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#26 Mr. Mike

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 08:20 PM

I have just one.  The reason? I can only realistically use one scope at a time.  It gets the job done.  Doesn’t mean I won’t end up with more at some point but one is really good enough for me. ;)


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Posted 09 March 2019 - 08:23 PM

ST120 - bought this to get back into the hobby. My C8 on a pod with wedge just felt too clunky for GnG which is the way I wanted to go. The 120 is on a TW 1 with encoders now and SS Plus on my phone.

I thought it might be good to have something a bit more portable for real quick looks or travel, so I bought an ST80 clone (Meade) after reading a lot of reviews and comments here. The 80 is on a pan head on a Benro tripod.

I love the push-to encoders on the 120, but the 80 (“Delmar”) is turning out to be a lot of fun.

I suppose one day I might buy an apo, but I’m satisfied for now.
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Posted 09 March 2019 - 08:31 PM

4 SW Equinox models; 120, 100, 80, 66.

3 Tele Vue; 100 Genesis, 85 Apo, 70 Pronto

2 Takahashi; TSA120, FC100DL

1 Vixen; A80M

 

So 10.


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#29 Esso2112

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 08:37 PM

I have quite a few ranging from 42mm to 175mm. They serve different purposes. Some are purely visual, some are more for imaging.  

 

Different focal lengths, so it’s basically like having a bunch of prime focus lenses for you camera. Pick the best scope to frame the object you’re imaging and use one of the others visually while the hours tick away imaging. No one wants to watch a guiding graph for hours. 


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Posted 09 March 2019 - 10:38 PM

AR6 for DSO.
A105M for GNG
ED103S for EAA
PST for SOL

Total of 4, no real overlap, they all get used. Could I use the ED103S for GNG and EAA? Maybe, but if I have to swap a diagonal on, rotate the tube 90 degrees for the alt az mount, throw it in my GNG bag with the GNG mount, then it doesn’t really feel like GNG to me.

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 11:08 PM

I have some. I will have more and then I will have less. When I have less I'll, in a way, have more, because the ones remaining will be better. They will tend to be larger. Taken as an averaged whole, the 'stock/flock/inventory' should be seen to have improved and diminished. I could give you a number, but as some mistakenly identify quantity with stupidity, I find I must refrain from divulging any accurate sort of number.

 

How ever many I have, have had, or will have (but not "will have had") are to support world peace and the elimination of hunger, whilst championing human rights of every sort, furthering education, and preserving history without regard for income, culinary tendencies or promiscuity.

 

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 11:16 PM

I have only one refractor now, and it also happens to be my only telescope. I'm mainly an imager and I mostly shoot from home, so portability isn't something I need (after all, my mount is usually the limiting factor in terms of portability). As such, I simply get the best (and biggest) refractor I can afford
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Posted 09 March 2019 - 11:19 PM

One, because every reflector deserves a little buddy guide scope


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Posted 09 March 2019 - 11:31 PM

Well umm...not counting straight through finders, of which I have 5 or 6...and setting aside the Monkey Ward refractor, which is really more of a PITA than anything else....I guess five, one is incoming, and one is currently on sale, so I guess I'll stay at five.

 

Two have the job of riding on top of my SCTs:  81 mm f/7.7 and 102 mm f/6.5.

One is too heavy, relative to the mounting hardware I use on my SCTs, for that task, it's 102 mm f/6.4

The incoming 92 mm f/6.9 should not be too heavy to ride on SCTs and it may also, I hope, prove the most adept of my refractors at solar in addition to being a top notch night time scope.  This should be a top tier international instrument, as below.

And one, 130 mm f/6.3, is one of the premier refractors in the world and I waited many years for it.

 

That's about it.  So , going down to four, then going back up to five.  It is possible that the one I have on sale won't sell by the time the one that's coming is here, so then I'll have six, and I'll have to figure out what to do to thin the herd.

 

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 11:51 PM

you have your refractors clustered around the similar aperture. Why is that?  does your 72 do anything diff than the 80?

The 72mm is an F5.8 apo for wide angle viewing only, when that urge strikes. The 70mm was won as a prize and I'm hanging on to it in case I come across a deserving child who's family doesn't have the financial means to buy him/her a telescope so that I may donate it to them.  The 80,90 and 100mm scopes are for lunar/planetary and double star observing.  I used to have larger refractors but physical/age limitations have forced me to go to smaller apertures.  Each of these instruments has their own nuances and uniqueness and serve a particular need(s) for my observing demands.


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Posted 10 March 2019 - 01:08 AM

Just cause. No need to justify.


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#37 AstroKerr

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 01:38 AM

4 SW Equinox models; 120, 100, 80, 66.

3 Tele Vue; 100 Genesis, 85 Apo, 70 Pronto

2 Takahashi; TSA120, FC100DL

1 Vixen; A80M

 

So 10.

I have been looking at both of those - how do you like them? 


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Posted 10 March 2019 - 01:45 AM

I have 6 refractors:

 

Tasco 60mm F/13 achro - my 1st scope from the 1960's.

Tele Vue Ranger 70mm ED - my travel / ultra-grab-and-go scope.

Vixen ED102SS - F/6.5 so capable of wide views as well as 200x plus. I've owned this one for more than a decade now.

Tak FC-100DL - last of the 1st run that was available in the UK. Superb views, zero CA and very quick cool down.

Skywatcher ED120 - an older gold / cream livery one. Excellent scope and competes well. Owned for at least 7 years.

TMB/LZOS 130mm F/9.2 triplet - As large as I'm comfortable with. Superb optics in every way.

 

I do wonder from time to time about letting one or two of these go but I don't think it would be easy to decide which could go ?

Would you purchase the FC-100DL again? Is it a peach? Fluorite & f/9. awesome?



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Posted 10 March 2019 - 01:53 AM

One. I like Reflectors better. laugh.gif


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Posted 10 March 2019 - 02:10 AM

I have 3, and still looking for a shorter scope for wide field.

The DL100 is my biggest love however. 

I came across a TMB130/1200 by accident on the local market with a lot of accessories, at first I was making myself believe, that I bought it for the benefit of what was coming with it and was planning to sell the scope. quickly realized however that selling such scope would be a big mistake, so there I have it also permanent stable , mind you while considering myself 90% imager. So had to get my ultimate dream scope the TOA130NFB. 

Gonna let me have one more, possibly an FSQ85 and be done in refractor land. I don't see myself being able to let any of them go, so I guess a growing stable with all close to my heart. I guess a lot of us here getting a small collection for similar sentimental reasons where once you have it, you just can't imagine letting it go. If I don't run into financial trouble only age will make me sell them and at that point the DL will be my only freind smile.gif


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Posted 10 March 2019 - 05:48 AM

few smile.gif (This photo is also missing my Takahashi FC100DF). I like having a range of apertures depending on where and what I’m observing. A little while ago I was considering thinning these down but instead I had a reorganisation of my astro cupboard and they now reside in there nicely.

 

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 06:33 AM

Would you purchase the FC-100DL again? Is it a peach? Fluorite & f/9. awesome?

Yes, yes and yes !

 

If I do decide to let some go, I doubt that the Tak will be among those.


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Posted 10 March 2019 - 07:10 AM

All three of my scopes are refractors.

 

SV85S on a Stellarvue M1 alt/az - travel / grab and go

SV102V on a CG-5 ASGT - general observing

TMB 130SS on a CGEM - when I have time for serious observing

 

Looking to add a Coronado Solarmax III DS H-Alpha setup to the mix.

Shhhh... there are people that think you can’t do serious observing if you don’t have at least an 8” scope...we don’t want to disturb them from their natural habitat on a ladder.    


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Posted 10 March 2019 - 07:27 AM

I have been looking at both of those - how do you like them? 

DL is excellent, CA free, it is an addictive scope. TSA was only new last week, and I have not had the chance for first light yet.


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Posted 10 March 2019 - 08:24 AM

This is a timely topic, as I have been thinking for a while of adding another refractor and find I'm having hard time justifying it, since it's another four-inch, and I already have two of those.  I've been wondering if I can justify having multiples in the same aperture.

 

I now have a Vixen ED103S f/7.7, a quietly superb refractor.  It was my first four-inch refractor, and I decided on that one because it was the nicest of the used four-inch refractors I was coming across at the time I was looking.

 

Then last November, I got a Celestron C102F, f/8.8, because fluorite -- and that specific model -- had been a dream of mine for a while.  I have not had the opportunity to do it justice yet (lousy skies, lousy weather), but I'm pretty sure I'm going to love it.

 

There is another certain four-inch refractor that I have been seeking for a very long time, but I'm just not sure it's going to do anything for me that my current two cannot.  So do I buy a telescope not because I need it but because I love it and want it?  Will I actually use all three of them?  Could I eventually bring myself to sell one of them?  Should I forget getting a third four-inch and seek out a five-inch?  I just don't know the answers to any of those questions.

 

I also have a TV-85, which has become my grab-n-go and is a fantastic instrument for so many reasons that I can't ever see myself being without it.

 

And then I have the very first telescope of any kind that I ever bought, a Celestron CO-60E on a Vixen Polaris mount.  I've kept it all this time strictly for sentimental reasons.  I'm seriously thinking of selling that one.  Now that I have the TV-85 for my small refractor, I will probably never use the 60mm again.


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Posted 10 March 2019 - 08:39 AM

DL is excellent, CA free, it is an addictive scope. TSA was only new last week, and I have not had the chance for first light yet.

 

 

Yes, yes and yes !

 

If I do decide to let some go, I doubt that the Tak will be among those.

Thank you, gentlemen!  I'm trying to decide to do StarWave 102, DL, or TSA. I'm liking the Starwave's f/11 but I've a feeling either of the Taks, though short & shorter, have the glass & figure to surpass it. I've even thought the Star and the TSA - an f/7.5 triplet seems different enough from an f/11 doublet that they wouldn't overlap as much as the Star & DL - but I do like that DL...



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Posted 10 March 2019 - 09:01 AM

I have two refractors and don't feel the need for any more.

 

My TEC 140 has been my favorite scope for the past ten years and it is the biggest refractor I could comfortably manage.

 

The Tak FC-100DC is the first four inch refractor I have owned in a few years and it has been an absolute delight to use.

 

I don't need or want anything bigger or smaller than these, but if I have to downsize from the TEC 140 because of my health, then I will probably get another FS-128 or TSA-120.

 

Cheers,

 

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 10:00 AM

I have always been a fan of Japanese and German optics, for 40 years. To me they are jewels.

 

Vixen and now Takahashi are blindly easy to buy. If either brought out a long FL130 doublet, especially fluorite, I reckon they would sell.

 

It has been said the TSA120 is as good as the FL127 was. But all are classics, already or destined to be. 

 

Choosing again, with much more knowledge now, a Vixen SD115 would be edging out my Tak DL I think, and a FC76 would follow the 115. 


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Posted 10 March 2019 - 10:19 AM

Are there refreshments?

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 02:59 PM

I have six refractors, with some apertures duplicated: 60, 60, 80, 80, 85, 106. Reasons are more aesthetic than rational, though living under a light dome, there are conditions under which less aperture is a practical advantage.

 

The Takahashi FS-60Q is compact and light, kept to 1.25" for travel and g&g. It's also razor sharp visually.

 

The FOA-60Q is an even sharper f/15 stunner, as close to visual perfection as is practically attainable, which is why I have it too.

 

The two LOMO 80mm scopes are an indulgence, f/6 and f/7.5. I just had to see for myself whether they are as reputed. They are. I don't really need them but they have a very specific, visually-cold, contrasty viewing aesthetic which is interesting enough to keep.

 

The Takahashi FSQ-85EDX is a wide field miracle of compact optics that can also drive higher magnifications via Takahashi's excellent Extender 1.5X.

 

The FSQ-106ED fills my 4" slot with all the admirable attributes of the 85 in a similarly short, fat, but scaled-up tube.

 

I use them all exclusively visually.

 

Phil


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