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#1 CharlieB

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 06:36 PM

Time for a new one.

 

A true classic in every sense.

 

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#2 Russell Smith

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 06:37 PM

I win.


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#3 CharlieB

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 06:40 PM

You have classic telescopes - of course you win!


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Posted 31 July 2019 - 07:36 PM

Finished up with 805 last month.

 

Hasn't been that active since Feb of 2018 (830), and the one before that was 941. However, the latter was 7 weeks, and the former was 5 weeks. 

 

Hopefully a bunch of people found new scopes that they're now enjoying as a result of all that activity. 

 

Chip W. 


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Posted 31 July 2019 - 07:51 PM

Anybody who has a classic scope is a winner
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Posted 31 July 2019 - 08:51 PM

Anyone have any info on 12.5cm GOTO Newtonians like, quality, value, how they compare to Taks, etc?

 

This in particular;

 

https://www.ebay.com...5.c100005.m1851

 

I posted it in the previous thread but it's still for sale and I don't know why. It really want's me to click that "blue button" on the debt machine!


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Posted 31 July 2019 - 09:44 PM

Anyone have any info on 12.5cm GOTO Newtonians like, quality, value, how they compare to Taks, etc?

 

This in particular;

 

https://www.ebay.com...5.c100005.m1851

 

I posted it in the previous thread but it's still for sale and I don't know why. It really want's me to click that "blue button" on the debt machine!

you would be better off with a Tak newtonian when they show up for sale.


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Posted 31 July 2019 - 10:02 PM

I am really shocked this hasn't sold. Seller encourages the make offer option too.

 

SWIFT 1961 MODEL 831 REFRACTING TELESCOPE IN ORIGINAL WOOD CASE:

 

https://www.ebay.com...skAAOSwudBdORBh

 

If I didn't already have one, I would be all over this. They don't come around very often and are so very good.


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 01:06 AM

It would $100 for me  to ship...



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Posted 01 August 2019 - 06:07 AM

Dynacope RV-6 -- $150

https://boston.craig...6946450735.html


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 06:12 AM

I am really shocked this hasn't sold. Seller encourages the make offer option too.

 

SWIFT 1961 MODEL 831 REFRACTING TELESCOPE IN ORIGINAL WOOD CASE:

 

https://www.ebay.com...skAAOSwudBdORBh

 

If I didn't already have one, I would be all over this. They don't come around very often and are so very good

From the education you gals and guys have silently imparted to me, I've seen how greatly esteemed these are.  What is the ball park for these?  I've seen some people writing that prices for vintage scopes are down from what they were.  However it seems true in other markets that the top quality stuff holds its prices best.


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 06:43 AM

https://www.cloudyni...-refractor-kit/

 

Nice 6" F10 Jaegers refractor kit complete with AP focuser and a nice eyepiece.  Only $600  


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 08:35 AM

I am really shocked this hasn't sold. Seller encourages the make offer option too.

 

SWIFT 1961 MODEL 831 REFRACTING TELESCOPE IN ORIGINAL WOOD CASE:

 

https://www.ebay.com...skAAOSwudBdORBh

 

If I didn't already have one, I would be all over this. They don't come around very often and are so very good.

$100 shipping, opening $300, but reserve not met til maybe $400 - bet offers $375 or less no good for a while. It's nice, it's uncommon, it's complete, looks a little road weary. Didn't film well when set up, and a swipe with a scuff pen would've helped the legs. Almost has 'grab', but not quite at what's gonna be maybe $~500+. There's an Orion 102 f/7 ED for $450 or that 6" Jaeger f/10 kit that put it in perspective for me. I look at the 831 and think more of an 80 f/15, or Vix Custom/A 80~90M or waiting for the price to drop if a collector doesn't eventually acquire. Right now that's a good chunk of the cost of a nice 6" f/15 lens and cell, even though it's very likable.


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#14 Chuck Hards

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 08:36 AM

From the education you gals and guys have silently imparted to me, I've seen how greatly esteemed these are.  What is the ball park for these?  I've seen some people writing that prices for vintage scopes are down from what they were.  However it seems true in other markets that the top quality stuff holds its prices best.

 

I've owned four of these, prices go from $100 for a beat, rashed example with missing parts up to $500.  But it all depends on the demand.  Lots have appeared in recent years and the market may be reaching saturation, thus this example not getting snapped-up instantly.  

 

Optically the scope is without an achromatic peer.  Mechanically, the mount does have a few issues.  


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 09:23 AM

I am really shocked this hasn't sold. Seller encourages the make offer option too.

 

SWIFT 1961 MODEL 831 REFRACTING TELESCOPE IN ORIGINAL WOOD CASE:

 

https://www.ebay.com...skAAOSwudBdORBh

 

If I didn't already have one, I would be all over this. They don't come around very often and are so very good.

I think AstroKerr is right about it being a somewhat discouraging auction setup. $300 opening bid, with a reserve, implying that the seller is looking for quite bit more.

 

I was watching it and thought about bidding, but then just decided to see how much it would go for. I'm not in need of more scopes for this year's class, and although a 75 to 90mm would help balance the loaner set for the larger class in 2020, I'm not going to pay more than $300 for a scope I haven't seen, from someone I don't know, when it needs to be something I can make usable for a student without investing dozens of hours of labor. 

 

After it failed to get a bid, I did send a message to the seller, since I'm close enough pick it up, asking if they would just sell it to me. But I didn't get a response, and they re-listed it about an hour later. That indicates to me that they are hoping to get a bidding war going that brings a premium price. 

 

Chip W. 


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 11:16 AM

 I like the Swift 831  as well      ever since I saw one in person at Neaf  

but I'm good right now    I misunderstood  the reserve thing until you folks enlightened me

 

I thought  make offer meant you could offer less than the ask or open bid price


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#17 Chuck Hards

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 11:56 AM

You can but the seller may have it set up to automatically reject offers below a certain amount.  Like this one. 


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 12:00 PM

IMO, if your going to start an auction with a high opening bid why not make it your reserve or BIN price? I suppose the auction thing is a psychological game.

 

On the subject of Swift pricing, I once saw a 838 (50mm), that got bid to $435. Then a year later, a nicer one went for $150 with only one bid.


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 01:53 PM

Brass Meade.  

 

https://losangeles.c...6945278580.html


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 02:36 PM

Anyone have any info on 12.5cm GOTO Newtonians like, quality, value, how they compare to Taks, etc?

 

This in particular;

 

https://www.ebay.com...5.c100005.m1851

 

I posted it in the previous thread but it's still for sale and I don't know why. It really want's me to click that "blue button" on the debt machine!

I've drooled over it several times, and my unspent tax refund is burning holes in my pockets, but that sweet scope is still WAY over-priced.  Knowing Goto, it's probably an excellent Newt, so it's still tempting -- but I haven't clicked the button.  It's come down some, so maybe the Seller will get it closer to reality.


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 10:26 PM

I've drooled over it several times, and my unspent tax refund is burning holes in my pockets, but that sweet scope is still WAY over-priced.  Knowing Goto, it's probably an excellent Newt, so it's still tempting -- but I haven't clicked the button.  It's come down some, so maybe the Seller will get it closer to reality.

It's a beaut - they really got 'smooth, sophisticated' looks down - "This is the way you do it".



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Posted 02 August 2019 - 06:50 AM

I am really shocked this hasn't sold. Seller encourages the make offer option too.

 

SWIFT 1961 MODEL 831 REFRACTING TELESCOPE IN ORIGINAL WOOD CASE:

 

https://www.ebay.com...skAAOSwudBdORBh

 

If I didn't already have one, I would be all over this. They don't come around very often and are so very good.

Looks like it has a bid now....$300 in that condition and the reserve hasn't been met plus $61 for shipping? That's one bid I would retract. Maybe if it was in mint condition...



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Posted 02 August 2019 - 06:55 AM

Anyone have any info on 12.5cm GOTO Newtonians like, quality, value, how they compare to Taks, etc?

 

This in particular;

 

https://www.ebay.com...5.c100005.m1851

 

I posted it in the previous thread but it's still for sale and I don't know why. It really want's me to click that "blue button" on the debt machine!

I think you can get a lot more classic scope for that price...


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Posted 02 August 2019 - 12:30 PM

I think you can get a lot more classic scope for that price...

You are probably right, but...

 

How often do these come up for sale? This is the first one I have ever seen advertised.  

 

If you want one, this may be your only chance for a long time to come.


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Posted 02 August 2019 - 01:59 PM

We've joked about what Unitron Collectors will pay for the infamous Tray Light (a flashlight).  If a Goto Collector pays more than non-collectors for this rare 125mm Newtonian... well, we can joke about it -- but it's no crazier than other buys.


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