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#1 jtjtjtjt

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 10:47 AM

Hi All! 

 

I recently picked up this beauty that cleaned up exceptionally well. I'm curious if any could let me know an approximate age. It has what seems to be a low serial number ( 10364 ) and when i removed the finderscope mount I found 237 written in red on the OTA. Thanks in advance. 

 

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:18 AM

Wow, great find! I don't know anything about the age (but I bet someone else does.) How lucky you got the mount as well. Have fun with it!
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 12:07 PM

Wow, great find! I don't know anything about the age (but I bet someone else does.) How lucky you got the mount as well. Have fun with it!

Thank you! It's a wonderful scope! Hardly a hint of false color on the moon last night!



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Posted 17 February 2019 - 03:58 PM

I've seen other makes of telescopes with those gray bakelite knobs from approx. the mid fifties so I'd say '55-'60 is probably a safe guess.


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 04:37 PM

I've seen other makes of telescopes with those gray bakelite knobs from approx. the mid fifties so I'd say '55-'60 is probably a safe guess.

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 06:22 PM

I was also going to guesstimate mid-50s or very early 60s. Nice find! The wood shaving packing bags would also suggest that.

 

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 06:56 PM

Very nice find, and very early -- 1959 +/- 2 years.  IIRC, the finders moved from centerline to left of center around 1960 for many of the imports -- except for Royals, where the bracket mounts on the focuser.  I don't think we settled on when the engraving on the lens cells started, but I can't imagine your scope being made after 1962, based on the knobs & packing material...


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 07:03 PM

I was also going to guesstimate mid-50s or very early 60s. Nice find! The wood shaving packing bags would also suggest that.

 

Steve

Thank you!



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Posted 17 February 2019 - 07:03 PM

Very nice find, and very early -- 1959 +/- 2 years.  IIRC, the finders moved from centerline to left of center around 1960 for many of the imports -- except for Royals, where the bracket mounts on the focuser.  I don't think we settled on when the engraving on the lens cells started, but I can't imagine your scope being made after 1962, based on the knobs & packing material...

Thank you!



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Posted 17 February 2019 - 08:36 PM

If the 237 is a date, it could be 1963, as that was year 37 of the Hirohito era. But the lack of a maker's mark on either the finder or objective cell, and the eyepieces saying f= instead of just the focal length would seem to indicate earlier. 

 

These Alt-Az mounts are very nice to use. I actually prefer them for the scopes I loan to my students because for people who aren't attuned to the idea of an equatorial mount, it's actually easier to understand up-down, right-left. 

 

Great find!

 

Chip W. 


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 08:56 PM

The 237 is a number the assemblers used to keep like parts with like -- bet the underside of the finder bracket has (or had) a 237 on it, too.


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 09:03 PM

I think it is so nice that the OP has thanked individually the people who have responded to this thread.

 

He has done the same thing in his other thread about his Tasco.

 

A nice example for us all in courtesy and civility on this site! smile.gif


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 09:38 PM

If the 237 is a date, it could be 1963, as that was year 37 of the Hirohito era. But the lack of a maker's mark on either the finder or objective cell, and the eyepieces saying f= instead of just the focal length would seem to indicate earlier. 

 

These Alt-Az mounts are very nice to use. I actually prefer them for the scopes I loan to my students because for people who aren't attuned to the idea of an equatorial mount, it's actually easier to understand up-down, right-left. 

 

Great find!

 

Chip W. 

Thank you! I do enjoy using the scope, It is very comfortable, easy to set up and simple to use. Thanks for your input!



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Posted 17 February 2019 - 09:40 PM

The 237 is a number the assemblers used to keep like parts with like -- bet the underside of the finder bracket has (or had) a 237 on it, too.

Interesting, I'll look under the bracket. Thanks!



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Posted 17 February 2019 - 09:40 PM

I think it is so nice that the OP has thanked individually the people who have responded to this thread.

 

He has done the same thing in his other thread about his Tasco.

 

A nice example for us all in courtesy and civility on this site! smile.gif

You're too kind! Thank You!



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Posted 18 February 2019 - 12:29 PM

I have one of these buried somewhere, I'll try and dig it out as time permits.  As I recall, the views were identical to the Shrine-Manon/Mayflower/Bushnell 60x700.  In other words, excellent for a sub-f/12 scope.

 

Congrats!


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Posted 18 February 2019 - 12:46 PM

Your scope looks very clean, so this is just an FYI if needed. I used Turtle Wax to restore this Atco I used to have, after first cleaning with soap and water to get the surface dirt off.

 

Below is a before and after shot.

 

Steve

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Posted 18 February 2019 - 02:51 PM

I have one of these buried somewhere, I'll try and dig it out as time permits.  As I recall, the views were identical to the Shrine-Manon/Mayflower/Bushnell 60x700.  In other words, excellent for a sub-f/12 scope.

 

Congrats!

Thanks! I agree, the view is excellent!



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Posted 18 February 2019 - 02:57 PM

Your scope looks very clean, so this is just an FYI if needed. I used Turtle Wax to restore this Atco I used to have, after first cleaning with soap and water to get the surface dirt off.

 

Below is a before and after shot.

 

Steve

Thank you! I use a magic eraser to clean old scopes, it does any excellent job. I'll try your turtle wax idea, I just hope the scope doesn't slide out of my hands as i'm trying to mount it. lol laugh.gif


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Posted 18 February 2019 - 03:51 PM

Turtle Wax 'Polishing' (not Rubbing), compound is very good for removing stains and superficial scratches from paint. Rubbing compound is generally way too abrasive for most things and will remove paint too fast. The nice thing about polishing compound, unlike wax, it doesn't leave a film so you can touch up paint chips afterwards. Then if you choose to you can wax it after touch ups dry to protect it from oxidation etc.


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Posted 18 February 2019 - 04:08 PM

You'll probably like this.

A couple of telescopes like yours were on Astromart.

Both have Yamatar on the objectives, so I'm not sure if that makes them older or not?

 

https://astromart.co...ar-mint-reduced

 

https://astromart.co...-60mm-f117-6464

 

I also noticed that yours is the one mentioned in the CL/Ebay ad thread. Great deal!


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Posted 18 February 2019 - 04:57 PM

You'll probably like this.

A couple of telescopes like yours were on Astromart.

Both have Yamatar on the objectives, so I'm not sure if that makes them older or not?

 

https://astromart.co...ar-mint-reduced

 

https://astromart.co...-60mm-f117-6464

 

I also noticed that yours is the one mentioned in the CL/Ebay ad thread. Great deal!

Thanks for the info! I would love to find out why mine lacks Yamatar on the objective. 



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Posted 18 February 2019 - 05:36 PM

John 

 

 Congrats all around on your latest aquisition. It looks fine riding in that mount all put together. It looks like you have already  improved its appearance.  I looked at it when the ad first popped up as it was an easy lunchtime run from where I work. The price was low.   Ultimately I just didn't want to take on another wee project as I have alot of irons in the fire right now and my pool table has too many refractors on it.

 

I am in the wierd yet happy position of being so  pleased to have missed out on this scope  .....

simply because  you  seem excited to have it and we bet you appreciate this nice little kit. It is ovious that this scope found a good home.....

 

It has such a cool mount     kind of a yoke mounted clam shell    the likes of which I had not yet seen.

I liked the original stuffing bags  that the seller said actually had some hay in them as well....Tim the seller mentioned that it had been in his family forever and that he was 58 years old and somehow amongst all his older siblings he somehow ended up with it. His estimation was late 50's/early 60/s

 

.everything should clean up nicely.

 

Enjoy  it    and remember         sometimes a scope finds you 

Barry


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Posted 18 February 2019 - 06:05 PM

My Kenko is very similar to the Atco. I think the mounts are the same and that was one of the things that attracted me to it. 

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Kenko made these with and without the azimuth slow motion.

It's appears that others did as well. Again probably an age thing.

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My Sky Chief has a similar but different mount.

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The benefit of this one is, you can install or remove the telescope without taking off the objective lens.

 

 


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Posted 18 February 2019 - 08:24 PM

My Kenko is very similar to the Atco. I think the mounts are the same and that was one of the things that attracted me to it. 

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Kenko made these with and without the azimuth slow motion.

It's appears that others did as well. Again probably an age thing.

attachicon.gif Kenko 710-Telescope.jpg

My Sky Chief has a similar but different mount.

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The benefit of this one is, you can install or remove the telescope without taking off the objective lens.

Yes there's is that cool mount design  again........learn something new here all the time   ............     Thanks for the pics and info on these


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