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#76 Dougeo

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 05:53 PM

Doug,
 
I have found a BHP link for a PDF file of a late Bogen catalogue for tripods and supports. You might want to have a look at the catalogue, to see if you can find further information on the Bogen used tripods that might show up along your search for a suitable support for your APMs.
 
https://static.bhpho...eraSupports.pdf
 
The catalogue has some other brands and models, but there is an index at the beginning of the catalogue to help you going to the right pages.

I'll check it out, thanks!
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Posted 04 November 2018 - 05:57 PM

"Wish B&H had similar pages of the more current gear in this format."
 
I found some more recent, post- '94 B&H "sourcebook" .pdf catalogs.  Not the latest products, 2000s and a bit later, though:
 
https://static.bhpho...m/05tripods.pdf
 
https://www.bhphotov...Sup_404-437.pdf
 
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I'll take a look, thanks!
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Posted 06 November 2018 - 10:43 AM

I wanted to thank everbody that contributed to this forum question. The information has been very informative, useful and has helped me make a decision as to which direction to go with the tripod and head.

I have decided to go with the 475 tripod and the N12 head as I feel it will work best for my application. Thanks to all the comments from around the world

Doug
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 01:15 PM

Hi All;

 

I have my APM 100 45 ED mounted on a Oberwerk 5000 tripod head. What improvements would I note in performance if I upgraded to an N12 head?

 

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 02:13 PM

Hi All;

 

I have my APM 100 45 ED mounted on a Oberwerk 5000 tripod head. What improvements would I note in performance if I upgraded to an N12 head?

 

Thanks

Way better balance in the altitude axis, I'd expect.  I've heard the counterbalance spring in the 5000 head is a weak point with heavy loads.  Your BT likely overloads it.  N12 would allow smoother alt action because you shouldn't need to crank the tension down so tight with the better, stronger CB function.

 

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 02:48 PM

Way better balance in the altitude axis, I'd expect.  I've heard the counterbalance spring in the 5000 head is a weak point with heavy loads.  Your BT likely overloads it.  N12 would allow smoother alt action because you shouldn't need to crank the tension down so tight with the better, stronger CB function.

 

Rich

The N12 is really nice. Smooth feather touch operation with the counterbalance and panning. In the field, in the dark, the head just becomes part of the binocular. Very enjoyable to use out there. 



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Posted 09 November 2018 - 06:09 PM

Hi All;

 

I have my APM 100 45 ED mounted on a Oberwerk 5000 tripod head. What improvements would I note in performance if I upgraded to an N12 head?

 

Thanks

I did that when I first got mine, but I knew that something stouter was needed.  I spent the extra $$$ on an Oberwerk wooden tripod (had to have the eyepiece tray too), which holds 40lbs.  I also purchased the APM fork mount.  Best setup ever!

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 10:44 AM

Thanks all. BH Photo had a slightly used one for $450. It's on the way....

My 5000 seems to have some play in it. And, it also has an element of "backlash".

I hope the N12 solves this.


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 12:14 PM

Thanks all. BH Photo had a slightly used one for $450. It's on the way....
My 5000 seems to have some play in it. And, it also has an element of "backlash".
I hope the N12 solves this.


Ha, So that's where it went, I had it in my cart the other day and went to check out the other day and it was gone! smile.gif I hope you enjoy it I found another used one at Adorama so it's on the way as well!

When you get it let us know how you like it
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Posted 10 November 2018 - 12:55 PM

You guys remember to reach zenith, if you are going to do that with the N12, you have to mount the binos backwards than what the instructions tell you to do. Just a heads up, or backwards in this case... wink.gif


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 12:58 PM

Ha, So that's where it went, I had it in my cart the other day and went to check out the other day and it was gone! smile.gif I hope you enjoy it I found another used one at Adorama so it's on the way as well!

When you get it let us know how you like it

Uh Ohhhh... I did this just yesterday. I was hoping to get the one from Adorama (it was $20 less), and apparently you snagged it! I then ordered the one form BH.... it seemed to go through.

We'll see.



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 04:22 PM

You guys are going to like those heads, very impressive pieces of equipment. 


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 05:23 PM

Uh Ohhhh... I did this just yesterday. I was hoping to get the one from Adorama (it was $20 less), and apparently you snagged it! I then ordered the one form BH.... it seemed to go through.
We'll see.
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That s odd, I checked my cart on Thursday and it was gone and I went to their website and couldn't find it..I guess it showed back up yesterday and that's when you found it,Oh well, it all worked out I Hope you enjoy it.
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You guys are going to like those heads, very impressive pieces of equipment.
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Well I think I will, can't wait to try it out!

You guys remember to reach zenith, if you are going to do that with the N12, you have to mount the binos backwards than what the instructions tell you to do. Just a heads up, or backwards in this case... wink.gif
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Gotcha, thanks for the reminder .



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Posted 20 November 2018 - 04:32 PM

I received my "used" N12 from B&H this week. It appeared in almost new condition, and cost $449. (Adorama recently had a similar unit for $429. I believe @dougeo got that one). 

In any case, it is a useful step upward from my Oberwerk 5000 head. It is much smoother in its function. I had my doubts when I ordered it, but I believe the outlay is justified by the delta in performance. 



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Posted 21 November 2018 - 05:50 PM

I received my "used" N12 from B&H this week. It appeared in almost new condition, and cost $449. (Adorama recently had a similar unit for $429. I believe @dougeo got that one). 
In any case, it is a useful step upward from my Oberwerk 5000 head. It is much smoother in its function. I had my doubts when I ordered it, but I believe the outlay is justified by the delta in performance.

Ricky, got my used N12 from Adorama and it also appears as new. I haven't actually used it yet but what's your overall opinion of yours?

Doug

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 09:24 PM

I received my "used" N12 from B&H this week. It appeared in almost new condition, and cost $449. (Adorama recently had a similar unit for $429. I believe @dougeo got that one). 

In any case, it is a useful step upward from my Oberwerk 5000 head. It is much smoother in its function. I had my doubts when I ordered it, but I believe the outlay is justified by the delta in performance. 

 

 

I also upgraded from the Obie 5000. A HUGE improvement from my perspective. Not that I do much daytime viewing but following planes or hawks in flight is an amazing experience with this head. Smooth as silk - stays right where you place it once you have it adjusted correctly.


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Posted 22 November 2018 - 03:26 PM

Ricky, got my used N12 from Adorama and it also appears as new. I haven't actually used it yet but what's your overall opinion of yours?

Doug

Hi;

My Oberwerks 5000 was used, so I can't account for the performance of a new unit (although see the above thread on someone else that made this upgrade).

To get my O5000 to hold the position, I would have to keep the tension fairly tight. Then it would require a significant amount of force to overcome initial tension, and harder to stop on a desired location with desired smoothness and precision. The N12 is quite smooth in all aspects.

I was able to set it where it only required lighter touch to smoothly move between targets. It is a pleasure, and enhances an evening of viewing.

Enjoy, and happy Thanksgiving!



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Posted 22 November 2018 - 05:29 PM

I did that when I first got mine, but I knew that something stouter was needed.  I spent the extra $$$ on an Oberwerk wooden tripod (had to have the eyepiece tray too), which holds 40lbs.  I also purchased the APM fork mount.  Best setup ever!

Agreed. Rock solid and smooth, very smooth movements with just the right touch.

 

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Posted 22 November 2018 - 05:40 PM

Agreed. Rock solid and smooth, very smooth movements with just the right touch.
 
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very nice!!!

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Posted 22 November 2018 - 05:42 PM

Hi;
My Oberwerks 5000 was used, so I can't account for the performance of a new unit (although see the above thread on someone else that made this upgrade).
To get my O5000 to hold the position, I would have to keep the tension fairly tight. Then it would require a significant amount of force to overcome initial tension, and harder to stop on a desired location with desired smoothness and precision. The N12 is quite smooth in all aspects.
I was able to set it where it only required lighter touch to smoothly move between targets. It is a pleasure, and enhances an evening of viewing.
Enjoy, and happy Thanksgiving!

Thanks Ricky, Happy Thanksgiving to you as well!!!

I'll have my APM 100 90ED this week so I'll be able to get it all set up. I'll let you know this week! Have a good one:)


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