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Takahashi FSQ-130ED to be discontinued

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#1 StarDust1

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:00 PM

I think we have seen the last of Takahashi FSQ-130ED. Farewell you will be missed.

Official Takahashi notification:

http://www.takahashi...12_info_ep.html


Edited by StarDust1, 12 June 2019 - 01:05 PM.

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#2 StarDust1

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:09 PM

What did go wrong? Have we seen the last of FSQ-130?

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:31 PM

If they are discontinuing it I would assume it is due to production costs. And a 130mm being $16k which is an Uber niche market.

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:45 PM

I tried the 130 FSQ visually once. It’s hard to admit (I’ve always hated fast refractors) but was a phenomenal experience. If I were a millionaire I would have bought it! Chapeau Tak!

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 05:54 AM

Sadly it seems the FSQ-130ED will be discontinued according to Takahashi Japan news :-

http://www.takahashi...12_info_ep.html

 

I guessing sales were slow due to its price. It's a pity, it seemed like a beautiful scope.



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Posted 13 June 2019 - 06:34 AM

I can't say that I'm shocked to hear this... I wonder what the total sales were. Another thing working against Tak is that the price of an already expensive scope is even higher here in the US. 

 

It is a beautiful scope though. If you have one, hold on to it if you can...



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Posted 13 June 2019 - 07:31 AM

I kinda missed the opportunity few years back (before they increased the price too). I ended up picking up a Pentax 125SDP instead. I would agree if one had the FSQ-130ED to hang on to it.



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Posted 13 June 2019 - 11:19 AM

Perfect example of an overpriced product getting killed even without competition.

Not sure if at like 8-10k it would be still profitable for the company, but at that price I am sure they would have sold fast.


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 11:58 AM

Perfect example of an overpriced product getting killed even without competition.

Not sure if at like 8-10k it would be still profitable for the company, but at that price I am sure they would have sold fast.

I would think the $7k TV NP-127IS is competition. Same size, same quad setup, same flat field.


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 12:17 PM

I think the 130ED has five elements.



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Posted 13 June 2019 - 12:20 PM

Hey, they're now marketing an achromat.....



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Posted 13 June 2019 - 12:59 PM

I think the 130ED has five elements.

Yep, you are correct. Thought it was a quad.



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Posted 13 June 2019 - 03:26 PM

Look on the bright side.  Now that Takahashi has discontinued the FSQ-130, maybe it will introduce another big refractor!  Maybe a limited-run 130mm or 150mm fluorite doublet???  Manufacturers have to keep introducing new toys to separate the buyers from their money.


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 02:08 AM

Look on the bright side.  Now that Takahashi has discontinued the FSQ-130, maybe it will introduce another big refractor!  Maybe a limited-run 130mm or 150mm fluorite doublet???  Manufacturers have to keep introducing new toys to separate the buyers from their money.

Don't say that, secretly wishing for a big TAK doublet like a big fat DL or say F7.5 to keep the length manageable but be it a 9, I'll take it and go broke so that's why don't say thatwaytogo.gif



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Posted 14 June 2019 - 03:25 AM

Don't say that, secretly wishing for a big TAK doublet like a big fat DL or say F7.5 to keep the length manageable but be it a 9, I'll take it and go broke so that's why don't say that:waytogo:


Why don't you take an Agema meanwhile?
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Posted 14 June 2019 - 03:35 AM

Look on the bright side.  Now that Takahashi has discontinued the FSQ-130, maybe it will introduce another big refractor!  Maybe a limited-run 130mm or 150mm fluorite doublet???  Manufacturers have to keep introducing new toys to separate the buyers from their money.

TSA 140 would do....  


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 04:59 AM

...or if you don't care, a TSA 150 will be pretty nice too...



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Posted 14 June 2019 - 11:11 AM

It has had demand just crushed by that price tag.  There are lots of incredibly good alternatives starting at less than a third of that price.  If you have some custom built giant detector camera and a giant budget for some form of sky survey, this is the scope for you.  But after both of those people get their scopes, that’s that. Then there would be a modest number of people who just gotta have a Tak and price is no object, and I’m not sure I’ve ever met those folks. 

 

-Rich


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 12:26 PM

Why don't you take an Agema meanwhile?

Agema seems to me like it is a unicorn.  and appears the numbers show them to be heavy for doublets, in that case one might as well go for a triplet. 

If I was to go for a big doublet it would have to weigh less than say my LW130/1200. TAK FC style.

 

Shame for FSQ going out like this. Question is, was it really that expensive to create, or both TAK and their Authorized dealers wanted a big bite of the apple.

I almost played with the idea of selling all I have and buying one of those, but when I saw the price jump to 15k , I found that to be unacceptable. 


Edited by balu01, 14 June 2019 - 12:27 PM.

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 12:37 PM

NP127is will rule the 5 inch Petzval roost when all the FSQ130s are gone....


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 10:20 PM

I'm not convinced it ever lost any ground.

 

-Rich

NP127is will rule the 5 inch Petzval roost when all the FSQ130s are gone....


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 10:58 PM

I talked to Tak today about a couple other things. I asked about this and they said that it was expansive to make. Some parts were extremely expensive when not bought in quantity. I just told him what was stated above. That there are so many options in that aperture for 1/2 or less the price I don't understand what the market was for such an extravagant price. If people are spending $16k it is for a Planewave or something that large. Not a 130.

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Posted 15 June 2019 - 12:24 AM

What's wrong with the TOA 130?



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Posted 15 June 2019 - 12:55 AM

What's wrong with the TOA 130?



There is not a single thing wrong with the TOA130 ,
best scope there is in my eyes. But that doesn’t mean one can’t want them all LOL. Seriously , if I never got to buy an other scope I would be ok with owning just my TOA.
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Posted 15 June 2019 - 01:16 AM

What's wrong with the TOA 130?

 

The price.




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