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#1 25585

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Posted 11 September 2018 - 04:26 AM

Once upon a time Tele Vue made a 70mm triplet called the Oracle. Does anyone own one?

 

Never seen a TV Oracle, but would be interested to know how it's performance compares with the 76, (Pronto and 85).


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Posted 11 September 2018 - 05:04 AM

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It's a 76mm, 560mm f/7.4 focal length telescope.

I've owned mine for 30 years this very month.

It's a superb 3" refractor that is loaded with CONTRAST!

I make that in capitals because these days all you ever hear is CA.

Nobody ever mentions contrast anymore.

 

I also have a APM/TMB LOMO 80/480 { no slouch of a telescope } and the Oracle 3 beats it on contrast!

Yes the 80/480 is better on CA but the Oracle is better for the likes of Jupiter.

 

Having said all that, Ed Ting has looked through both an Oracle 3 and the TV76 and he says that the TV76 is the better telescope.

 

Providing you find a good sample of either, Oracle 3 or TV76 you will not be disappointed with either.

 

 


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Posted 11 September 2018 - 06:56 AM

I've had a couple of Oracles and both were excellent. The Oracle has better color correction than the Pronto but its almost  indistinguishable from the TV76. Oracles are usually priced lower than the TV76 but much harder to find.


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Posted 11 September 2018 - 08:28 AM

I think everyone wants to win one of the fine TeleVue "Bag of Eyepieces" door prize at Stellafane, but I was far more excited the year Uncle Al donated an Oracle to the raffle. Didn't win, of course.

 

It might be fun to own one, it's a bit of history, but it would certainly be easier to pick up a TV 76.

 

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Posted 11 September 2018 - 09:01 AM

Bought mine gently used 28 years ago. It was missing the standard eyepiece but came with its other accessories and a glass solar filter. Its seen many a photon and shown a countless number of newbie kids and adults the beauty of the Moon and planets.

Will be passed down as an heirloom.

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 04:09 AM

Televue Oracle 3 data plate.

Note the old address.

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 04:10 AM

Televue Oracle 3 with it's screw on, dew shield.

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 04:16 AM

Televue Oracle 3 in original case.

Mine came with a 10.5mm smoothie plossl.

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 05:15 AM

What a beautiful scope you have. Gorgeous. Thanks for sharing these wonderful pictures.
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Posted 12 September 2018 - 06:55 AM

Cheers Erik.
These days I can't take it outside due to siatica, I can only look through windows, but Im content.
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Posted 12 September 2018 - 07:28 AM

Mr Onions - classic TV Oracle with original case - amazing condition !

You have the 1st Oracle version.

The 2nd (later) version has a sliding dewshield and revised focuser "wheels".


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 08:33 AM

I love this original version. Heirloom quality. 


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 10:25 AM

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It's a 76mm, 560mm f/7.4 focal length telescope.

I've owned mine for 30 years this very month.

It's a superb 3" refractor that is loaded with CONTRAST!

I make that in capitals because these days all you ever hear is CA.

Nobody ever mentions contrast anymore.

 

I also have a APM/TMB LOMO 80/480 { no slouch of a telescope } and the Oracle 3 beats it on contrast!

Yes the 80/480 is better on CA but the Oracle is better for the likes of Jupiter.

 

Having said all that, Ed Ting has looked through both an Oracle 3 and the TV76 and he says that the TV76 is the better telescope.

 

Providing you find a good sample of either, Oracle 3 or TV76 you will not be disappointed with either.

 

What a beautiful, classic looking, top performing Tele Vue refractor Mr. Onions, thanks for the lovely pictures!

 

May it bring you many more years of enjoyment! flowerred.gif 


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 11:02 AM

Get well soon Mr. Onions, nothing quite like a nice scope out under the stars!


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 12:10 PM

Televue Oracle 3 with it's screw on, dew shield.

2 Classics there...scope and eyepiece!


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 02:45 PM

Fortunately, I do already have that classic eyepiece.

But that scope and case that came with it for Mr. Onions sure look like wonderful company to it wink.gif


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 06:26 PM

Televue Oracle 3 in original case.
Mine came with a 10.5mm smoothie plossl.


That's interesting. My cutout is the opposite. Objective on the left and diagonal on the right. Did you reverse the image? 😉

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 06:42 PM

A Oracle never crossed my mind or any TV scope for that matter.  Then i saw a thread about a 102 so maybe i will try one out if i can find one under $2k.



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 07:49 PM

That's interesting. My cutout is the opposite. Objective on the left and diagonal on the right. Did you reverse the image?

If it's cut through with a separate lower layer, just flipping it could make that difference.

 

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 08:23 PM

If it's cut through with a separate lower layer, just flipping it could make that difference.

 

Clear skies, Alan

By George I think that's it. I'm pretty sure there is a solid second layer.  In fact, my foam is looking a bit ratty so flipping it will improve the appearance.


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 08:32 PM

Here is a shot of mine from last August.

 

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 10:48 PM

Great thread and I've learned a lot. TV has such an awesome history. Thanks all. I can't think of any negatives saving up a bit longer to purchase a TV scope which I'm in the process of doing now. 


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 10:51 PM

I've never even seen an Oracle but anything TV does is pretty dang cool.  I've owned four of their scopes but have only kept the two in my signature because the 4" refractors were just a bit too big although I have regretted selling my NP101 for years now.


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Posted 13 September 2018 - 01:25 AM

Here is a shot of mine from last August.

 

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Really nice, portable solar setup Auburn80, thanks for sharing the picture! waytogo.gif

 

 

Looking closely at the pictures shown here, it’s interesting to notice that Tele Vue went for a satin black anodized finish with the Oracle3 similar to the one used with their current scopes, instead of the gloss black finish that we normally associate with their older scope models.  I love all TV scopes, but generally prefer the appearance of their older models! love.gif 


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Posted 13 September 2018 - 04:12 AM

No the foam is just like the day I bought it.

I bought it in person right here in Newcastle upon Tyne, from Joe Osborne, of Osborne Optics { long since gone } as far as I know it was the first Oracle 3 in Europe, although I stand to be corrected.

Serial number 1308

That's a great looking setup there Auburn 80.


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