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#1 TonyMan

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 09:15 AM

Just wondering if anyone has purchased one yet and their experience with it. I read through their marketing info and was also wondering if it has threads for a 2” sleeve for use with a 2” focuser.


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Posted 31 August 2018 - 09:43 AM

I think you'll find that the majority of this forum prefers the Baader Hyperion Zoom and generally considers Orion branded eyepieces overprice for what they are.The Hyperion can definitely be used as either a 2" or 1.25".

 

I'm not trying to be harsh. But the choices in zooms are wide.

https://agenaastro.c...-eyepieces.html

 

I currently use a Celestron 8-24mm zoom and it's not bad. I may upgrade to the Hyperion if I feel the need.


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Posted 31 August 2018 - 10:06 AM

You think $65 is overpriced for a zoom eyepiece? If it's comparable to my Meade (which I think works great) that's a really good price. 

 

I'd also like to get a Baader someday. 


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Posted 31 August 2018 - 10:38 AM

You think $65 is overpriced for a zoom eyepiece? If it's comparable to my Meade (which I think works great) that's a really good price.

I'd also like to get a Baader someday.



I'm pretty sure he's talking about the new Lanthanum zoom. It's 200 bucks.

I have a celestron zoom and like it. Very convenient. My Baader is scheduled for delivery today.
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Posted 31 August 2018 - 10:54 AM

Looking at the Orion Lanthanum specs I see that it is parafocal, which is nice; cheaper zooms require refocusing as you zoom. However, I also see that the field of view diminishes as you zoom in; that is the opposite of what you want. As magnification increases, tracking becomes more problematic and any widening of the field can only help. Both the Baader and the el-cheapo Celestron increase the FOV as you zoom in.


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Posted 31 August 2018 - 10:58 AM

Looking at the Orion Lanthanum specs I see that it is parafocal, which is nice; cheaper zooms require refocusing as you zoom. However, I also see that the field of view diminishes as you zoom in; that is the opposite of what you want. As magnification increases, tracking becomes more problematic and any widening of the field can only help. Both the Baader and the el-cheapo Celestron increase the FOV as you zoom in.

The Lanthanum Zoom is 40* at 24mm and 60* at 8mm just like most other zooms function. I think the hope is this zoom slots into the mid market between the basic Celestron and Baader level zooms.


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Posted 31 August 2018 - 11:19 AM

I would love to read a review.   I love zoom lenses.

 

I always recommend posting a link to the product being discussed.  As it usually the case when this is not done, people comment on the one they THINK is being discussed rather than the one being asked about. 

 

Orion 8-24mm Pro Lanthanum Zoom Eyepiece - $199

https://www.telescop...47/p/130974.uts

https://www.youtube....h?v=CaJHqa1bnlg

 

 

Design Proprietary
Eyepiece focal length 8.0mm - 24.0mm 
Barrel size 1.25"
Apparent field of view 40.0° - 60.0°
Eye relief 20.0mm
Coatings Fully multi-coated
Number of elements 8
Filter threads Yes
Parfocal Yes
Barrel security recess Yes
Blackened lens edges No
Rubber eyeguards Yes
Body material Aluminum
Case No Weight (oz.) 11
Dimensions 3.9 in. x 2.0 in.
Warranty One year

 

The distinguishing feature of this zoom to others is the type of glass, Lanthanum.   They claim it to be Parfocal as well.  

 

Odd that the edges are not blackened.  Do we think that is a typo?

 

I would love to read a review.   I love zoom lenses. 


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Posted 31 August 2018 - 11:26 AM

I would love to read a review.   I love zoom lenses.

 

I always recommend posting a link to the product being discussed.  As it usually the case when this is not done, people comment on the one they THINK is being discussed rather than the one being asked about. 

 

Orion 8-24mm Pro Lanthanum Zoom Eyepiece - $199

https://www.telescop...47/p/130974.uts

https://www.youtube....h?v=CaJHqa1bnlg

 

 

Design Proprietary
Eyepiece focal length 8.0mm - 24.0mm 
Barrel size 1.25"
Apparent field of view 40.0° - 60.0°
Eye relief 20.0mm
Coatings Fully multi-coated
Number of elements 8
Filter threads Yes
Parfocal Yes
Barrel security recess Yes
Blackened lens edges No
Rubber eyeguards Yes
Body material Aluminum
Case No Weight (oz.) 11
Dimensions 3.9 in. x 2.0 in.
Warranty One year

 

The distinguishing feature of this zoom to others is the type of glass, Lanthanum.   They claim it to be Parfocal as well.  

 

Odd that the edges are not blackened.  Do we think that is a typo?

 

I would love to read a review.   I love zoom lenses. 

Same here! I'm new to the hobby, but I love the convenience. I also await a review.



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Posted 31 August 2018 - 11:49 AM

I would love to read a review.   I love zoom lenses.

 

I always recommend posting a link to the product being discussed.  As it usually the case when this is not done, people comment on the one they THINK is being discussed rather than the one being asked about. 

 

Orion 8-24mm Pro Lanthanum Zoom Eyepiece - $199

https://www.telescop...47/p/130974.uts

https://www.youtube....h?v=CaJHqa1bnlg

 

 

Design Proprietary
Eyepiece focal length 8.0mm - 24.0mm 
Barrel size 1.25"
Apparent field of view 40.0° - 60.0°
Eye relief 20.0mm
Coatings Fully multi-coated
Number of elements 8
Filter threads Yes
Parfocal Yes
Barrel security recess Yes
Blackened lens edges No
Rubber eyeguards Yes
Body material Aluminum
Case No Weight (oz.) 11
Dimensions 3.9 in. x 2.0 in.
Warranty One year

 

The distinguishing feature of this zoom to others is the type of glass, Lanthanum.   They claim it to be Parfocal as well.  

 

Odd that the edges are not blackened.  Do we think that is a typo?

 

I would love to read a review.   I love zoom lenses. 

Not the only Lanthanum zoom. The Vixen LV has Lanthanum, but I can recommend the Pentax XL as best 8 to 24. https://www.firstlig...-24mm-zoom.html The Pentax also has Lanthanum, and is JIS weatherproof in addition to great optics (for its spotting scope role). It fills the gaps and beyond in my XL/XW mini range. Chunky and easy to use with gloved hands.  


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Posted 31 August 2018 - 12:41 PM

It would be nice to have zoom eyepiece comparative reviews; "shootouts". 


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Posted 03 September 2018 - 04:06 PM

Thanks for all the info. I agree that they misstated the FOV because that sounded a little strange to me. I too would like to see a review by someone other than the manufacturer. I missed out on a great deal recently. At our club's yearly auction there was a Televue with clickstops at 8, 12, 16, 24. It went for about $130, I shoulda stayed in the bidding! That Baader looks good, but am trying to find out if it's really worth $90 more than the Orion one. I own a couple of Baaders, but thought that a zoom eyepiece would be kinda nice, especially for public outreach.


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Posted 03 September 2018 - 04:14 PM

It would be nice to have zoom eyepiece comparative reviews; "shootouts". 

 

I tend to research deeply before I buy.  And once I buy I tend to continue to research what I have to see if there are reasons to change.

 

Here are the best I can offer:

 

 

Baader zoom vs. Leica Zoom
https://www.cloudyni...es-baader-zoom/

 

Pentax XW vs. baader zoom
https://www.cloudyni...l=+baader +zoom

 

 

Zeiss Zoom ( $645)  Swarovski Zoom ($729) Leica ($850)  comparison
Note these are spotting scope eyepieces adapted for telescope use.
https://www.cloudyni...-zoom-eyepiece/

 

 

Old, but perhaps of interest:

zoom eyepiece review – Includes Celestron review
http://www.chuckhawk...m_eyepieces.htm
http://www.cloudynig...del-93230-r2106

 

 

How People use Zoom Eyepieces as Part of the Observing Process
https://www.cloudyni...erving-process/


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Posted 04 September 2018 - 03:12 PM

Thanks Ed!

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Posted 04 September 2018 - 03:37 PM

The Vixen LV uses the same optics as made for TV's 8-24mm, by them. 

 

Pentax XL is also a spotting scope zoom. XF is the kit zoom, XL is with top models, and for upgrading to. 


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Posted 06 September 2018 - 08:36 AM

aeajr, thank you. Looks like I’ve got some reading to do.



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Posted 06 September 2018 - 12:15 PM

I own the following spotter:

http://www.longperng...act=view&no=191

 

with the very eyepiece discussed:

http://www.longperng...act=view&no=192

 

I´d say this eyepiece is definately worth a try as astronomical ep cause the whole spotter leaves a more than pleasant impression in terms of mechanical quality, sharpness and edge definition. Can´t try it out for you cause mine has a female thread and no nosepiece.

 

Regards, Martin


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Posted 28 September 2018 - 04:32 PM

Did anyone take the leap and buy an Orion 8-24mm Pro Lanthanum Zoom Eyepiece?   

 

I am dying for a report.



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Posted 30 September 2018 - 09:11 AM

The way I see it we will have 3 possible outcomes lol.gif

 

#1. Someone will come out of the shadows and report on this, as of now, mysterious zoom.  The truth is out there

 

#2. The burning desire for Ed to know about said mysterious zoom will drive him to put this on his holiday wish list. Dropping not so subtle hints to his family and friends.

 

#3. We will need to start a go fund me page for Ed so we can have our resident zoom evangelist report on this zoom eyepiece for the benefit of our community 


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Posted 30 September 2018 - 09:37 AM

I think what you are seeing is what was old is new again, like in the past Orion had Vixen make some of there wide field EP's, they had a Orion version of the Vixen Ultra wide's out for years, price a little less and they sold many of these ep's. They also had a copy of the Hyperion series WF ep's as well. Today the introduce a new zoom with the same glass configuration then the Vixen/TV 8-24 zoom with 8 elements plus Lanthanum glass, it maybe looks slightly different but I would bet its the same plus I would also think at the $200 price tag it's country of origin is Japan.

The newer cheaper Celestron and Meade zooms are cheaper China made knock offs which for the low price of admission are not too bad.


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Posted 30 September 2018 - 01:48 PM

I would love to read a review.   I love zoom lenses.

 

I always recommend posting a link to the product being discussed.  As it usually the case when this is not done, people comment on the one they THINK is being discussed rather than the one being asked about. 

 

Orion 8-24mm Pro Lanthanum Zoom Eyepiece - $199

https://www.telescop...47/p/130974.uts

https://www.youtube....h?v=CaJHqa1bnlg

 

 

Design Proprietary
Eyepiece focal length 8.0mm - 24.0mm 
Barrel size 1.25"
Apparent field of view 40.0° - 60.0°
Eye relief 20.0mm
Coatings Fully multi-coated
Number of elements 8
Filter threads Yes
Parfocal Yes
Barrel security recess Yes
Blackened lens edges No
Rubber eyeguards Yes
Body material Aluminum
Case No Weight (oz.) 11
Dimensions 3.9 in. x 2.0 in.
Warranty One year

 

The distinguishing feature of this zoom to others is the type of glass, Lanthanum.   They claim it to be Parfocal as well.  

 

Odd that the edges are not blackened.  Do we think that is a typo?

 

I would love to read a review.   I love zoom lenses. 

Looking at the link with the Pro Zoom, my Olivon 8-24mm looks very much like it. Better build than the basic Celestron 8-24mm? Anyone have any ideas on the Olivon? I think there was a review on it some time, but don't remember where?



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Posted 30 September 2018 - 01:56 PM

I own the following spotter:

http://www.longperng...act=view&no=191

 

with the very eyepiece discussed:

http://www.longperng...act=view&no=192

 

I´d say this eyepiece is definately worth a try as astronomical ep cause the whole spotter leaves a more than pleasant impression in terms of mechanical quality, sharpness and edge definition. Can´t try it out for you cause mine has a female thread and no nosepiece.

 

Regards, Martin

That looks like my Olivon zoom that is sold with their higher end spotting scopes????



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Posted 30 September 2018 - 03:32 PM

The Olivon ep is closely related to the Celestron Regal ep.

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Posted 30 September 2018 - 05:31 PM

The way I see it we will have 3 possible outcomes lol.gif

#1. Someone will come out of the shadows and report on this, as of now, mysterious zoom. The truth is out there

#2. The burning desire for Ed to know about said mysterious zoom will drive him to put this on his holiday wish list. Dropping not so subtle hints to his family and friends.

#3. We will need to start a go fund me page for Ed so we can have our resident zoom evangelist report on this zoom eyepiece for the benefit of our community

I like #3. 😀
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Posted 19 November 2018 - 12:02 PM

I saw this discussion earlier. I decided to purchase the Orion Pro Lanthanum Zoom, which I just ordered last night. When I get a chance to test the thing, I will post my results. Admittedly, my equipment is rather limited, since I have only recently re-joined the hobby, but I will post my opinions when I receive it and the weather finally decides to cooperate (which has been infrequent lately!).


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Posted 20 November 2018 - 04:50 PM

I saw this discussion earlier. I decided to purchase the Orion Pro Lanthanum Zoom, which I just ordered last night. When I get a chance to test the thing, I will post my results. Admittedly, my equipment is rather limited, since I have only recently re-joined the hobby, but I will post my opinions when I receive it and the weather finally decides to cooperate (which has been infrequent lately!).

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