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#1 Toddeo

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:41 PM

Hello! I picked up a '69 Questar. It came with the leather case(made by "Chick Luggage Co. New York") but no keys. Questar used the same locks/latches for newer scopes- for how long, I don't know. I've tried a local locksmith- to no avail. If any one has one key or a set, or knows of a locksmith that can make them- please let me know. I will pay for one or two keys, Thanks Todd.

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 05:18 PM

That is a beautiful looking case. Sorry I can’t help with the keys.



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Posted 12 October 2018 - 07:38 PM

https://www.cloudyni...to-60s-questar/

 

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 07:47 PM

I'm no locksmith- but I took it(the case) to a locksmith's shop in Sierra Vista,AZ- no go!  The experience was a joke!!!!!!  I'm beginning to wonder if any one in AZ can do their job!



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Posted 15 October 2018 - 02:00 PM

I bought a few of the Cheney #30 keys- I will have to wait and see if they work on my case.



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Posted 15 October 2018 - 02:28 PM

 Double check the case really well. There have been a couple Questar cases were I found the keys and or the Britsol wrenches deep down in the pockets. I had to make sure I could see all the way to the  bottom of each pocket since feeling the pocket did not indicated that there was anything in them. 

 

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Posted 15 October 2018 - 02:37 PM

 Double check the case really well. There have been a couple Questar cases were I found the keys and or the Britsol wrenches deep down in the pockets. I had to make sure I could see all the way to the  bottom of each pocket since feeling the pocket did not indicated that there was anything in them. 

 

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Been there, done that- Thanks.



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Posted 15 October 2018 - 04:58 PM

Yep... me to.



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Posted 15 October 2018 - 09:15 PM

Well, the #30 Cheney keys do not fit my 1969 leather casefrown.gif . I guess I'll keep looking. I would think that someone out there, with the same vintage leather case, would know where I can get a key made or bought?   HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!                 Picture shows what the locks look like on my '69 case.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Second picture shows what doesn't work- The case with the Cheney locks and key #30 are a different vintage than mine.  Worse case- I'll try and file a #30 key to fit into the key slot of my case!

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Posted 15 October 2018 - 11:25 PM

Well, the #30 Cheney keys do not fit my 1969 leather casefrown.gif . I guess I'll keep looking. I would think that someone out there, with the same vintage leather case, would know where I can get a key made or bought?   HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!                 Picture shows what the locks look like on my '69 case.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Second picture shows what doesn't work- The case with the Cheney locks and key #30 are a different vintage than mine.  Worse case- I'll try and file a #30 key to fit into the key slot of my case!

 

The second picture above (with the ruler) is one I posted quite a while ago in a previous thread on Questar case keys. In my case mine was for a 1964 Questar standard case. 

 

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Posted 16 October 2018 - 12:05 AM

JR- I can't remember what year Questar changed vendors for their leather cases. Mine is 1969 and a company called Chick Luggage Co. out of New York made it. The older ones - like yours were from Cheney, England.



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Posted 16 October 2018 - 09:26 AM

The second picture above (with the ruler) is one I posted quite a while ago in a previous thread on Questar case keys. In my case mine was for a 1964 Questar standard case. 

 

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I want to thank "JR" for the use of his "Cheney #30" picture. I used his photo- without giving him credit or getting his permission- beforehandundecided.gif .  Thanks, JR.    Todd.



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Posted 16 October 2018 - 10:03 AM

 You might want to go to a  music store since those type of latches are common on musical instrument cases. A quick look on Ebay for Guitar case latches shows a number of them that are similar. Excelsior made latches of these type.

 

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Posted 16 October 2018 - 10:35 AM

 You might want to go to a  music store since those type of latches are common on musical instrument cases. A quick look on Ebay for Guitar case latches shows a number of them that are similar. Excelsior made latches of these type.

 

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Dave, I have checked all of my guitar cases. The only one that was close-was a Cheney #30!- No go! The key for my lock is very close to a #30. It seems that the key slot on my case/lock is "a little" smaller(shorter), maybe 1/16". The nib or tang(of the key slot) that rides in the cut out of the key- looks to be "pointed" on my case. The Cheney lock-key slot is a bit rounded. I looked on "- Bay" the Excelsior keys look very promising , but which one?confused1.gif I'll keep looking, Thanks.


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Posted 16 October 2018 - 11:20 AM

I found out that Questar had "Chick Luggage Co", New York make the leather cases from 1968-1982. They made two versions during this time(latter version had the top of the case and door -tapered). I would think that there should be quite a few Questars out there with this style of case. All I need is a brand name and or key #. So far, it seems like "Excelsior" might be the correct key manufacturer............ the search goes on! Just found out,  Company Seven, states in a brief history of the Questar cases- that indeed the second generation of leather cases have Excelsior latches/locks!smile.gif  still need the key #.


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Posted 16 October 2018 - 12:44 PM

Looks you're getting closer to finding the right keys fingerscrossed.gif



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Posted 16 October 2018 - 07:18 PM

I want to thank "JR" for the use of his "Cheney #30" picture. I used his photo- without giving him credit or getting his permission- beforehandundecided.gif .  Thanks, JR.    Todd.

Todd,

 

No problem for using my picture. I posted in originally in the hopes it would help somebody. I just wanted to clarify that the Cheney #30 key worked in my 1964 scope with the standard leather case it came with, as for other years I have no information. 

 

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Posted 16 October 2018 - 08:10 PM

JR,     #30 Cheney works on the 1st generation of leather cases(up to 1968). I found out that Questar , then used a U.S. manufacturer(Chick Luggage Co.) from '68/'69 to 1982. That 2nd generation of leather cases used Excelsior latches/locks. I'm still trying to find out the Excelsior key #.     Todd.



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Posted 17 October 2018 - 12:15 AM

JR,     #30 Cheney works on the 1st generation of leather cases(up to 1968). I found out that Questar , then used a U.S. manufacturer(Chick Luggage Co.) from '68/'69 to 1982. That 2nd generation of leather cases used Excelsior latches/locks. I'm still trying to find out the Excelsior key #.     Todd.

Todd,

 

Best of luck in your search!

 

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Posted 17 October 2018 - 09:00 AM

I'm hoping that someone-out there who has a 1969-1982 leather Questar case , can look at their key and either take a picture of it or post what the number is on the correct key. I'm not talking rocket science here---- I, and other Questar owners could use this information. I just find it hard to believe that there aren't any Questar owners  with cases from that era with keys?     Any help is greatly appreciated, Thanks, Todd(A man without keys!)bawling.gif



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Posted 18 October 2018 - 07:33 AM

I’m just curious, has anyone actually found a benefit to locking the case? I suppose if you worried about your kids playing with the telescope it could keep them at bay. I’m not sure what the other benefits might be.

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Posted 18 October 2018 - 08:10 AM

Ben, I have never locked mine.  It's a combination lock and still set to the factory default.  Only reason I can even think of is as an extra precaution if you are worried about having a latch accidentally come unlatched while carrying.  I can't imagine how this would happen with the combo locks.  With the older flip latches, I guess it might be possible to snag one on something and flip it open.  But again, can't imagine how you would accidentally open both simultaneously???  But, I guess it is better to err on the side of caution if this worries you.  Small price for peace of mind.


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Posted 18 October 2018 - 09:19 AM

I probably will never lock mine. I just want a set of keys- to make my Questar "complete"lol.gif . Now I'm still looking for a 80x - 160x screw-in eyepiece(the first generation-large threads).       Todd.



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Posted 18 October 2018 - 02:37 PM

Hi Todd

 

Not sure if this will help.I have recently aquired a 1980 Q with a leather case.The locks look very similar to yours,but I'm not 100% sure as its back at the mothership at the moment being serviced.

Pics of my keys may help.   john

 

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Posted 18 October 2018 - 02:52 PM

Hi Todd

 

Not sure if this will help.I have recently aquired a 1980 Q with a leather case.The locks look very similar to yours,but I'm not 100% sure as its back at the mothership at the moment being serviced.

Pics of my keys may help.   john

 

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Johninuk........... Those are the correct keys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!bow.gif  I was able to contact Jim R. over at Questar. He went and found a set of original keys in an old case that they had upstairs for decades. He was good enough to sell them to mesmile.gif . Thanks to all who have helped in this search. I now have a few of the Cheney #30 keys that fit the "older" 1st generation leather cases(bought these, hoping they would work on my case).  PM me if anyone is interested in picking up #30 Cheney keys, Thanks, Todd.


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