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Celestron RFT, SS80, Spotter, all of the above or something else?

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#1 shredder1656

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Posted 01 December 2018 - 07:02 PM

Took a gamble on this little scope, but did run it by a good friend and CN member Rolo, so I am sure that I am on the right track.  I noticed the ad for this months ago, but was not sure I was correct in thinking it looked like a Vixen-era Celestron scope.  When I inquired, the seller was very nice and attempted to give me all info available.  However, they sent me a link to the manual for a Celestron model #52260.  Of course, the label on the focuser is missing, and it is so tiny, I am not even sure it ever had stickers.  

 

Like I mentioned, I watched this ad for quite awhile.  I first reached out and received the above info over a month ago.  After looking at it over and over, I asked Rolo his opinion.  He agreed with my thought that it might be a Vixen made scope.  So, I reached out the seller again.  I argued with myself, because I had resolved to continue avoiding more acquisitions.  But...ultimately, they convinced me that it was worth taking a chance, so we agreed on a price.  It arrived today.

 

It has no markings anywhere, besides the orange "Celestron" stickers, and the oval sticker that says "PASSED MORIYA".  The focuser is void of any label, although there is a plate that appears to have been glued to a flat spot on the top.  It looks like it would have been intended as a label, but it is completely blank.  It does have what appear to be the original caps.  The objective looks like the Vixen stuff on my other scopes, and the cap/plug for the focuser is clearly Vixen (V).  

 

I am pretty certain that it is NOT a 52260 now, because the manual indicates that it would have a 16" fl, if I understand it correctly.  This little guy is roughly 12" from objective glass to the tip of the visual back.  Even with the focuser racked all the way out, it is under 15".  So, I have been convincing myself further that this is a little Vixen made SS80.

 

I found a few old listings, and a couple of them appear to have the blank focuser too.  However, I could not make it out completely.  So, can anyone unequivocally confirm this one way or the other, point me towards more info (very very little commentary on these, other than one or two admissions of ownership here or there), or tell me what kind of tripod this little mount would be happiest astride?  Anyone else own one?

 

It is a nice looking little scope.  Gloomy daytime images looked quite nice.  Very rainy today/tonight, and looks to be that way for quite awhile.  But, don't blame me...it's Indiana.  

 

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Posted 01 December 2018 - 07:47 PM

If you look inside the back of the focus knobs you should see a circle V. They absolutely look vixen from the front. Lucky you! I would have snagged that in a heartbeat. The Moriya is Japanese. Jealous.......


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Posted 01 December 2018 - 08:02 PM

I bought a Celestron SS-80 from Orion back in 1990.  It looks identical to your pictures in every detail.


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Posted 01 December 2018 - 08:08 PM

If you look inside the back of the focus knobs you should see a circle V. They absolutely look vixen from the front. Lucky you! I would have snagged that in a heartbeat. The Moriya is Japanese. Jealous.......

 

Wow!  The detailed knowledge of such minutiae by you and others on here boggles my noggin sometimes.  BINGO!  

 

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Posted 01 December 2018 - 08:13 PM

I bought a Celestron SS-80 from Orion back in 1990.  It looks identical to your pictures in every detail.

Great!  Still have it?  Obviously...well, hopefully, considering the weather this time of year, I will find out myself, but was it an ok performer?

 

Is this case original to the scope, or an after market one?  No Celestron markings, but the "open" sticker was falling off, so maybe there used to be Celestron stickers somewhere.  

 

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Posted 01 December 2018 - 08:43 PM

If you remove the plate on top of the focuser there are four holes to mount a vixen finder...


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Posted 01 December 2018 - 09:00 PM

I really am sooooooo jealous. Are you tired of owning yet?



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Posted 01 December 2018 - 09:13 PM

original case:

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 09:21 AM

Terrynt, thanks for the case pic.  This one is definitely aftermarket then.  Still works well.  

 

Rolo, I have a base and finder I am not using.  Is that little plate glued on, as it appears?  Once removed, no going back, right?

 

Deepwoods1, uhhhh, not quite yet.  LOL.  

 

As bizarre as it is, somehow the clouds parted, unbeknownst to me since I somehow slept until just as the sun was popping up, and the moon WOULD have been a fun target.  Instead, I figured that out as the sun had already started brightening the skies.  So, I still was able to take a look with a jury-rigged set-up on my GP mount, but it was pretty washed out by the time I squared things away.  Indiana...if you don't like the weather, wait a minute.  Forecast is unreliable.  But, the optics look pretty good, all things considered.  Maybe, great!

 

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 09:50 AM

The plate is glued on and you can glue it back if you like. 



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Posted 02 December 2018 - 12:06 PM

Your scope seems exactly the same as the perl halley 70 made by vixen 

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 02:27 PM

If you look inside the back of the focus knobs you should see a circle V. They absolutely look vixen from the front. Lucky you! I would have snagged that in a heartbeat. The Moriya is Japanese. Jealous.......

Nice detail! I just checked my Tasco 9vr and its focus knobs have the circle V also:

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 07:13 AM

Yes, it does look like the Halley. Apparently, very similar or identical to the 10vr as well?

So, if I measured accurately, this is an f4.5, correct? Or, is it an f5?

I searched quite a bit, but still find very little to nothing on this. Does anyone have the manual or anything? Also, the mount that is in the first pictures seems to be primarily for terrestrial use. Is this the original mount?

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 07:26 AM

That’s really cool Scott! It reminds me a lot of my Tiny Traveler! An ATM Carton 70mm F4.5:

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 08:10 AM

It is different than the 10VR. 

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Posted 25 March 2021 - 09:10 AM

If you remove the plate on top of the focuser there are four holes to mount a vixen finder...

There is really no need to add a finder to these little ST80 80mm F5 scopes. With a 26mm Super Plossl you get 15X and a nearly three and a half degree field; making the scope itself act as the finder. At most, a little RDF pointing device is more than sufficient.


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Posted 03 April 2021 - 11:02 PM

https://www.ebay.com...jkAAOSwIwtfyZi5

I think this might be the appropriate finder bracket.


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Posted 04 April 2021 - 07:31 AM

There is really no need to add a finder to these little ST80 80mm F5 scopes. With a 26mm Super Plossl you get 15X and a nearly three and a half degree field; making the scope itself act as the finder. At most, a little RDF pointing device is more than sufficient.

BTW, my favorite ‘finder’ on my CNC ST80 is to just lay a glp along the cylinder of the tube parallel to its axis. It works great with mine.

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Posted 13 December 2021 - 12:36 PM

Resurrecting this thread to ask about the Celestron SS-80… I have an identical scope as that pictured by shredder above. I’m wondering if anyone has ever removed the stock focuser on this scope. I’m not looking to replace it but mine has a slight cant to it. i.e. the focuser is rotated relative to the scope’s mounting block. It is more an annoyance than anything but still curious if it’s easy to fix. It seems like the focuser is glued in with adhesive as I don’t see any fasteners.

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Posted 13 December 2021 - 03:28 PM

Resurrecting this thread to ask about the Celestron SS-80… I have an identical scope as that pictured by shredder above. I’m wondering if anyone has ever removed the stock focuser on this scope. I’m not looking to replace it but mine has a slight cant to it. i.e. the focuser is rotated relative to the scope’s mounting block. It is more an annoyance than anything but still curious if it’s easy to fix. It seems like the focuser is glued in with adhesive as I don’t see any fasteners.

I don't know about this particular model but it may thread on to the tube. Some by other manufacturers do. Perhaps you could give it a modest twist to find out.


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Posted 13 December 2021 - 05:27 PM

That's an interesting thought. Hadn't considered that possibility. I will give that a shot. Thanks!


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Posted 19 December 2021 - 04:45 PM

Good call, Kasmos. You nailed it. The focuser is indeed a thread on one. It took more than a modest twist. Maybe a little stuck after all these years. But eventually came loose (also thanks to a tiny, tiny amount of penetrant I applied to the gap between the focuser and tube). Very simple fix - thanks!


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Posted 03 July 2024 - 03:08 PM

The plate is glued on and you can glue it back if you like. 

Hello, I know this is an old thread. Would you know where I can find a finder scope for that the Celestron SS80 uses. I just picked up a old vintage scope from a thrift shop for cheap. It's in great condition but I'm noticing non of the newer dovetail mounts do not have an adapter or conversion mount to add to this old scope. I'm looking for more of a RACI finder that will fit into the 4 Rectangular screw holes but will consider and other options.  The Celestron (Vixen) SP-C102 finder scope would also be a great finder but very difficult to find. Thanks in advance for the info.



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Posted 05 July 2024 - 12:45 AM

Hello, I know this is an old thread. Would you know where I can find a finder scope for that the Celestron SS80 uses. I just picked up a old vintage scope from a thrift shop for cheap. It's in great condition but I'm noticing non of the newer dovetail mounts do not have an adapter or conversion mount to add to this old scope. I'm looking for more of a RACI finder that will fit into the 4 Rectangular screw holes but will consider and other options.  The Celestron (Vixen) SP-C102 finder scope would also be a great finder but very difficult to find. Thanks in advance for the info.

I'm not clear what you are asking for. Pictures are always nice when asking questions. Do you have an ST80 or a spotting scope like the pictured in this thread? The spotting scope does not have a finderscope, and the ST80 has a standard Vixen dovetail shoe for mounting one. 


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Posted 05 July 2024 - 02:08 PM

Hello, I know this is an old thread. Would you know where I can find a finder scope for that the Celestron SS80 uses. I just picked up a old vintage scope from a thrift shop for cheap. It's in great condition but I'm noticing non of the newer dovetail mounts do not have an adapter or conversion mount to add to this old scope. I'm looking for more of a RACI finder that will fit into the 4 Rectangular screw holes but will consider and other options.  The Celestron (Vixen) SP-C102 finder scope would also be a great finder but very difficult to find. Thanks in advance for the info.

The Celestron SS80, like you said uses a different method to attach a finderscope.  The finderscope stalk is angled and at the flat base it uses 4 Philips screws to mount it.

 

You could try posting a wanted add in the classifieds, or if you have access to a 3D printer you could try making an adapter that would let you add an offset vixen shoe. Then you can use any finderscope with a vixen base




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