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#1 starryhtx

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Posted 12 July 2019 - 09:39 PM

Is this a good one scope for general use? Not intended for Astrophotography. I need a scope that's easy to handle, portable, and has good optics, thank you!



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Posted 12 July 2019 - 11:09 PM

Quite decent, if a bit old.  I had the Celestron version.  That classic lens works better than was ever expected of it, at one time several manufacturers used it.  Nice color correction for a doublet.



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Posted 13 July 2019 - 12:40 AM

The Evostar 80ED is the current name for the Skywatcher ED-80...  This basic scope has been around since about 2003 when it was introduced as the Orion ED-80.. 

 

https://www.highpoin...num-case-s11100

 

The Orion version is the barebones OTA with a single speed focuser. 

 

https://www.telescop...cope/p/9895.uts

 

Vixen sells another version:

 

https://optcorp.com/...-telescope-2617

 

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 12:40 AM

Yes, it's an 80 mm FPL-53 doublet operating at f/7.5. It's essentially the same scope as the Orion 80ED which revolutionized the market for entry-level ED refractors around 2003. Beware that it's fairly large for a 80mm f/7.5 as it uses the same tube diameter as the ED100 f/9. Still, it's easy to handle, and an Orion 80ED on a Porta mount was my own primary grab-and-go scope scope for around 14-15 years; I only sold it to upgrade to a Vixen SD81S which is more portable and has even better optics.

 

As for the optical quality... my own Orion 80ED seems to have had mediocre optics, but the word going around is that there was a bit of variation in early samples (mine was bought around 2004). Quality is reportedly more consistent today, and many happy owners report of excellent optics in newer samples. If buying new, I wouldn't have any reservations. But if buying a used, old version, preferably try before you buy.

 

The 80ED and its larger siblings, the 100ED and 120ED have been considered some of the best bargains in amateur astronomy since they were introduced, being nice and affordable general-purpose scopes. The 100ED is usually considered the best of the pack, and my own experiences comparing my 100ED with my vintage Tak FC-100 does not contradict this. My 100ED, while not providing views which are neither as color-free, sharp and contrasty as the Tak, it still does in no way embarrass itself when comparing the views between the two scopes.


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Posted 13 July 2019 - 05:36 AM

Every SW scope i have owned has been super.  It should be a fine scope.



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Posted 13 July 2019 - 07:04 AM

https://regardsversl...un-peu.html?m=1

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#7 starryhtx

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 09:30 AM

Would you say it's better than the SV Acces 80?



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Posted 13 July 2019 - 09:38 AM

Would you say it's better than the SV Acces 80?

I would say no.

 

Chack here for some more opinions : https://www.cloudyni...er-pro-ed-80mm/


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Posted 13 July 2019 - 09:58 AM

Would you say it's better than the SV Acces 80?


I’d say it’s a better option for a beginner because it comes with all accessories one needs to start - maybe not the best but they do get the job done. Otherwise, the SV A80 - which doesn’t use the same glass anymore - is likely a preferred option due to better mechanics. But it’s also, comparatively, more expensive, especially if one considers its a pretty much a bare bone OTA.

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 01:12 PM

Would you say it's better than the SV Acces 80?

Depends, I would take the Skywatcher over the SV,it comes with everything,good quality diagonal,finder etc and a hard case which is preferable to the soft one the Access comes in, cost wise well here in Canada the Skywatcher comes in a bit less than the SV, the  Access is an import like the Skywatcher,all the Synta made ED 80,s that have crossed my path over the years have had consistantly good optics,D.


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Posted 13 July 2019 - 10:10 PM

I would say to either get a used one or wait for sale.   They do seem to go on sale probably more than once a year.  Also, earlier this year they did have a price increase on the Evostars.  It is a nice little scope.



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Posted 14 July 2019 - 12:14 AM

Yes, it's an 80 mm FPL-53 doublet operating at f/7.5. It's essentially the same scope as the Orion 80ED which revolutionized the market for entry-level ED refractors around 2003. Beware that it's fairly large for a 80mm f/7.5 as it uses the same tube diameter as the ED100 f/9. Still, it's easy to handle, and an Orion 80ED on a Porta mount was my own primary grab-and-go scope scope for around 14-15 years; I only sold it to upgrade to a Vixen SD81S which is more portable and has even better optics.

 

 

This is exactly my own route. I have the SW80ED with Schott glass. It has been a very functional and easy to use scope. It rides well on my Porta II. But I am also upgrading to a Vixen SD81s, because I want to experience Japanese glass and the Vixen is in my budget where a TAK or TV is not.

 

But for the money you can't beat the SW80. I paid less for mine (it was in the $600 range--a few years ago), but they often come up used in the $450 range. But i liked it so much I bought the 4", which I also enjoy very much.



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Posted 14 July 2019 - 06:49 AM

I have the SW80ED with Schott glass

 

 

Schott Glass it's just for a Crown front element.



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Posted 14 July 2019 - 02:13 PM

I don't know if it is the Evostar or pre-Evostar, I think I read they are the same, but Amazon and a couple of other vendors have the SW ProED 80mm for $659 vs the $825 they are going for now.  Or if you wanted a little bigger, Amazon has the SW ProED 100mm for $699.

Hmm,  nah, why would I need another scope?  smile.gif


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Posted 14 July 2019 - 02:39 PM

I don't know if it is the Evostar or pre-Evostar, I think I read they are the same, but Amazon and a couple of other vendors have the SW ProED 80mm for $659 vs the $825 they are going for now.  Or if you wanted a little bigger, Amazon has the SW ProED 100mm for $699.

Hmm,  nah, why would I need another scope?  smile.gif

That's the version I own. $659 is a fair price on this scope which is really a great value package.

 

I had it out last night on the moon. Had a Baader zoom on it, even screwed on a barlow lens, it holds up. Good contrast, good detail. Finishings pretty good, focuser functional and solid. Nice case. Works with my Williams binoviewers.

 

It is Chinese glass, but very good Chinese glass. If I were starting out, and wanted astronomy with a couple of clicks of the mouse, this scope and a Vixen Porta II would be it. 

 

I also have the SW100. These scopes are great value. Japanese glass? No. But a solid value, good scope.



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Posted 14 July 2019 - 03:39 PM

To be correct it is Japanese glass that is ground and polished in China not Chinese glass.

Mike


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Posted 15 July 2019 - 07:42 AM

There are a couple videos on youtube of the focusers not working right, that's my only worry. Are there any known issues I should be aware of before buying?

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=VKzwf2s8zL8

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=g1hQbGFx4jc



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Posted 15 July 2019 - 07:44 AM

I’ve been using the Evo 80ED and it’s a great little scope. Can’t say I’ve noticed any appreciable CA. I’ve had good luck with it on brighter open clusters and double stars. Lunar observation has been very good as well. I have zero problems with the focuser...

Edited by CelestronDaddy, 15 July 2019 - 07:46 AM.


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Posted 15 July 2019 - 09:03 AM

Would you say it's better than the SV Acces 80?

I had a Celestron 80ED which has the same optics as the Skywatcher, Orion and Vixen versions. Optically the SV Access 80 is very similar. Both show very little CA. I wouldn't put one above the other optically. The SV Access 80 has a very nice focuser and a sliding dew shield which is why I sold the C80ED to get it. Other than that I was very happy with the C80ED optics. I would think the Evo 80ED focuser is somewhere between the 2 but I haven't used one. 



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Posted 15 July 2019 - 09:26 AM

Just noticed there's a Stellarvue Access 80 for sale in the classifieds for $500. 



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Posted 15 July 2019 - 12:16 PM

I have a questions for those "similar" EDs. I noticed that the SW 80ED reducer is significantly more expensive than other brands.

 

For the sake of AP possibility, since SW has reducers for each different ED doublet (80, 100 and 120), are those reducers interchangeable or do I have to buy the one specifically for 80ED?

 

Then, between brands, can I use a different reducer from other brands for the SW 80ED? Thanks!



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Posted 16 July 2019 - 08:57 AM

Moderator Note:

 

The topic of this thread, the suitability of the SW 80 ED for general observing, is inherently broad enough to include whether it can be feasibly accessorized for versatile use for both general observing and astrophotography.  And so, it's topically appropriate to ask about the cost and versatility of available field flatteners for the SW 80 ED.

 

THAT SAID: let's not go too far down the AP rabbit hole in this thread.  Anyone wanting to inquire further than that about imaging techniques with the SW 80 ED or comparing its quality vs other refractors for imaging, etc. should start a new thread in either this forum or one of the imaging forums, focusing on those sorts of inquiries.


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#23 starryhtx

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Posted 16 July 2019 - 10:47 AM

Do you think the price disparity is worth it for the extras you get? It's up to $825.00 on High Point Scientific, and as low as $659.00 (OTA only) at B&H Photo. The one shown on the B&H site has a different focuser though.



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Posted Yesterday, 01:53 AM

Do you think the price disparity is worth it for the extras you get? It's up to $825.00 on High Point Scientific, and as low as $659.00 (OTA only) at B&H Photo. The one shown on the B&H site has a different focuser though.

Not sure if B&H has the rings and dovetail. Anyways I’ve owned two SW ED’s new. The accessories are actually ok. If you don’t have a 2” dielectric diagonal, they give you one. I only had this with my 100ED. The 5mm they come with is also ok, as well as the LET eyepiece. Not sure if it’s a 25mm or 20mm anymore which is ok. The 2” diagonal alone saves you a $80-100. If the OTA doesn’t have rings or a dovetail saves you another $60-80. Plus the 80ED hard case is the most economic one they have. Plus you get the finder. Don’t forget the finder. I’d go new at that point, if it were me. 

 

Then agIn patience and watching classifieds like a hawk could get you a like new with everything for way cheaper. But I’ll be honest, I sleep during the day. By the time I go to bed and wake up, if one is posted, it’s generally gone within a few hours of posting. 




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