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#1 Cpk133

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Posted 12 July 2019 - 09:50 PM

I've finally reached a point where I don't even care anymore:

 

Uncomfortable cold in winter.

Blood sucking mosquitos in summer

Endless supply of clouds

Jetstream 

 

Then there are rare nights like tonight when the temperature is comfortable, no work tomorrow it's clear, good seeing forecast and the failure to launch mid twenties neighbor kid still living with mommy and daddy next door decides to have a campfire in the driveway with one of those lawn fire pit things.  It's an automatic no go unless I want to smell like an ash tray and spend the next day cleaning ash off my scope.  Last night, similar conditions and wouldn't you know, some knuckle head down the street had a big fire in his shed, fire department and everything.  Guess who was down wind of all the black smoke.  Last Sunday night, good conditions for astronomy and for a massive fish fly hatch.  Swarms of bugs.  Tomorrow night will be cloudy and guarantee, there won't be anyone or anything going on in the hood.


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#2 JOEinCO

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Posted 12 July 2019 - 09:52 PM

Odds are it has to get better for you now!! waytogo.gif 


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Posted 12 July 2019 - 10:18 PM

The same problems in Portland, Oregon =( :-( ÷(


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#4 Dynan

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Posted 12 July 2019 - 10:36 PM

Could have Big Barry lookin' at you, down the barrel as I do...

 

One truth always prevails...This Too Shall Pass. Patience IS a virtue.


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#5 CeeKay

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Posted 12 July 2019 - 10:43 PM

The same problems in Portland, Oregon =( :-( ÷(

Yep....



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Posted 12 July 2019 - 11:02 PM

Move to the Southwest and most of your problems are gone.

 

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Posted 12 July 2019 - 11:04 PM

It was stuff like that drove us to move to remote rural back in 1982. Decent dark skies, lots of room, quiet, peaceful... and neighbors who think the same way. And it's still like that! Anyway... might be worth considering. The biggest step is realizing that our confines are almost always  defined by the fences that --- we build ourselves!  Tom

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 12:53 AM

That’s just some bad luck. Cause yeah we really needed a night like last night. Tonight wasn’t as good, but close enough. Better than it has been. Should’ve messaged me and came to the house. I was out til the clouds rolled in at around 4:30. I’m still out tonight.

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 09:22 AM

Yeah, it seems that there is always SOMETHING conspiring to wreck a good observing night... but then, when EVERYTHING aligns, and there is nothing to interfere, memories can be made...

 

Hang in there, odds favor a stellar night in your future...

 

CB


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Posted 13 July 2019 - 09:48 AM

Could have Big Barry lookin' at you, down the barrel as I do...

 

One truth always prevails...This Too Shall Pass. Patience IS a virtue.

Indeed, I am getting a big wet kiss from Barry right now...........undecided.gif I sympathize with the OP, it's either the bad weather, garbage seeing and people who feel they must light everything up brighter than a nuclear weapons storage site at night. If I had the means, I would have moved to an sparely populated, dark area long ago. 

 

Taras


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#11 jerobe

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 09:53 AM

Maybe you should become a writer.  The conditions and situations that you described is the basis for a good magazine article!


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Posted 13 July 2019 - 10:19 AM

Same problems here , bugs, smoke from forest fires,a house that backs on to me has a TV so large it will fry a Rabbit at 100 yrds with no blinds or curtains up, the old biddy insists on sitting outside and yacking on the phone so loud you can hear all her business, then theirs the 600 homes being built up the road under the guise of improvement for the area, pretty sad, D



#13 Cpk133

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 11:46 AM

That’s just some bad luck. Cause yeah we really needed a night like last night. Tonight wasn’t as good, but close enough. Better than it has been. Should’ve messaged me and came to the house. I was out til the clouds rolled in at around 4:30. I’m still out tonight.

Wanted to give a quick update.  Jond, you lit a fire under my butt last night with your comments about how good the seeing was.  The neighbor shut down earlier than usual (around 1130).  I figured the odds were pretty good so I took a chance and drug everything outside.  The temp had cooled pretty close to inside a/c temp so I figured it was worth the effort.  One look with a 9mm ortho and I knew I made a good choice.  In went the binoviewer and there were indeed some moments of excellent seeing.  I managed to swing over to Saturn for some really steady moments (it was positioned in my sweet spot with no nearby houses or heat sinks).  I got in a good hour before things started to degrade enough to throw in the towel.  Fingers crossed for Sunday night.


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#14 Cpk133

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 11:55 AM

Maybe you should become a writer.  The conditions and situations that you described is the basis for a good magazine article!

It would have to be something other than astronomy or everyone would leave the hobby lol.



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Posted 13 July 2019 - 01:05 PM

I shouldn't even thing about observing until Oct.1st. The summer sucks in the south every year. I haven't even seen Jupiter yet and it's one of my favorite objects with it's moons channging every night. Eeven now it's still pretty big with Saturn not to far from it! And then there is all of those great DSO's out with M13 very high up in the sky!

 

Just looked at the 10 day forecast and it's 95* and cloudy each night frown.gif


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#16 Cpk133

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 07:23 PM

I shouldn't even thing about observing until Oct.1st. The summer sucks in the south every year. I haven't even seen Jupiter yet and it's one of my favorite objects with it's moons channging every night. Eeven now it's still pretty big with Saturn not to far from it! And then there is all of those great DSO's out with M13 very high up in the sky!

 

Just looked at the 10 day forecast and it's 95* and cloudy each night frown.gif

This hobby really does take serious patience when you live east of the Mississippi.  But we really appreciate and remember the days when it's good.  I can vividly remember setting up in my front yard a few years ago, clear, good seeing and Jupiter in a twilight sky.  Blue festoon bases, so many belts and subtle colors it was like a dream.


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#17 Cpk133

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 08:34 PM

OMG he's at it again.  I can't even go out with a grab n go.  Twp ordinance allows for these portable fire pits within 15 feet of property line.  I'm going to have to create a ballot initiative.



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Posted 13 July 2019 - 08:43 PM

CPK:

 

The cloud cover, and light pollution drove in SE Mich drove me batty growing up. Winters are long, harsh and often wet. Moving to OK totally changed my perspective on the merits of amateur astronomy. However, I’m vacationing with family in NW Mich above Traverse City and the sky here is clear, the temp is perfect and humidity is low. Light pollution is much less of an issue—although the moon is an impediment to DSO viewing for a few more days. Can’t do anything about your nutty neighbors as they exist in many places and I know you can’t drive 4 hours at the drop of a hat, but sometimes even driving 15 minutes can get you away from the stupid and/or inconsiderate.

 

 

Chesterguy

 

ps. It’s easily 20+ degrees cooler here than it was when I last viewed in OK so there are perks to being in MI


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Posted 13 July 2019 - 10:30 PM

I shouldn't even thing about observing until Oct.1st. The summer sucks in the south every year. I haven't even seen Jupiter yet and it's one of my favorite objects with it's moons channging every night. Eeven now it's still pretty big with Saturn not to far from it! And then there is all of those great DSO's out with M13 very high up in the sky!

 

Just looked at the 10 day forecast and it's 95* and cloudy each night frown.gif

Really?  That sucks, because I'm in NC and have been out almost every night for the past couple of weeks.  Yes the hurricane is pushing a lot of clouds our way but you can usually get in a short session until about 11pm then the clouds show up.  Seeing isn't perfect but if we wait for perfect nights, we'll never go out.


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#20 John Fitzgerald

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 10:45 PM

I was able to get in a short session tonight, with mosquito face netting and long sleeves.  Saw Jupiter, Saturn, and a few double stars before the cloud bands started rolling in from the southeast.  Probably be cloudy for next three nights.  Full moon coming anyway.   No dew until dark tonight.  We have been getting dew 30 minutes before sundown lately, on clearer evenings.


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Posted 14 July 2019 - 09:26 AM

Really?  That sucks, because I'm in NC and have been out almost every night for the past couple of weeks.  Yes the hurricane is pushing a lot of clouds our way but you can usually get in a short session until about 11pm then the clouds show up.  Seeing isn't perfect but if we wait for perfect nights, we'll never go out.

Wow, good for you! I'm in Gastonia, where are you that you have had good night? A friend of mine in over the mountains in TN and he has been have some great nights lately.


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#22 Cpk133

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Posted 14 July 2019 - 11:09 AM

Another update- rigged up a 70mm achromat to my AVX for some gorilla observing.  Again, they shut down the fire around 1030.  I was really shocked at what I was able to observe.  I'll be starting a thread in the frac forum, cheap frac fun to discuss some of my observations.


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Posted 14 July 2019 - 11:09 AM

Friday night and last night were really great (until about 12:30 EDT this morning).  I primarily am a solar system and double star observer.  The seeing was very good Friday (4/5) and great last night (5/5).  The wealth I've recorded on Jupiter the last two nights have been exciting.

 

Clear skies,

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Posted 14 July 2019 - 09:27 PM

Find another hobby or move. Since moving is probably out of the question for you...



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Posted 14 July 2019 - 09:51 PM

I’m at work, but can tell it’s gorgeous out right now.
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