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#1 LDW47

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 09:51 AM

Unexpectedly last nite I took our new ShiTzu puppy outside while it is learning to do its thing, the clock said slightly past 4 am and I was almost sleep walking ! So out to the back yard here in our northern city of 50,000 souls I went and things were going well until I glanced heavenward, that was my mistake. The sky was bright and awash with the just past full moon but it was strikingly clear and still and serene, in the city or not. In my one fairly tight corner of the sky, a tight corner of the universe if you will looking down in all their glory as if in a group was Andromeda and Orion and Auriga and Hercules waiting. Back to bed I was going until I passed my scope room so back to bed went the pup and I grabbed my 1959 Tasco 304 60mm f15 with its newly installed 1.25” purposed diagonal for 0.965 scopes along with 40mm and 32mm Omni eps and a Celestron UHC filter, then back out into the 10°C back yard where I mounted it on an AZ4 and pulled up a lawn chair. First came M31 washed out but quite clear considering the conditions, then came M42 it still looked great and quite well defined considering but no trapezium with the 32mm ep  / uhc filter and then a little side trip to the Rosette Nebula, as I thought just the stars but no cloud, no haze so on to Auriga and M38, M36 and M37 all very defined but dim thanks to good old you know who, lol ! As I am sitting there on my chair looking almost straight up at Auriga, over my right / left shoulders I caught a glimpse of Hercules and its famous M13 so I just had to do it and did with the same great but dim results. After scanning through all of these several times because with those sky conditions, moon or no moon, who wouldn’t ? My alarm finally went off about 6am or shortly after calling me back to bed and I may have detected a hint of sunrise also, lol ! It was a wonderful couple of hours, late in the nite, that I hadn’t done for a long time and through that newly acquired Tasco 304, in January, the surrounding stars, each and every one of them were absolutely tiny points of light. I wouldn’t go so far and say as my old grandmother would have ‘ they don’t make them like that any more ‘ but I am going to say it anyways, lol !   PS: That particular time and place and conditions and feeling may never be replicated again, at least not for me, it was one he** of a great experience !


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Posted 17 September 2019 - 10:54 AM

That is awesome! What a great impromtu session you had.

 

I used to live in your fair city many moons ago (over 40 years ago) and it was there that I got my first telescope. smile.gif

 

Cheers!

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 10:59 AM

That is awesome! What a great impromtu session you had.

 

I used to live in your fair city many moons ago (over 40 years ago) and it was there that I got my first telescope. smile.gif

 

Cheers!

Rick

Supposed to be the same tonite ?, this time I will get out the 127mm refrac. but it won’t be quite the same !


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Posted 18 September 2019 - 02:05 AM

This is a clear example of how astronomy should be enjoyed without the need for large equipment.


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Posted 18 September 2019 - 07:25 AM

This is a clear example of how astronomy should be enjoyed without the need for large equipment.

You are right, what more could you ask for ? Some are always looking up for perfection but it never comes but the other nite it did, for me !



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Posted 18 September 2019 - 05:18 PM

Great unexpected "moment" you had. Those seem to be the best. Thanks for sharing your story.


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Posted 18 September 2019 - 06:34 PM

In California, I can't really think of Hercules and Orion being "in a group"  since they are really quite far apart in the sky . Apparently in Canada they can both be seen well at the same time...A unique observation.  Darned spherical Earth!  


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Posted 18 September 2019 - 07:10 PM

In California, I can't really think of Hercules and Orion being "in a group"  since they are really quite far apart in the sky . Apparently in Canada they can both be seen well at the same time...A unique observation.  Darned spherical Earth!  

In my neck of the woods Hercules is pretty close to the zenith point and Orion is high in the sky in the SE, thats what I call a loose group if there was one and then Auriga is close to zenith but towards the E-NE and Andromeda a bit beyond that in that direction ! Your idea of a group may be a lot tighter than mine but thats OK, they were all there with out moving the scope much ie all high in the sky ! And that all came together shortly after 4 in the morning !


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Posted 18 September 2019 - 07:43 PM

Orion is found around 5-6 hrs RA on the Equator.  Hercules is found around 17 hours R.A. 20- 40 north.  Look at any star map:

 

M42:   Right ascension: 05h35m22.90s   Declination: -05°24'58.0"

 

M13:   Right ascension: 16h41m42.00s   Declination: +36°28'00.0"

 

They are far more nearly opposite in the sky than any "group", loose or not. And, save the exclamation points. Thanks.



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Posted 18 September 2019 - 07:54 PM

Orion is found around 5-6 hrs RA on the Equator.  Hercules is found around 17 hours R.A. 20- 40 north.  Look at any star map:

 

M42:   Right ascension: 05h35m22.90s   Declination: -05°24'58.0"

 

M13:   Right ascension: 16h41m42.00s   Declination: +36°28'00.0"

 

They are far more nearly opposite in the sky than any "group", loose or not. And, save the exclamation points. Thanks.

It depends on your definition of a group vs mine I am not about to get into those technicalities on these fun forums and as far as the ! marks they are just a bad habit of mine, its hard to break and thats the way life is, like it or not !! Clear Skies !



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Posted 18 September 2019 - 07:57 PM

Orion is found around 5-6 hrs RA on the Equator.  Hercules is found around 17 hours R.A. 20- 40 north.  Look at any star map:

 

M42:   Right ascension: 05h35m22.90s   Declination: -05°24'58.0"

 

M13:   Right ascension: 16h41m42.00s   Declination: +36°28'00.0"

 

They are far more nearly opposite in the sky than any "group", loose or not. And, save the exclamation points. Thanks.

But if it makes you happy I can call them a close opposite, if that puts your mind at ease ?



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Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:03 PM

Great unexpected "moment" you had. Those seem to be the best. Thanks for sharing your story.

Thanx ! It was one of those special moments in time while enjoying this great hobby. Clear Skies !



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Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:12 PM

Hercules is at the Zenith for me right now.  6 PM.  It would thus be approaching its Nadir,  far below Polaris, at 4 A.M.  Whatever you saw up there with AND, AUR, and ORI,  was certainly not Hercules.  I'm done. Not worth it.  Sorry for the... contradiction.


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Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:14 PM

Orion is found around 5-6 hrs RA on the Equator.  Hercules is found around 17 hours R.A. 20- 40 north.  Look at any star map:

 

M42:   Right ascension: 05h35m22.90s   Declination: -05°24'58.0"

 

M13:   Right ascension: 16h41m42.00s   Declination: +36°28'00.0"

 

They are far more nearly opposite in the sky than any "group", loose or not. And, save the exclamation points. Thanks.

I am curious as to your wisdom, when I can plant my scope in my backyard and not have to move it from that spot, yet see everything I mentioned by just shifting the scope around in a reasonably tight shape that resembles an oblong shape but not have to go to the opposite ends of the earth to see them all, why would you not call it a loose group rather than a close opposites ? What makes them any different ? I really am curious to know......  Clear Skies !



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Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:16 PM

Hercules is at the Zenith for me right now.  6 PM.  It would thus be approaching its nadir,  far below Polaris, at 4 A.M.  Whatever you saw up there with AND, AUR, and ORI,  was certainly not Hercules.  I'm done. Not worth it.

You could be right some one must have moved M13, lol !  Clear Skies !   


Edited by LDW47, 18 September 2019 - 08:17 PM.



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