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#1 CounterWeight

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 08:15 PM

Hello all,

 

I am a longtime SkyTools 3 user, and LOVE this software, have used to plan for imaging and visual, and like to keep nearby on a laptop while observing.  I no longer image but if you do please read on as I'd love to hear your thoughts too.  Years back had great email exchanges about the difficulty of base lining for NB filters from survey data, etc. for the exposure calc. When I was imaging I loved the exposure calculator, though I was doing long exposure narrowband, and fully understand and appreciate what he has tried to do in the new version. 

 

Wanted to ask if anyone here is using the SkyTools 4, having migrated from 3?  I currently have SkyTools 3 pro and am just curious are there or what compelling improvements in 4 as you perceive them in actual use.

 

I would like to ask folks to keep parroting, speculating, repeating press announcement, all that, to min or zero. in hopes anyone looking for real information can find it easily.

 

If you post in please list your computer type and OS and version for clarity, and how many years you've been a SkyTools user.

 

 



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Posted 24 May 2019 - 04:13 AM

The only version of ST4 available is the imaging one and Greg seems to think that visual observers should count themselves lucky to have ST3. There is no projected date for ST4V and I suspect that next year we will still be discussing it. As ST4I is complelely different form ST3 there is no conversion option. You would have to export lists and then reimport them. and then rebuild all your systems. So unless you are an imager then there is no point in updating to ST4I. Wherher or not it has gained much tarction amongst imagers I don't know as you see very little about it I have been an ST user since the first version


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#3 pjglad

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 09:46 PM

Skytools website - "We are currently testing and adding finishing touches to SkyTools 4 Visual. We expect it to be ready soon."



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Posted 26 May 2019 - 12:42 AM

Ya, that I am looking forward to. Anyone beta testing and can talk about it? If not I understand.



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Posted 26 May 2019 - 02:48 AM

Unfortunately that comment has been up for years and as far as I can see is a load of balls. Greg gets very upset if anyone pushes him on where ST4V is.

 

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 07:14 AM

Well, a few of us talked to him and his boss (wife) at the Texas Star Party a few weeks ago and he is certainly more personable in person than he would appear from his forums. From our discussions, I feel very confident that ST4 visual is closer than many think. 


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Posted 26 May 2019 - 08:05 AM

Ya, that I am looking forward to. Anyone beta testing and can talk about it? If not I understand.

I don't believe he's started the Beta test yet.  Seems like I read a post on the Community Support forum pages where he should be starting that very soon (early summer or something like that) followed by release.  But there was a post by Greg a short while back that he's not making any estimates or timetables now; seems he's been busy with working through the growing pains of the Imaging edition and its bugs, and then will concentrate on the Visual edition rollout (which is apparently done or nearly done and just awaiting Beta and release).

 

Although I'm perfectly content and happy with ST3 Pro as I don't have touch screen capability on either of my Win10 systems, I can't wait to see what ST4 Pro Visual will have to offer.



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Posted 26 May 2019 - 09:43 AM

Although I'm perfectly content and happy with ST3 Pro as I don't have touch screen capability on either of my Win10 systems, I can't wait to see what ST4 Pro Visual will have to offer.

I can tell you one thing I really am looking forward to and that's grabbing an chart/map and moving it around like every other tool out there. The current 'static' charts with no moving and the draconian zoom in and out is tiring.



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Posted 26 May 2019 - 02:30 PM

I upgraded yesterday, primarily because I found the design ST3's user interface of ST3 very ... quirky and at times annoying, as Tempus mentioned. I love the querying capabilities of ST (3 or 4). I cannot comment yet too much about ST4 (apart from a much improved UI) since I've only used it for about an hour but am looking forward to using it.


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