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#1 Dave Mitsky

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 09:14 PM

Nova is currently airing a program on the volcanoes that surround Naples on PBS.
 

Season 46 Episode 6 The Next Pompeii
 

(2/20) Assessing the risk of a potential eruption of an ancient supervolcano under the Italian city of Naples.

 

https://www.pbs.org/...e-next-pompeii/

 

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:15 AM

That should be a good one.  I'd love to visit Naples, Pompeii, and Herculaneum, but I wouldn't want to live there!



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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:48 AM

The entirety of the Mediterranean region is fascinating, both for reasons of human history and for those of geological history.



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Posted 21 February 2019 - 10:06 AM

The entirety of the Mediterranean region is fascinating, both for reasons of human history and for those of geological history.

Boy, ain't that the truth!  You have to be careful being a geologist in Italy, though...  You could go to jail for that!



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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:04 PM

Boy, ain't that the truth!  You have to be careful being a geologist in Italy, though...  You could go to jail for that!

Seriously? I haven't heard of that.

 

Why?



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Posted 21 February 2019 - 01:11 PM



Seriously? I haven't heard of that.

 

Why?

https://www.scientif...scientists-get/



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Posted 21 February 2019 - 01:39 PM

Absolutely crazy.



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Posted 21 February 2019 - 03:02 PM

This thing is a bit more complex than reported overseas. Like said in the article above: "Knowing whether small quakes are foreshocks for a larger temblor is impossible, according to seismologists", it is also impossible knowing the converse: that small quakes are not foreshocks for a larger temblor. This latter consideration turned to be the convinction for italian seismologists to assure people to return on their houses: peoples who were sleeping outside from few days because ansious by the over five hundred "small quakes" so far hitting the area. Who did ignore the seismologists's advertisement did save their lives, otherwise victims should have been thousands, not hundreths. Judges wished to know the way in which seismologists' advertisement did superseded their specific competences in matter of public order, because they ordered the Civil Protection, Police and Carabinieri to suggest people to spend the fatal night in their houses.



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Posted 21 February 2019 - 07:47 PM

This thing is a bit more complex than reported overseas. Like said in the article above: "Knowing whether small quakes are foreshocks for a larger temblor is impossible, according to seismologists", it is also impossible knowing the converse: that small quakes are not foreshocks for a larger temblor. This latter consideration turned to be the convinction for italian seismologists to assure people to return on their houses: peoples who were sleeping outside from few days because ansious by the over five hundred "small quakes" so far hitting the area. Who did ignore the seismologists's advertisement did save their lives, otherwise victims should have been thousands, not hundreths. Judges wished to know the way in which seismologists' advertisement did superseded their specific competences in matter of public order, because they ordered the Civil Protection, Police and Carabinieri to suggest people to spend the fatal night in their houses.

It's all a matter of playing the odds, because the chances were much greater of them being harmed by staying out in the cold than by having an earthquake hit them.  Everything is a matter of balancing risks, and sometimes you lose the gamble, even if you make the right decisions.  Had they advised people to stay outside, and an earthquake had NOT happened, then they would have been castigated for crying wolf, and causing unnecessary suffering.



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Posted 22 February 2019 - 02:20 AM

- I apologize for the off topic -

 

 

It's all a matter of playing the odds, because the chances were much greater of them being harmed by staying out in the cold than by having an earthquake hit them.  Everything is a matter of balancing risks, and sometimes you lose the gamble, even if you make the right decisions.  Had they advised people to stay outside, and an earthquake had NOT happened, then they would have been castigated for crying wolf, and causing unnecessary suffering.

The claim is clear: "on which basis you tell people that there is not danger of a larger temblor from small quakes whether is impossible to know it"? They have substituted an impossibility with another impossibility held for true; moreover with the undue powership upon public security authorities (the core trial, there are documents and telephone interceptions proofing this). To quit down the OT, must be clear that to say italian seismologists were put on trial for not having predict an earthquake is a "fake news". They have been put on trial because gave undue orders upon public security authorities on the basis of something impossible to predict causing injuries to people. People asked for outside shelters, not that would have to do return in their houses.



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Posted 22 February 2019 - 12:05 PM

It's all a matter of playing the odds, because the chances were much greater of them being harmed by staying out in the cold than by having an earthquake hit them.  Everything is a matter of balancing risks, and sometimes you lose the gamble, even if you make the right decisions.  Had they advised people to stay outside, and an earthquake had NOT happened, then they would have been castigated for crying wolf, and causing unnecessary suffering.

A lose-lose situation.




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