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#1 25585

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 02:07 PM

My count is 3 US (Tele Vue), 3 Japanese (2× Takahashi, 1x Vixen), 4 Chinese (all Sky Watcher).

 



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Posted 18 March 2019 - 02:15 PM

Hmm, let's see:

 

Takahashi (Japan):  2  (Sky90, FS60C)

William Optics (Taiwan/China):  1 (ZenithStar 61)

TeleVue (USA):  2 (NP101, TV85)

 

I do plan on getting another WO refractor later this year, that'll even things out at 2 for each country...!

 

Edit: shoot, I forgot my Orion ST80!  I'm already at 2 per country! :)


Edited by OldManSky, 18 March 2019 - 02:16 PM.


#3 Peter Besenbruch

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 02:22 PM

Technically, Televue is as American as Skywatcher. Televue's refractors are made overseas (Taiwan?).



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Posted 18 March 2019 - 02:35 PM

Technically, Televue is as American as Skywatcher. Televue's refractors are made overseas (Taiwan?).

 

The lenses are sourced from, I think, Japan, the OTA's are machined in the U.S.  TeleVue assembles the OTA's at the NY location.


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#5 Stanislaus

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 02:48 PM

Your question makes no sense to me. Why don't you edit it.


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#6 Jon Isaacs

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 02:48 PM

Technically, Televue is as American as Skywatcher. Televue's refractors are made overseas (Taiwan?).

Everything but the optics is made in the US.  The optics are designed in the US and made in Japan, the scopes are assembled and tested in New York.. 

 

Seems very different from the Skywatcher/Synta model... 

 

Myself:

 

Two Televues.. 

 

Lots of Japanese, Chinese and Taiwanese scopes.

 

Jon


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 02:55 PM

1 from East Germany, Zeiss Jena

1 from Japan, Pentax

2 from Synthaland, ES and TS

 

 

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 03:02 PM

(1) Televue - U.S.A.

(1) William Optics - Taiwan

(2) Stellarvue - ? China, Tawain?

(2) Takahashi - Japan

(2) Orion - China

(1) APM - Germany/China

(1) Celestron - China



#9 Aleksandr Naumov

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 03:26 PM

1. Agema Optics - U.S.A. - best of the best !

2. Takahashi - Japan

3. Explore Scientific, AstroTech - China

4. Zeiss Telementor - G.D.R. (German Democratic Republic) *

5. ТМШ - U.S.S.R. (soviet Maksutov School Telescope) *   **

 

* - unfortunately, I was not an owner of these scopes, but observed with these for many years.

** - well, not a refractor and not a reflector, however unique telescope, grandfather of Questar (?)


Edited by Aleksandr Naumov, 18 March 2019 - 04:15 PM.


#10 Tyson M

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 03:37 PM

I dont think anything is made in Canada, so every one that I owned. Which was a fair number.


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 03:41 PM

China, China, China, China, China, China.... thats my six refractors....


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:00 PM

1. Stellarvue - Rusia (LOMO)

2. Vixen - Japan - TWO

3.  US - AP

4.  China  ST80 clone dont remember name, Canadian rebrand

5.  Poland-Hungary CFF

 

As you can see, I've had some bad experiences with China stuff, #4 was my first refractor.  And it's not limited to optics.  My subsequent decisions show that experience.

 

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:08 PM

1. Stellarvue - Rusia (LOMO)

2. Vixen - Japan - TWO

3.  US - AP

4.  China  ST80 clone dont remember name, Canadian rebrand

5.  Poland-Hungary CFF

 

As you can see, I've had some bad experiences with China stuff, #4 was my first refractor.  And it's not limited to optics.  My subsequent decisions show that experience.

 

Greg N

 

You spend a $100 on a made in China achromat and actually draw conclusions from that.,.. 

 

I have a Vixen 62mm F/5 acromat, it's a cemented doublet with horrible optics, makes an ST-80 look like one of Roland's creations... 

 

I guess that means I best avoid Vixen in the future..  :ubetcha:

 

Jon



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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:10 PM

1. Stellarvue - Rusia (LOMO)

Wow, it must be pretty rare model from LOMO (Leningrad optical and mechanical factory).

As far a I've heard, most Stellarvue refractors are made at LZOS (Lytkarino optical glass factory)


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:57 PM

Hmmm.

Stellarvue:

SV102ABV (2)-LOMO, Russia.

SV115T-LZOS, Russia

SV110ED-?, China

SVA130EDT-?, China (

 

1. Agema Optics - U.S.A. - best of the best !

2. Takahashi - Japan

3. Explore Scientific, AstroTech - China

4. Zeiss Telementor - G.D.R. (German Democratic Republic) *

5. ТМШ - U.S.S.R. (soviet Maksutov School Telescope) *   **

 

* - unfortunately, I was not an owner of these scopes, but observed with these for many years.

** - well, not a refractor and not a reflector, however unique telescope, grandfather of Questar (?)

 

Optics do not start from the US even if they machine their own optics like Astro-Physics, TEC, TeleVue, and now Stellarvue also.



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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:59 PM

Technically, Televue is as American as Skywatcher. Televue's refractors are made overseas (Taiwan?).

False. The glass is Japanese. All machining and assembling is done here. So the Skywatcher comparison is far off.


Edited by alnitak22, 18 March 2019 - 05:01 PM.

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 05:14 PM

Hmmm. Not going to discuss mechanicals as most everyone does it their own way from where ever they need to get/make it. Current or previously owned. Classic small Japanese refractors not listed.

Stellarvue:
SV102ABV(2) - LOMO, Russia.
SV110ED - ?, China.
SV115T - LZOS, Russia.
SVA130EDT - ?, China (Japan also).

Pentax:
75EDHF - Pentax, Japan.
Pentax 85 - Pentax, Japan.

Vixen:
100ED - Vixen, China.
ED102SS - Vixen, Japan.
ED114SS - Vixen, Japan.

TEC:
TEC140ED - TEC, Japan.

Oasis (Borg)
Borg 150ED - Oasis, Japan.

Meade:
152ED/APO - Meade, Japan.

Astro-Tech:
AT115EDT - Astro-Tech, China (maybe Japan also).

TMB:
TMB 80 SS - APM, China (not LZOS).

Carton:
60mm F7 - Carton, Japan.
100mm F13 - Carton, Japan.

D&G:
6" F15 - Jaegers, USA.

All that being said the American companies in the list always, with few exceptions build them themselves, although parts can come from elsewhere sometimes.

Edited by photoracer18, 18 March 2019 - 05:19 PM.

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 05:19 PM

Hmmm. Not going to discuss mechanicals as most everyone does it their own way from where ever they need to get/make it. Current or previously owned. Classic small Japanese refractors not listed.

 

But you're right.  My Polish refractor has a U.S. FT focuser.  One of my two Vixens has a Moonlite, which is U.S.  So there is a lot of mix and matching going on.  And it gets worse if one adds in finders and mounts.

 

For some people "a telescope" means the scope, the mount, the tripod, and a couple of eyepieces.  Because that's the way they are frequently sold.  They don't learn about the mix and matching and customization till much later.

 

  GN



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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:19 PM

Technically, Televue is as American as Skywatcher. Televue's refractors are made overseas (Taiwan?).

Televue refractors are made in the US, the optics are made in Japan. Read this article about the CNC machine sub- contractors near Televue headquarters. Just some Televue eyepieces are made in Taiwan. (But ALL are inspected by Televue in the US before shipping)

 

https://www.cloudyni...vue-np101-r1691


Edited by Mike W, 18 March 2019 - 06:39 PM.

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:41 PM

2 Stellarvue - Russia (LOMO)

 

I really need to branch out a little.



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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:55 PM

4.  China  ST80 clone dont remember name, Canadian rebrand

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Vista 508 SE?



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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:58 PM

My beauty of a NewStar 70mm f/10 refractor is actually a SkyWatcher Mercury 707 in Canadian clothing (a parka perhaps?), so I'm going to go with "What is China, Alex?" smile.gif

 

70mm f/10 refractor on an EQ5 mount

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 07:06 PM

I’m all China. 


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 07:52 PM

I have no clue. Had well over a 100 of them over the years.



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Posted 18 March 2019 - 10:10 PM

Unitron 40mm; Sears (Royal Optics) 90mm..... Japan

 

Zeiss 50mm..... Germany

 

Brandon 75mm; Tinsley 100mm.....USA

 

Celestron 80mm; Orion 120mm.....China




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