although I would love to have, I would have to win the lottery first, or buy used.
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#7 oldmanrick

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Posted 25 August 2018 - 11:06 PM

I've always said "where there is a will there is a way".  In my case, winning the lottery would sure help, but I have some toys that don't get used much, and by selling off some of them and  doing some extra saving, I could possibly swing it.

 

As to whether the FPL 55 version will be worth it, for me the decision will have to wait until I can read some side by side tests, or at least good unbiased user reports about the capabilities of each version.  Right now my guess is that I would go for the FPL 55, as it should have less CA, and probably better high magnification capabilities.  When spending this much for an instrument, why not get the best?  After a few years that $3000. wouldn't look so large.

 

Even if I will never own one of these, I get a lot of enjoyment in anticipating them coming on market and then reading user/tester reports about them, then scheming ways to be able to purchase one. 


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Posted 26 August 2018 - 04:20 AM

I've always said "where there is a will there is a way".

 

 

 

In my experience, when one has a dream that is more or less realistic

and they keep working toward it, they are likely to succeed

they do not succeed with they give up or are diverted to an alternative

 

are 150mm binoculars realistic-yes

are they practical-not really

can 100mms do the job-usually, for most

 

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edj


Edited by edwincjones, 26 August 2018 - 04:26 AM.

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Posted 26 August 2018 - 04:30 PM

Iā€™m becoming sorely tempted by these!



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Posted 26 August 2018 - 07:02 PM

Is FPL 55 really necessary for what I imagine is a small improvement in CA?. On a system that probably has it controlled very well to began with. At $3,000 additional cost???

 

Someone enlighten me.......

Probably it would got a better glass aside improved CA correction 

 

Even if not is the case I guess this binos are able to work in high mags and the higher the mags the higher the CA so maybe FK61 will show some CA while 55 none. And that none may be a significant difference

 

However is a great move from achro to ED (as usuall) to ED to APO

 

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 04:27 AM

I think oldmanrick is right in post #7

if you are going to spend that much money, then go for the best.

If you settle for 51 glass, you will always wish for the 55

 

edj


Edited by edwincjones, 27 August 2018 - 04:28 AM.

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 03:39 PM

My parabolic cost curve analysis was pretty close.  choo-choo.gif

 

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 05:10 PM

Lots of money, but as other "big boy's toys" go, pretty reasonable.

 

If you want an expensive hobby, get into race cars.


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Posted 27 August 2018 - 05:22 PM

Lots of money, but as other "big boy's toys" go, pretty reasonable.

 

If you want an expensive hobby, get into race cars.

could have gotten a 62 GTO for only $48,000,000 yesterday

 

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 05:30 PM

If you want an expensive hobby, get into race cars.

No Sweat...

 

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 05:33 PM

Opps....I just had an orgasm.

 

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 08:04 PM

Lots of money, but as other "big boy's toys" go, pretty reasonable.

 

If you want an expensive hobby, get into race cars.

Been there, done that.  Did it on the cheap too, but I still couldn't afford it. 



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Posted 27 August 2018 - 09:16 PM

I imagine it will be a few thousand to suitably mount it. So base price $11,000. Not race car territory, but definitely a good used Subaru Outback.šŸ˜‰

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 09:30 PM

Not race car territory, but definitely a good used Subaru Outback.

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 04:42 AM

no thanks, I do not like the color

 

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 04:52 AM

So now we have proven to ourselves that the 150s are cheap, at least compared to racing cars;

so lets take it a step further.

Assuming binoculars, mount, all the EPs  = $15,000;

one uses it two hours a week for ten years  =  1000 hours

only $15/hour       bow.gif

 

waytogo.gif  cheap entertainment   waytogo.gif

 

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 10:29 AM

$15000.=...that's a trip around the world:  the sky of Hawaii, Namibia desert, Atacama desert in Chile, Australia... smile.gif

I already own the APM 100 APO which fit nicely in a pelican case... wink.gif I only need a compact heavy duty video mount and foldable chair laugh.gif


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Posted 28 August 2018 - 10:44 AM

"Here the 90 degree version for 1 1/4 eyepieces" which I recently made...grin.gif 

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 10:56 AM

By making them myself using second hand but good components, not one of my 150mm binocular telescopes has cost more than $1500 including the mounts. OK they're achromats but at the low powers for which such instruments are best suited they leave little to be desired. I have a 80mmED version that will do 200x if I need magnification.
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Posted 28 August 2018 - 03:54 PM

I think this binocular is a superior instrument for wildlife observation in twilight times

It will be able to uncover some secrets of the sky and the earth!


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