Jump to content

  •  

CNers have asked about a donation box for Cloudy Nights over the years, so here you go. Donation is not required by any means, so please enjoy your stay.

Photo

Anyone used this eyepiece?

  • Please log in to reply
20 replies to this topic

#1 Thomas Marshall

Thomas Marshall

    Viking 1

  • *****
  • topic starter
  • Posts: 506
  • Joined: 24 Feb 2015
  • Loc: Spring Valley AZ.

Posted 22 July 2019 - 04:03 PM

http://Ebay.com/itm/...pe/202667407967 Has anyone tried one of these out? I'm looking to compliment my Baader MKIV Zoom with a low power wide field eyepiece, and wondering if these are any good, @less than $50.00.



#2 nicoledoula

nicoledoula

    Apollo

  • *****
  • Posts: 1180
  • Joined: 31 Jan 2018

Posted 22 July 2019 - 05:01 PM

I think you'd be better off with a 32mm plossl.


  • izar187 and ShaulaB like this

#3 ShaulaB

ShaulaB

    Surveyor 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 1590
  • Joined: 11 Oct 2012
  • Loc: Missouri

Posted 22 July 2019 - 05:16 PM

70 degrees of apparent field of view is not "super wide" anymore. There is no brand mentioned for this ep. Do yourself a favor, pass on this one. Since you have the delightful Baader zoom, you would really not enjoy looking through a POS eyepiece. Like the previous poster says, get a Plossl. Less than $60.



#4 M11Mike

M11Mike

    Viking 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 895
  • Joined: 02 Apr 2016
  • Loc: Ballston Lake, NY

Posted 22 July 2019 - 05:41 PM

Agree with the others.  And I'd bet bet this EP "doesn't" have a 70 degree field at 27mm FL in a 1.25" format.  Most you can get out of 27mm 1.25" EP is maybe 60 degrees....if that.  

 

Want a good EP around this FL - get a T/V 24mm Panoptic --- a TRUE 68 degrees.   A excellent EP that has a proven track record of being good...and the widest possible true FOV in a 1.25" format EP.    

 

M11Mike 


  • JIMZ7, Neptune and Thomas Marshall like this

#5 Miranda2525

Miranda2525

    Surveyor 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 1920
  • Joined: 12 Jul 2016

Posted 22 July 2019 - 06:59 PM

http://Ebay.com/itm/...pe/202667407967 Has anyone tried one of these out? I'm looking to compliment my Baader MKIV Zoom with a low power wide field eyepiece, and wondering if these are any good, @less than $50.00.

That eyepiece isn't 70 degrees. It's a copy of the 27mm / 53 degree Orion Edge on / BST flat field, etc. 

 

https://www.telescop...iece/p/8641.uts

 

https://www.cloudyni...lat-field-27mm/



#6 Peter Besenbruch

Peter Besenbruch

    Fly Me to the Moon

  • *****
  • Posts: 7056
  • Joined: 21 Aug 2014
  • Loc: Oahu

Posted 22 July 2019 - 07:20 PM

http://Ebay.com/itm/...pe/202667407967 Has anyone tried one of these out? I'm looking to compliment my Baader MKIV Zoom with a low power wide field eyepiece, and wondering if these are any good, @less than $50.00.

First, they lie like a rug. There is no way for this to be a 70° eyepiece. Second, the specs and the appearance look like the Barsta Flat Field 27mm. Its apparent field of view is 53°. It sells for $70.


  • JIMZ7 likes this

#7 CrazyPanda

CrazyPanda

    Surveyor 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 1942
  • Joined: 30 Sep 2012

Posted 22 July 2019 - 07:56 PM

First, they lie like a rug. There is no way for this to be a 70° eyepiece. Second, the specs and the appearance look like the Barsta Flat Field 27mm. Its apparent field of view is 53°. It sells for $70.

Yep, there's no way for a 27mm eyepiece to have a 70 degree AFOV in a 1.25" barrel format (at least, not without significant edge distortion).



#8 SteveG

SteveG

    Cosmos

  • *****
  • Posts: 7904
  • Joined: 27 Sep 2006
  • Loc: Seattle, WA

Posted 22 July 2019 - 08:00 PM

Agreed that this looks like the 27 mm 53* afov, also sold by Orion:

 

https://bit.ly/30TPjTl



#9 Thomas Marshall

Thomas Marshall

    Viking 1

  • *****
  • topic starter
  • Posts: 506
  • Joined: 24 Feb 2015
  • Loc: Spring Valley AZ.

Posted 22 July 2019 - 08:04 PM

Wow! Unanimous that it would be a poor choice. I worried it might not be a full 70 degrees, but I already have a TVue 32 Plossl that is very good, but thought this might give a little bit wider view, - but I guess not. Well, - the negative answers seal the deal for me, - I will Not get it. Perhaps I will get the 24mm Panoptic in the future since one post stated it provides the Max TFOV in a 1 1/4" format. No sense trying to go beyond Maximum.  Thanks to all of you for your answers/input.



#10 CrazyPanda

CrazyPanda

    Surveyor 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 1942
  • Joined: 30 Sep 2012

Posted 22 July 2019 - 08:04 PM

Agreed that this looks like the 27 mm 53* afov, also sold by Orion:

 

https://bit.ly/30TPjTl

It amazes me how Orion can market that as a "widefield" when it's AFOV is barely wider than a Plossl.


  • Thomas Marshall likes this

#11 CrazyPanda

CrazyPanda

    Surveyor 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 1942
  • Joined: 30 Sep 2012

Posted 22 July 2019 - 08:06 PM

Wow! Unanimous that it would be a poor choice. I worried it might not be a full 70 degrees, but I already have a TVue 32 Plossl that is very good, but thought this might give a little bit wider view, - but I guess not. Well, - the negative answers seal the deal for me, - I will Not get it. Perhaps I will get the 24mm Panoptic in the future since one post stated it provides the Max TFOV in a 1 1/4" format. No sense trying to go beyond Maximum.  Thanks to all of you for your answers/input.

Just so you're aware, the 32mm TV Plossl and 24mm Panoptic will show about the same TFOV.

 

The difference is the 24mm Panoptic will give you a wider AFOV and more magnification, generally giving it a significantly more immersive feel than the 32mm Plossl.


Edited by CrazyPanda, 22 July 2019 - 08:07 PM.

  • Sarkikos and Thomas Marshall like this

#12 Thomas Marshall

Thomas Marshall

    Viking 1

  • *****
  • topic starter
  • Posts: 506
  • Joined: 24 Feb 2015
  • Loc: Spring Valley AZ.

Posted 22 July 2019 - 08:50 PM

Just so you're aware, the 32mm TV Plossl and 24mm Panoptic will show about the same TFOV.

 

The difference is the 24mm Panoptic will give you a wider AFOV and more magnification, generally giving it a significantly more immersive feel than the 32mm Plossl.

I guess I'll just be happy with the T/V32mm then, and save $ for something else down the line. I have 4mm and 15mm 82 degree 'Stellarview" eyepieces, that are very nice also. If I can only get 90% of the Pleiades in the fov, thru my At102ED with T/V32 Plossl I can always double down with binoculars for the wider view.



#13 M11Mike

M11Mike

    Viking 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 895
  • Joined: 02 Apr 2016
  • Loc: Ballston Lake, NY

Posted 22 July 2019 - 08:53 PM

And a darker sky background which makes many DSO's stand out better than the 32PL.

 

M11Mike


  • Thomas Marshall likes this

#14 HellsKitchen

HellsKitchen

    Surveyor 1

  • -----
  • Posts: 1939
  • Joined: 05 Sep 2008
  • Loc: Renmark, Australia

Posted 23 July 2019 - 03:49 AM

No name from ebay. I would avoid. Grab a GSO plossl or anyone of its clones instead from a reputable dealer if you're on a budget. 

 

With regards to widefield, 50 bucks is only going to get you a paperweight. 



#15 csrlice12

csrlice12

    ISS

  • *****
  • Posts: 25015
  • Joined: 22 May 2012
  • Loc: Denver, CO

Posted 23 July 2019 - 10:50 AM

But its a pretty black and yellow paperweight....call it Bumblebee....


  • Neptune, Sarkikos and bbqediguana like this

#16 Starman1

Starman1

    Vendor (EyepiecesEtc.com)

  • *****
  • Vendors
  • Posts: 43255
  • Joined: 23 Jun 2003
  • Loc: Los Angeles

Posted 23 July 2019 - 04:05 PM

http://Ebay.com/itm/...pe/202667407967 Has anyone tried one of these out? I'm looking to compliment my Baader MKIV Zoom with a low power wide field eyepiece, and wondering if these are any good, @less than $50.00.

It is readily available under many different labels.

It is NOT a 70° eyepiece, but 53° with a 24.4mm field stop.

You can buy 1.25" eyepieces with a 24mm focal length that have a 68° field and a 27mm field stop.

This eyepiece, in the other brands it's available under, has poor reviews:

Astromania Premium Flatfield
BST (Barsta) Flat Field
Omegon Flatfield
Orion EF
Skywatcher ExtraFlat Wide Angle
Telescope Service Edge-On Flat Field
Lunt "Solar Eyepieces", Flat field
365 Astronomy Andromeda Extra Flat

 

To complement the Baader Zoom:

32mm Plössl in 1.25" (new)--27mm field stop

or

35mm Orion Ultrascopic/Parks Gold Series/Antares Plössl/Omcon Ultima/Tuthill Plössl (used)--29mm field stop


Edited by Starman1, 23 July 2019 - 04:08 PM.

  • JIMZ7 and Thomas Marshall like this

#17 Thomas Marshall

Thomas Marshall

    Viking 1

  • *****
  • topic starter
  • Posts: 506
  • Joined: 24 Feb 2015
  • Loc: Spring Valley AZ.

Posted 23 July 2019 - 05:07 PM

But its a pretty black and yellow paperweight....call it Bumblebee....

Yeah, - it Looks great, and truly Seemed Just what I needed to squeeze out that little bit extra fov. It pays to ask around on the Forums for advice on things I'm not sure about. 



#18 Thomas Marshall

Thomas Marshall

    Viking 1

  • *****
  • topic starter
  • Posts: 506
  • Joined: 24 Feb 2015
  • Loc: Spring Valley AZ.

Posted 24 July 2019 - 07:39 PM

It is readily available under many different labels.

It is NOT a 70° eyepiece, but 53° with a 24.4mm field stop.

You can buy 1.25" eyepieces with a 24mm focal length that have a 68° field and a 27mm field stop.

This eyepiece, in the other brands it's available under, has poor reviews:

Astromania Premium Flatfield
BST (Barsta) Flat Field
Omegon Flatfield
Orion EF
Skywatcher ExtraFlat Wide Angle
Telescope Service Edge-On Flat Field
Lunt "Solar Eyepieces", Flat field
365 Astronomy Andromeda Extra Flat

 

To complement the Baader Zoom:

32mm Plössl in 1.25" (new)--27mm field stop

or

35mm Orion Ultrascopic/Parks Gold Series/Antares Plössl/Omcon Ultima/Tuthill Plössl (used)--29mm field stop

Thanks for the very detailed rundown. When I saw the "35mm Orion Ultrascopic" I went window shopping on ebay because I have an Orion 15mm Ultrascopic from the 90's that I've always liked. So much so, a while back I searched out an extra to use with binoviewers but got convinced an 'Omcon' Japan was the same, so bought it. They seem basically the same, but not quite parfocal. So searching the 35mm, I come across "Parfocal Rings" 4 for $20.00, - perfect for my budget right now, and now I can get those 2  to match, and 3 other individual eyepieces to set all at the same focal point. "You can't always get what you want-------but if you try sometimes-----you get what you need". "Rolling Stones". 



#19 Neptune

Neptune

    Apollo

  • *****
  • Posts: 1202
  • Joined: 16 Apr 2007
  • Loc: Georgia

Posted 25 July 2019 - 09:03 AM

What about in a f10 SCT.  I see they have the following focal lengths... 8mm, 12mm, 16mm, 19mm & 27mm.  I thought they look especially nice, if your into that sort of thing. Unfortunately, I am. You know, function follows form and all that. I have gobs of high end TeleVue eyepieces, and deep down I know TV are some of the best eyepieces money can buy, but there is always that 'underdog' that you hope to find that is way cheaper than the top brands but perform admirably.



#20 Don Taylor

Don Taylor

    Apollo

  • *****
  • Posts: 1124
  • Joined: 12 Jul 2009
  • Loc: Broken Arrow (Tulsa Area) Oklahoma

Posted 25 July 2019 - 04:35 PM

I have the BST versions and like them in longer F/R scopes like Maks and F11+ refractors. Generally very comfortable. Favorite is the 19mm. The 8mm has fairly short ER that seems shorter than the spec. I don't use the 16mm very often as its too close to the 19.

I also have Naglers, ES68 and 82, radians etc but i do often enjoy the BSTs in the longer focal ratio scopes.

#21 brebisson

brebisson

    Ranger 4

  • -----
  • Posts: 341
  • Joined: 22 Aug 2016

Posted 12 September 2019 - 08:10 AM

Hello,

 

I have the 19mm and I have tested it against a 20mm 70°, and I do beleive that it is indeed a 70° FOV...

 

Honestly, at 36€, I found it very good...

 

Of course, it depends on your budget and if you have hundreds to put in an EP, don't buy one of these, but if you are on a budget, the 19mm at least is a good deal in my opinion...

 

Cyrille




CNers have asked about a donation box for Cloudy Nights over the years, so here you go. Donation is not required by any means, so please enjoy your stay.


Recent Topics






Cloudy Nights LLC
Cloudy Nights Sponsor: Astronomics