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#51 reddog1972

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 02:30 PM

The basic rule of thumb for imaging is based on the SQM brightness of the skies.  For each magnitude of darkness the sky becomes (going from SQM 19.0 to SQM 20.0), you can image roughly 2.5 times more quickly due to darker skies/greater contrast.  I live in roughly SQM 18.0-18.2 skies and imaging at Cherry Springs (which is roughly 21.8 to 21.9 during a new moon), that gives me roughly a 35 to 1 benefit of imaging, which means I typically get a years worth of imaging quality at a typical star party held there, considering i'm out with multiple rigs at this event.


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Posted 16 August 2019 - 01:24 PM

I am honestly torn about what to image.

How about M2, M13, M15, M16, M17, M20, M22, M27, M30, M56, M57, M71, M92, NGC 891, NGC 6543, NGC 6572, NGC 7293, NGC 7331, or NGC 7662?  



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Posted 16 August 2019 - 05:49 PM

How about M2, M13, M15, M16, M17, M20, M22, M27, M30, M56, M57, M71, M92, NGC 891, NGC 6543, NGC 6572, NGC 7293, NGC 7331, or NGC 7662?  

I would say ngc7293.



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Posted 17 August 2019 - 07:06 AM

Just a note to everyone - If you missed registration, or you are no longer able to attend a Star Party, and you wish to buy/sell a ticket, CN's Terms of Service do NOT allow you to post requests to buy/sell tickets in the open Forums. Your best bet is to post  either a 'Wanted' or 'For Sale' ad in the Classifieds or Swap and Shop Forums. Thanks for your co-operation.


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Posted 18 August 2019 - 11:27 PM

How about M2, M13, M15, M16, M17, M20, M22, M27, M30, M56, M57, M71, M92, NGC 891, NGC 6543, NGC 6572, NGC 7293, NGC 7331, or NGC 7662?  

I dont plan to waste dark skies on clusters.  but some of the others are absolute contenders.  Helix nebula definitely.  


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Posted 21 August 2019 - 11:13 AM

Just a note to everyone - If you missed registration, or you are no longer able to attend a Star Party, and you wish to buy/sell a ticket, CN's Terms of Service do NOT allow you to post requests to buy/sell tickets in the open Forums. Your best bet is to post  either a 'Wanted' or 'For Sale' ad in the Classifieds or Swap and Shop Forums. Thanks for your co-operation.

If you missed registration and you are looking for tickets to BFSP 2019  OR  if you need to cancel (and want to make your tickets available to someone else), you can contact the BSFP directly at    BlackForestStarParty@gmail.com

 

We maintain a waiting list and facilitate exchanges with those needing to cancel, if any occur.

 

Thanks!
Bill Gartner
BFSP 2019 Star Party chairperson


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Posted 22 August 2019 - 09:27 PM

Got my registration and reservation at Frosty Hollow B&B!

I have never observed from such a dark location and would welcome suggestions for objects that will particularly benefit from the dark skies. So far I have M31, M33, the Helix and the California nebula. I’m sure there are plenty more; it would be great to have a list of the most promising ones to make the most of my opportunity.

Thanks,
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Posted 22 August 2019 - 11:12 PM

Here are some DSOs to consider: B86 (the Ink Spot), B142/143 (Barnard's E), LDN 1773 (the Pipe Nebula), M74, NGC 246 (the Skull Nebula), NGC 253 (the Silver Coin Galaxy), NGC 288, NGC 891, NGC 1514 (the Crystal Ball Nebula), NGC 6231 (the Northern Jewel Box Cluster) and the False Comet, NGC 6888 (the Crescent Nebula), NGC 6946 (the Fireworks Galaxy), NGC 6960 et al (the Veil Nebula complex), NGC 7000 (the North America Nebula), NGC 7320 et al (Stephan's Quintet), NGC 7331 et al, and NGC 7789 (Caroline's Rose).


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Posted 23 August 2019 - 10:25 AM

Now we are getting someplace.  Coordinating  imaging is fun. 

 

Maybe we can goof off and everyone get some data on a subject and make a stack of EVERYONES data on that target?   Should be interesting to see with all the various focal lengths and what not.  Maybe coordinate focal lengths? (1K sound like a nice round number?)


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Posted 27 August 2019 - 10:15 PM

We are just a month away from BFSP 2019!  If you have not recently checked our web page (www.bfsp.org) or gotten our tweets, here are a few updates:

 

Speaker lineup
Noon: Larry McHenry
115PM: Jeffrey Norwood
230PM: Trevor Jones
4pm: Keynote Mel Bartels

 

Food vendors:

The Fizzy Bee of York, PA and Sweet Caroline’s BBQ of Wellsboro, PA will be providing food and beverages for the 2019 Black Forest Star Party.  Information about hours and food offerings will be posted to the web page as they become available.  Fox’s Pizza will not be joining us this year.

 

Raffle prizes are being tweeted as they arrive. Follow us on Twitter @black_forest_sp for the latest. (Tweets are also posted to our web page).

 

 

See you soon!

 

Bill Gartner

BFSP 2019 Star Party chairperson


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Posted 28 August 2019 - 08:33 AM

I'd like to see someone attempt NGC3445.  It's one of the ARP objects of obscure galaxies (ARP 24) in Ursa Major.



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Posted 28 August 2019 - 07:16 PM

Depending on the weather.....I'll either get there before dusk on Wed or Thursday early afternoon!   Hoping for clear skies!



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Posted 03 September 2019 - 09:26 PM

How many of you are planning to go to the park early?  Maybe Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday? I kinda want to get an idea if I might have some help unloading on one of those days. The ol' back has been acting up lately. gramps.gif  I'm going to shoot for Wednesday myself (weather permitting of course)


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Posted 04 September 2019 - 06:22 PM

Wed here.


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Posted 05 September 2019 - 12:57 PM

How many of you are planning to go to the park early?  Maybe Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday? 

 

I am arriving Friday 9/20 - the week prior to the star party.  The earlier I go up and the longer I stay increases the chances of getting at least a couple of decent nights.  But, even then, there absolutely no guarantee.


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Posted 05 September 2019 - 02:48 PM

If anyone attending the BFSP wants a great restaurant recommendation, Olga Gallery, Cafe & Bistro in Coudersport is excellent. It's downtown at the SE corner of the intersection of Rte. 6 and 44. I've been going there for several years when I'm at Cherry Springs and the food never disappoints. Magnificent interior, too. The owners, John and Olga, are friendly and welcoming. John is an amateur astronomer and he's highly active in working to maintain and improve the region's dark skies.

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 03:59 PM

If anyone attending the BFSP wants a great restaurant recommendation, Olga Gallery, Cafe & Bistro in Coudersport is excellent. It's downtown at the SE corner of the intersection of Rte. 6 and 44. I've been going there for several years when I'm at Cherry Springs and the food never disappoints. Magnificent interior, too. The owners, John and Olga, are friendly and welcoming. John is an amateur astronomer and he's highly active in working to maintain and improve the region's dark skies.

Mike

 

Hey Mike - Food at Cherry springs is important to me as I am generally up there for a week or more at a time...   I have eaten at Olga's a few times, but not in the last few years.

 

I did not know that John was an amateur astronomer.  He never made mention of it on the times we've been there, but good to know.  I have had an uneven experience at pizza shop a few doors down from Olga's.  Great food, horrible service.  We generally hit the Sweden Valley Inn a few times for dinner and almost every morning go to Fezz's Diner for breakfast.  For this BFSP we plan to go into Wellsboro for a meal.    

 

The interior of Olga's is really nice - especially the oak throughout.  Olga is an artist and her art adorns the walls and is sold in the front of the restaurant.  The building was owned by the John Regas family - same folks who owned Adlephia Communications.  Coudersport was the HQ for Adelphia, and was largely a company town.  Many residents worked directly (or indirectly) for Adelphia Communications.   In 2002, When the Father and Sons of the Regas family were jailed, and Adelphia was sold and relocted, the town never really recovered.

 

Anyway, more then you wanted to know, I am sure.

 

Hope to run into you again.


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Posted 05 September 2019 - 04:38 PM

If anyone attending the BFSP wants a great restaurant recommendation, Olga Gallery, Cafe & Bistro in Coudersport is excellent. It's downtown at the SE corner of the intersection of Rte. 6 and 44. I've been going there for several years when I'm at Cherry Springs and the food never disappoints. Magnificent interior, too. The owners, John and Olga, are friendly and welcoming. John is an amateur astronomer and he's highly active in working to maintain and improve the region's dark skies.

Mike

Sounds like a great place to spend some "astronomy" support money at and get a good meal!  Maybe a few of us should "gang up" and pay them a visit. grin.gif


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Posted 05 September 2019 - 04:42 PM

I am arriving Friday 9/20 - the week prior to the star party.  The earlier I go up and the longer I stay increases the chances of getting at least a couple of decent nights.  But, even then, there absolutely no guarantee.

Yeah, and it's hurricane season to boot. But CSSP has it's own "weather" that defies even the "experts" lol.gif Who knows, if circumstances are favorable, I might head up sooner than Wednesday.  I need the "vacation" time too. tongue2.gif 


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Posted 05 September 2019 - 06:41 PM

Hey Mike - Food at Cherry springs is important to me as I am generally up there for a week or more at a time...   I have eaten at Olga's a few times, but not in the last few years.

 

I did not know that John was an amateur astronomer.  He never made mention of it on the times we've been there, but good to know.  I have had an uneven experience at pizza shop a few doors down from Olga's.  Great food, horrible service.  We generally hit the Sweden Valley Inn a few times for dinner and almost every morning go to Fezz's Diner for breakfast.  For this BFSP we plan to go into Wellsboro for a meal.    

 

The interior of Olga's is really nice - especially the oak throughout.  Olga is an artist and her art adorns the walls and is sold in the front of the restaurant.  The building was owned by the John Regas family - same folks who owned Adlephia Communications.  Coudersport was the HQ for Adelphia, and was largely a company town.  Many residents worked directly (or indirectly) for Adelphia Communications.   In 2002, When the Father and Sons of the Regas family were jailed, and Adelphia was sold and relocted, the town never really recovered.

 

Anyway, more then you wanted to know, I am sure.

 

Hope to run into you again.

Here's a shot of the inside of Olga's, looking up towards the skylights, that I took last week while dining there. Woodwork is fantastic, as you mention.

Mike

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 06:47 PM

Sounds like a great place to spend some "astronomy" support money at and get a good meal!  Maybe a few of us should "gang up" and pay them a visit. grin.gif

Agreed! I feel it's important to support a local establishment that supports our hobby--and the great food makes it easy to recommend.

Mike


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Posted 05 September 2019 - 10:30 PM

BATTLE PLAN

 

I am consolidating my thoughts on my objectives in this post.

 

I plan to arrive Wed before the party and leave the wed after, which gives me a week to get a huge assortment of stuff.  If you want to add some input to this list... or just rip it off by all means.

 

My focal lengths with my 2 scopes are:

1624 FF  GSO 8" R/C scope native focal length with field flattener 

1088 FR  GSO 8" R/C scope focal reduced to 1088 (tolerable field curvature)

700  Explore Scientific ED 102 with nothing (field curvature...yucky) 

500 FF/R Explore Scientific ED 102 w/ 0.7 Field Flattener/Reducer 

 

Same camera (QHY163C OSC) and my subs will vary from 60 seconds for clusters (I know I said I wouldn't) 100, 150, and 200 seconds. (100 Gain / 50 offset)

 

Day 1

2000 - 2200 Andromeda Galaxy  500FF/R 100 sec

2200 - 0100 Helix Nebula  1624FF 200 sec 

0100 - 0500 M1 1624FF 200 sec

 

Day 2

2000 - 0000 Pelican Nebula 500 FF/R 100 sec

0000 - 0500 Heart Nebula 500 FF/R 100 sec

 

Day 3

2000 - 0000 Lobster Claw Nebula 500 FF/R 100 sec

0000 - 0200 Pleiades Cluster 500 FF/R 60 sec

0200 - 0500 Orion Nebula 500 FF/R 60 sec

 

Day 4

2000 - 2200 M13 Cluster 500 FF/R 60 sec

2200 - 0200 Eagle Nebula 500 FF/R 100 sec

0200 - 0500 Flame/Horsehead Nebulas 500 FF/R 100 sec

 

Day 5

2000 - 0200 Triple Cave Nebula 500 FF/R 200 sec

0200 - 0500 Casper the friendly Ghost Nebula 500 FF/R 200 sec

 

Day 6

2000 - 0100 Iris Nebula 500 FF/R 200 sec

0100 - 0500 Jellyfish Nebula 500 FF/R 100 sec

 

I truly in my heart don't believe I am that lucky of a human being to get 6 days of clear skies...  so whatever day(s) I get I will have to prioritize.  

 

On a side note... the field flattener that i use with my 8" R/C scope MAY work with my ED 102??  Will have to try it out the next clear night.


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 09:53 AM

Getting close!  I hope the weather holds up too. Getting my 16" Dob all cleaned up and ready to go. It hasn't been used in quite a while so there was lots of dust on it. lol.gif  New batteries in the Sky Commander, Telrad, and laser collimator.  I'll probably also bring the trusty ol' 6" achro and solar wedge for some day star viewing. I no longer have an Ha filter so it will have to suffice. cool.gif  



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Posted 10 September 2019 - 12:14 PM

Has anybody checked with Bill lately at BFSP for the waiting list?



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Posted 10 September 2019 - 12:28 PM

To improve the chances of good weather, I am bringing my rain boots and tow strap.


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