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#51 tim53

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 04:52 PM

The thing I find annoying about the ad is the claim of rarity.  There were very likely many thousands of tricolor C-8s made.  Also, there was a blue and white 8" just before the tricolors.  This one isn't one of the earliest, as it doesn't have the helical focuser, and doesn't appear to have the transition version to the later focuser where they machined off the mount for the helical focuser and put a disk of black anodized aluminum over it to support the visual back and get the back focus distance right.  Tinky (#135) has this.  I haven't had any problems with modern visual backs fitting.  At the current price in the ad, this would be an expensive scope to restore, sadly.  The optics in Tinky are very good, but those in my 1975 are also, as were the ones in a 1979-80 C-8 that I once owned.

 

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 04:58 PM

https://www.cloudyni...actors-fl-102s/

 

 

While I agree with Tim and others on the use or misuses of the word Rare

 

While not rare         I Rarely see   the Vixen 102fl in white and Vixen graygreen   

Lovely scope from extremely knowledgable seller    

 

Read  the ad    more to come      oh my goodness


Edited by Defenderslideguitar, 03 October 2018 - 04:58 PM.

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#53 Defenderslideguitar

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 05:11 PM

And then there is this

 

Jaegar4-f-15

 

 

https://www.cloudyni...r/s............


Edited by Defenderslideguitar, 03 October 2018 - 05:13 PM.

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#54 twhite

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 05:20 PM

An very early C8

https://www.ebay.com...EUAAOSwV45btE5W

The following little notes quotes are in the description, with some comments by me in brackets:

  • "Lens Coating: None, too old, no coatings in 60's" [Is this true?]
  • "Bottom line here, the orange C-8's with no holes in the forks, suck optically." [Um...hmmm....erh.... scratchhead2.gif ]
[“Ignorant people think it is the noise which fighting cats make that is so aggravating, but it ain't so; it is the sickening grammar that they use.”
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  • "This includes the telescope only, no visual back..." [There is an issue with the visual back threading on the older C8's not working well with later C8's. It is a solvable problem, but be aware. Does anyone know if the early early C8's have and even earlier thread on the visual back?]

Next, same seller, a Tuthill C11 dew shield.
https://www.ebay.com...vwAAOSwG3RbtEUv

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The above items are not in California or Florida. lol.gif

Coatings: I believe that's correct that sand-cast C8s did not have coatings.

Optical superiority: that's a strong generalization...

No visual back: could be a problem as I seem to recall that the threading on early scopes was slightly different. I think I have an early vb that I've held on to for precisely that reason...

Chuckle at seller who wants you to think he's very knowledgable about the scope, then calls the synchro motors servos... :lol:

Power cord is easier to replace on that thsn the later ones; that's a standard Cinch-Jones connector.

Might be worth a flyer to someone who really wants a sand-cast...

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 05:46 PM

An very early C8

 

https://www.ebay.com...EUAAOSwV45btE5W

 

The following little notes quotes are in the description, with some comments by me in brackets:

  • "Lens Coating:  None, too old, no coatings in 60's" [Is this true?]
  • "Bottom line here, the orange C-8's with no holes in the forks, suck optically." [Um...hmmm....erh.... scratchhead2.gif

[“Ignorant people think it is the noise which fighting cats make that is so aggravating, but it ain't so; it is the sickening grammar that they use.”

― Mark Twain]

  • "This includes the telescope only, no visual back..." [There is an issue with the visual back threading on the older C8's not working well with later C8's. It is a solvable problem, but be aware. Does anyone know if the early early C8's have and even earlier thread on the visual back?]

 

Next, same seller, a Tuthill C11 dew shield.

https://www.ebay.com...vwAAOSwG3RbtEUv

 

Free advice, and worth every cowry shell:  (turn volume to low) https://www.youtube....h?v=_pIkkzDagsY

 

The above items are not in California or Florida. lol.gif

Looks clean jean. But not rare blare.



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Posted 03 October 2018 - 05:47 PM

Would love it, but my poor back. I bet it is a killer in my seeing.


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 07:35 PM

C8 trunk

 

https://boston.craig...6709107300.html

 

C8 tripod

 

https://boston.craig...6708471749.html

 

8" OC

 

https://boston.craig...6708792608.html

 

Laughably overpriced 2045

 

https://boston.craig...6691167934.html

 

10" f/6.3 LX200

 

https://www.ebay.com...WYAAOSwV45bsuNP

 

Orange C5 OTA

 

https://www.ebay.com...2cAAOSwnFpbtTJN

 

Sandcast tricolor C8

 

https://www.ebay.com...EUAAOSwV45btE5W


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 07:40 PM

OUCH  on the 2045 for $600 smackers plus. But if it is a complete working LX3 with super good optics and hand control i could go $400.


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 07:42 PM

https://www.ebay.com...EUAAOSwljZZnLgZ

 

The last time this was posted here they were asking $500, now $250.

 

6" f5 Meade on the Mizar mount.


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#60 CHASLX200

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 07:54 PM

https://www.ebay.com...EUAAOSwljZZnLgZ

 

The last time this was posted here they were asking $500, now $250.

 

6" f5 Meade on the Mizar mount.

I would jump for that price. They came out around 1986.


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 09:09 PM

And then there is this

 

Jaegar4-f-15

 

 

https://www.cloudyni...r/s............

 

That's a beautiful scope; he's featured it in the forum before if you search.


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 09:15 PM

https://www.cloudyni...actors-fl-102s/

 

 

While I agree with Tim and others on the use or misuses of the word Rare

 

While not rare         I Rarely see   the Vixen 102fl in white and Vixen graygreen   

Lovely scope from extremely knowledgable seller    

 

Read  the ad    more to come      oh my goodness

I pledged not to buy a 4" APO, but Allan sure does make that a tough decision to stick with!  I recommended it to a shopper on the Refractor Forum, so hopefully the temptation will be gone -- soon.


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 10:33 PM

Coatings: I believe that's correct that sand-cast C8s did not have coatings.

Optical superiority: that's a strong generalization...

No visual back: could be a problem as I seem to recall that the threading on early scopes was slightly different. I think I have an early vb that I've held on to for precisely that reason...

Chuckle at seller who wants you to think he's very knowledgable about the scope, then calls the synchro motors servos... lol.gif

Power cord is easier to replace on that thsn the later ones; that's a standard Cinch-Jones connector.

Might be worth a flyer to someone who really wants a sand-cast...

My 75 sandcast c8 has starbright coatings.


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 10:56 PM

A Celestron/Vixen C6 on Polaris mount for $200. 

 

https://www.facebook...product_details

 

and a Celestron/Vixen C80 that looks to be really clean but they won't budge off the $250 price.

 

https://www.facebook...product_details


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 11:51 PM

 

Free advice, and worth every cowry shell... https://www.youtube....h?v=_pIkkzDagsY

 

 

can't see that link without following up with this classic:

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=0KumQhF4-DQ



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Posted 03 October 2018 - 11:56 PM

here's another, seller says it's a 1971 tasco, looks to come with some eyepieces, a barlow, and a yoke-type pedestal tripod, asking price of $40, located in fowler, co:

 

https://www.facebook...458084771356493

 

 

That's a fairly rare Tasco 19T Self Storing Observatory.

If I was in CO and did Facebook I'd Jump.

Can I say that? 

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Link:

https://www.cloudyni...ng-observatory/

 

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Well, I made contact with the seller. I am going to try and grab it Friday. I'll post more when I know more



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Posted 04 October 2018 - 12:41 AM

can't see that link without following up with this classic:

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=0KumQhF4-DQ

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I suggest we apologize to everyone born after 1975, excepting those who majored in TV History!



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Posted 04 October 2018 - 05:13 AM

My 75 sandcast c8 has starbright coatings.

 

My 75 sandcast c8 has starbright coatings.

I never knew coatings were called Starbright in the 70's.  I sure don't remember seeing that name in any ads pre 80's.



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Posted 04 October 2018 - 06:15 AM

https://www.ebay.com...EUAAOSwljZZnLgZ

 

The last time this was posted here they were asking $500, now $250.

 

6" f5 Meade on the Mizar mount.

At <= $300 with shipping, that's a good price -- no Mizar duds so far that I've seen.  Wonder if a 9V AstroMaster drive could be adapted to the EQ mount?


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Posted 04 October 2018 - 07:25 AM

The thing I find annoying about the ad is the claim of rarity.  There were very likely many thousands of tricolor C-8s made.  Also, there was a blue and white 8" just before the tricolors.  This one isn't one of the earliest, as it doesn't have the helical focuser, and doesn't appear to have the transition version to the later focuser where they machined off the mount for the helical focuser and put a disk of black anodized aluminum over it to support the visual back and get the back focus distance right.  Tinky (#135) has this.  I haven't had any problems with modern visual backs fitting.  At the current price in the ad, this would be an expensive scope to restore, sadly.  The optics in Tinky are very good, but those in my 1975 are also, as were the ones in a 1979-80 C-8 that I once owned.

 

-Tim.

I'm thinking the tricolors may have numbered in the thousands as well.  They pop up every month or two. I have a 1960 8" Tinsley Cass. Probably numbering in the 50-100 range at most. Saw three for sale in the past 15 Years. Saw five, but two were the same scope twice. The one I own and another.



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Posted 04 October 2018 - 07:47 AM

At <= $300 with shipping, that's a good price -- no Mizar duds so far that I've seen.  Wonder if a 9V AstroMaster drive could be adapted to the EQ mount?

I can't believe how far the focuser mounting bolt intrude into the light path. Just a little modding and it would be a monster I bet. So If it is American made who did the mirrors again?



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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:16 AM

Both are in great condition, but NO WAY that I'd pay $200 + shipping for a 60x700 alt/az...

Bob mine has been completely taken apart and deep cleaned main lens and finder as well and the focuser and complete mount taken fully apart, deep cleaned and re-greased so please take that into consideration. You left that out in my listing description. Yes they can be found for 40 dollars. Covered in mouse and bird poop and dried up poop brown grease....lol Peace my lensfriend.


Edited by leveye, 04 October 2018 - 08:55 AM.


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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:59 AM

My 75 sandcast c8 has starbright coatings.


Mine has the "Special coatings" label, s/n 1 5175 6, not sure about the year.
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Posted 04 October 2018 - 09:20 AM

Gorgeous yard cannon for someone looking for a classic loooong 4” achromat. If you’ve got the mount to put it on, it would be a showstopper! (I had my now gone 4” F15 Edmund on a reconditioned 1” shaft Edmund GEM and also on a UA Unistar Deluxe, both on a tall HD surveyors tripod and both handled it admirably.)

 

https://www.cloudyni...-price-updated/

 

This one is a beauty!


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Posted 04 October 2018 - 09:45 AM

Gorgeous yard cannon for someone looking for a classic loooong 4” achromat. If you’ve got the mount to put it on, it would be a showstopper! (I had my now gone 4” F15 Edmund on a reconditioned 1” shaft Edmund GEM and also on a UA Unistar Deluxe, both on a tall HD surveyors tripod and both handled it admirably.)

 

https://www.cloudyni...-price-updated/

 

This one is a beauty!

 

Yeah, I was looking at that.  Very pretty.  I'm not interested in buying because I have a 4" f/13 Vixen-spec to build around, but if I were looking for one, I'd go for this.

 

It's not that much longer than an RV-6.  Speaking of which, it would probably be great on an RV-6 mount.  You'd just have to cobble together a way to mount it to a tripod or a longer pier.


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