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A night of bizarre objects and possible new PN found?

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#1 Procyon

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 04:02 AM

What a great night. Skysafari Pro 6 with a Mini Ipad worked great. I now place it face down so any light does not bother me. I've uploaded many weird observing lists/catalogs to it so it's really helpful/

Here's a typical night for me when Cygnus starts crossing the Meridian, it felt like a free for all DSO bonanza compared to Hercules. Maybe I'll go slower tomorrow night. And again, same as last year, I believe GAIA 2028755638001039616 is a PN and not a star. I keep finding it next to or underneath PN ARO 11 or Campbell's Hydrogen Star. Is there anyone I can ask to take a good look at it or verify? Coords: R.A. 19h 52m 43.90s Dec. +29º 04' 41.0º. Unless it's a really busy variable, but the dang thing really blinks every 2-5 seconds, cannot miss it. It did the same thing last year all summer. It was easier to see than Minkowski 4-17 a 14.6 magnitude PN. Dang, can't believe I could see a 14.6 PN in my backyard with an 11" SCT.

M 4-17 (Minkowski) Mon, Jun 24, 2019 3:38 AM NSOG DSO's Cygnus
NGC 6866 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 3:28 AM NSOG DSO's Cygnus
Cr 421 (Collinder open star clusters) Mon, Jun 24, 2019 3:27 AM
Be 86 (Berkeley open star clusters) Mon, Jun 24, 2019 3:26 AM
IC 4996 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 3:25 AM NSOG DSO's Cygnus
M 29 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 3:24 AM NSOG DSO's
Gamma Cygni Nebula Mon, Jun 24, 2019 3:24 AM NSOG DSO's Cygnus (Not really seen, even with NPB filter, just for reference)
NGC 6910 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 3:22 AM NSOG DSO's Cygnus
Bas 6 (Basel open star clusters) Mon, Jun 24, 2019 3:12 AM
NGC 6881 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 3:08 AM
IC 4996 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 3:08 AM NSOG DSO's Cygnus
Bi 2 (Biurakan open star clusters) Mon, Jun 24, 2019 3:04 AM
NGC 6871 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 3:03 AM NSOG DSO's Cygnus
Ro 4 (Roslund open star clusters) Mon, Jun 24, 2019 2:55 AM Untitled Session
NGC 6834 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 2:52 AM NSOG DSO's Cygnus
GAIA 2028755638001039616 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 2:51 AM
ARO 11 (Algonquin Radio Observatory) Mon, Jun 24, 2019 2:30 AM NSOG DSO's Cygnus
NGC 6811 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 2:27 AM NSOG DSO's Cygnus
PK 077+14.1 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 2:24 AM NSOG DSO's Cygnus
M 1-64 (Minkowski) Mon, Jun 24, 2019 2:16 AM NSOG DSO's Lyra
NGC 6791 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 2:09 AM NSOG DSO's Lyra
M 56 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 2:02 AM
Ring Nebula Mon, Jun 24, 2019 1:52 AM
Ste 1 (Stephenson open star clusters) Mon, Jun 24, 2019 1:48 AM
Vy 1-2 (Vyssotsky planetary nebulae) Mon, Jun 24, 2019 1:34 AM
T Dra Mon, Jun 24, 2019 1:20 AM Complete Red Star List 2019 240 Objects
Draco Dwarf Galaxy Mon, Jun 24, 2019 1:17 AM
PGC 59857 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 1:15 AM
NGC 5322 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 1:05 AM
Spindle Galaxy Mon, Jun 24, 2019 1:00 AM
NGC 6210 Mon, Jun 24, 2019 12:49 AM

Edited by Procyon, 25 June 2019 - 12:07 AM.

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 12:08 AM

PS> Could it be a Magnetar? Or Gravetar, Pulsar? Wishful thinking.

Edited by Procyon, 25 June 2019 - 02:29 AM.


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Posted 25 June 2019 - 01:39 AM

R.A. 19h 52m 43.90s Dec. +29º 04' 41.0º

 

Those co-ordinates lead me right to NGC 6834, but it can't be that because that is an open cluster.

I think maybe your setup was off a bit and you actually saw NGC-6842, which is really close by and very very faint.

 

https://www.google.c...iw=1024&bih=657

 

http://www.kopernik....chive/n6842.htm

 

https://in-the-sky.o....php?id=NGC6842


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Posted 25 June 2019 - 01:56 AM

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 02:12 AM

The nearest object of any significance besides the 2 you mentioned is PGC 1860719, a 17 Magnitude Galaxy.

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Here is all the info on this pulsating blinking object..disguising as a regular 12.5 mag star? You may need go to for this.

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 02:18 AM

The nearest object of any significance besides the 2 you mentioned is PGC 1860719, a 17 Magnitude Galaxy.

 

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Here is all the info on this pulsating blinking object..disguising as a regular 12.5 mag star? You really need go to for this.

 

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Ah, I see. Very different object altogether. Would be a neat thing to find!  

 

Won't need GoTo for it tho.



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Posted 25 June 2019 - 02:31 AM

The search is on tonight !!!!  :jump:  

 

I will let you know what I see. 


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Posted 29 June 2019 - 09:16 PM

I tried it with 22" Starmaster....didn't find it but was a little off on exact location. Was just to left of noted spot in image by about 1/3 minute. Will try again. Would love to see if someone else is able to view it.
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Posted 30 June 2019 - 12:14 PM

I tried it with 22" Starmaster....didn't find it but was a little off on exact location. Was just to left of noted spot in image by about 1/3 minute. Will try again. Would love to see if someone else is able to view it.
Gerry Stowe

Thanks Gerry. I found and asked a PN finding club/observatory in France as I couldn't find any here in the USA or Canada, but they needed pictures...I don't do any astrophotography.

Here are the coords in case anyone else feels like giving it a go.

Coords:

R.A. 19h 52m 43.90s
Dec. +29º 04' 41.0º

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Posted 30 June 2019 - 03:51 PM

post it on the deep sky hunters Yahoo group. That is jhat they do.

 

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Posted 30 June 2019 - 04:55 PM

ARO 11 (Campbell's Star ) is in Cygnus, GAIA 2028755638001039616 is in Vulpecula , so I'm a little confused.
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Posted 30 June 2019 - 05:48 PM

Interesting read on ARO 11.

https://www.cloudyni...anetary-nebula/

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Posted 30 June 2019 - 05:56 PM

ARO 11 (Campbell's Star ) is in Cygnus, GAIA 2028755638001039616 is in Vulpecula , so I'm a little confused.


Correct, I keep finding it underneath Open Cluster NGC 6834, not ARO 11, my bad.

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Posted 30 June 2019 - 06:00 PM

Right on the border, Got it. Thanks



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Posted 30 June 2019 - 06:55 PM

Yes, that's how I started searching the area. Put 6834 in the eyepiece, used Uranometria to star hop down to the pulsating star but in using the coordinates given and transposing onto the star charts I was off by 1/3 degree to left. When I got home I looked closer at this post and there was a great image of location. I erased my penciled in search circle in Uranometria and corrected search area. Will maybe be out again this Thurs and Fri.
Also while in area I star hopped to Footprint and Cambells. Both require high powers, especially the Footprint to see it's shape.
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Posted 01 July 2019 - 03:01 PM

OK guys...
Last night I had my 16" Starmaster out at home. SQM readings 18.20... So not dark but from second chart here I found it and all surrounding stars so I knew this was the guy. I set the tracking on and looked for about 35 minutes. Never saw any blinking. I was looking at the star on chart here that had the short white lines pointing to exact location so I was sure about its location this time. The only thing I noticed that was possibly dimming was the slightly dimmer star just under and slightly left. Could have been seeing conditions. I used powers from 207, 304, 457, and 914. May have been more evident from a darker sight.
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Posted 01 July 2019 - 03:05 PM

Ive seen weird blinking satellites that flash rapidly or slowly, without being visible otherwise. Periods of few seconds to minutes. Many of them are faint and slow moving. Just my hypothesis. 



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Posted 02 July 2019 - 10:15 AM

Ive seen weird blinking satellites that flash rapidly or slowly, without being visible otherwise. Periods of few seconds to minutes. Many of them are faint and slow moving. Just my hypothesis.


2nd year in a row I see it. Don't think it's a satellite lol. Maybe stars 12-14 magnitude will do this when observing at the limit of your 11" scope's viewing capacity? I dunno.
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Posted 02 July 2019 - 10:37 AM

Last night was usually clear and excellent seeing for my area. Had the 18" out and was able to use 300x most of the night.

I used Sky Safari Pro to find the exact Gaia star in question. Confirmed I had the correct star by matching the star field. Noticed the same effect gcs11 mentions below. Even tried OIII filter. There are many faint stars that appear with seeing and peripheral vision. Look at the target, second star pops into view. Look directly at second star , disappears. 

The only thing I noticed that was possibly dimming was the slightly dimmer star just under and slightly left. 



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Posted 04 July 2019 - 12:27 PM

2nd year in a row I see it. Don't think it's a satellite lol. Maybe stars 12-14 magnitude will do this when observing at the limit of your 11" scope's viewing capacity? I dunno.

Extremely faint stars will "blink" in and out sometimes when they are on the threshold of your scopes limiting magnitude ability.


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