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#1 25585

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 03:36 AM

If either or both the Pentax XW 30mm or 40mm was re-introduced, would you buy one or both?

I would the 40mm definitely, 30mm maybe.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 03:48 AM

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#3 25585

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 04:07 AM

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 04:19 AM

Already have the 40.If the 30 will be back, i will bite (of course).



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Posted 29 July 2019 - 04:26 AM

Nope, already gotem' n it's notta gonna happen.



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Posted 29 July 2019 - 04:34 AM

Probably the 30mm.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 04:47 AM

I love the 30mm APM UFF. Maybe the 40mm if I decided I wanted the extra field.

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 06:02 AM

I really like the idea of the Pentax line up, but I found with the few I tried I simply could not get all the stars to focus at the same time when I viewed through the 20mm and the 10mm was nothing special. I think I will stick with my 31mm Terminagler, Ethos and Delites.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 07:26 AM

The 20mm is reported to have mild field curvature. Which would explain what you saw. The other eyepieces in the series other than the 14 are something special, but maybe not compared to Ethos, Delite and a terminagler.

The 40XW is reportedly the best 40mm superwide available in its day. Unfortunately it was also the most expensive. I opted for a deal on a 42 LVW instead, also discontinued possibly but seemingly still available. I wouldn’t buy the 40XW at the old $500 price tag. Granted some of us consider that a cheap eyepiece, but too rich for my blood.

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 07:39 AM

People seem to like the Pentax 30 mm XW and 40 mm XW though they're generally not people with scopes like mine. I have those focal lengths covered.

 

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 07:40 AM

Well, I sold my 40mm a few years ago and have no regrets.  It's a fine eyepiece, but there are other fine eyepieces at these focal lengths.  I would only consider buying it again if it was priced under $300, and only if I changed my eyepiece line up altogether.  I liked the ergonomics but the field of view was a bit constricted.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 09:08 AM


I don't presently own any Pentax XW's but I've always been very fond of them in general. Not sure I'd buy the Pentax XW 30mm or 40mm if they were reintroduced, as I've very happy with what I already have at that end (31mm Nagler and 35mm Pan) but I'd sure like to view through them someday.

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 09:16 AM

I own the 40 XW and it is a beautiful eye piece. I would buy the 30 XW if it came back into production. The 30/40 XWs are one of a few eye pieces that cost more used now then when they were new (XOs, ZAOs, TMB SMCs, etc to name a few). 

 

Purchasing a mint 30/40 XW would cost around $700 now. 



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Posted 29 July 2019 - 10:49 AM

No, because the XW Buddah already blessed me with a complete set.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 11:09 AM

I bought my Pentax XW 30 and XW40 new in 2008 for $499.95 each.  Yes, they were expensive, but they provided great views through a variety of scopes.

 

I sold them a few years ago for the going rate - Then I finally gave up on Televue introducing a 2-inch Delos line to augment/replace the Panoptics, so I was able to re-purchase my old faithful XWs for the same cost.  My net investment is still $500 each and I think they are worth it, especially when I look at what's out there right now. 

 

It's a shame Pentax dropped them and I am happy to hear that Ricoh is bringing them back.

 

Cheers,

 

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 12:11 PM

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 05:00 PM

Had both, sold both.

IME the 31T5 trumps both but that's just me.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 06:15 PM

Had both, sold both.

IME the 31T5 trumps both but that's just me.

Definitely agree with respect to the TV 31mm Nagler Type V over the Pentax 30mm (Sold)

The new APM 30mm UFF (70° AFAV) is an excellent less expensive option than the TV 31mm Nagler and Pentax 30mm.

I preferred my TMB 40mm Paragon to the Pentax 40mm XW and XL (both sold) in my SCT/apo refractors. The ES/Meade 

Series 5000 40mm SWA are also very good at their $ point.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 06:35 PM

I'd probably get the 40 for my SCT, but it's not the next thing on my wish list. If I didn't already have the 31T5 and 30/82°, the 30 XW would be a lot more appealing. I think I'll hold out for the new ES 92° focal lengths.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 06:43 PM

Both ARE coming back, and they will be less expensive than the $579 they were before.

I do not have a time frame, so don't ask.

But, "it is in progress" per Ricoh.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 06:54 PM

Both ARE coming back, and they will be less expensive than the $579 they were before.

I do not have a time frame, so don't ask.

But, "it is in progress" per Ricoh.

That is consistent with the XW's being reduced from $359 to $299 and the XF's reduced from $179 to $129.  If there is a similar reduction then the 30mm and 40mm XW's would be somewhere between $425 and $485.  Probably max cost then would be $499.   If they want to sell them then they probably need to be under ~$489.



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Posted 29 July 2019 - 07:01 PM

I've used a Pentax XW 30mm and was able to compare it at some length with a William Optics 28mm 82 and a Nagler 31. I thought the Pentax a nice eyepiece at the time but was not completely bowled over by it so I doubt that I'd spend several £hundred on one. The additional eye relief is not that important to me.

 

As for the 40mm, it's a focal length that I don't use very much so I'd need to be convinced that spending considerably more than my Aero ED 40mm (which is the best of that series IMHO) cost would bring me gains in the scopes that I do use 40mm eyepieces in, which are F/6.5 or slower.

 

I'm very happy with the XW's in 1.25" format which I have in focal lengths of 10, 7, 5 and 3.5mm.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 07:06 PM

I may give them a try (I have the 1.25" set).  But I am simply in love with my 35 Pan so it would likely cause me EP related stress!  I'm sure I could talk myelf into "needing" all three tho... :)

 

I'd be happy to part with my 42mm LVW for a 40mm XW, not enough eye relief for my glasses with the LVW.



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Posted 29 July 2019 - 07:54 PM

Both ARE coming back, and they will be less expensive than the $579 they were before.

I do not have a time frame, so don't ask.

But, "it is in progress" per Ricoh.

Not that I care as I said earlier (I prefer the 31T5 to either) however I will believe this when I see it....along with the Baader Maxbrite II, more ES 92's, Etc.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 08:06 PM

Another insider pointed out this same thing in a thread 10 months ago. . .

 

I have the 30 and 40 XWs. They are both very comfortable to use, and I prefer the 40 over the 30. It's optically better across the field to my eye.

 

Despite the 30 having issues--the edges are a bit astigmatic, there's a touch of field curvature, and there's lateral color, it is very nice to use.

 

The APM is optically better to my eye, but I still prefer the XW. I suspect a part of it is the crisp field stop.




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