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#51 stevew

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 01:40 PM

So lets get down to the real question..

What are they? Doublets, Triplets? Petzval?

I assume that as they are small aperture they are designed for photography..


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#52 Astrojensen

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 01:47 PM

So lets get down to the real question..

What are they? Doublets, Triplets? Petzval?

I assume that as they are small aperture they are designed for photography..

Sadly, that seems to be the case. Nothing new for us visual types...

 

 

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#53 Jond105

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 01:52 PM

So lets get down to the real question..

What are they? Doublets, Triplets? Petzval?

I assume that as they are small aperture they are designed for photography..

These are two prototypes brought to the conference. To say that there aren’t more apertures being worked on is just an assumption based off the picture. Without specs, or even finalized production runs, it’s a wait and see sort of thing. 


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#54 Richoff

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 01:57 PM

With dual finder brackets like that, I'm guessing these are specifically intended as astrographs. One is for the finder and the other is for the guidescope in a finder bracket.

Wouldn't mind seeing double thumb screws for the brackets tho.



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Posted 06 October 2019 - 04:24 PM

I'm 37 and I don't like the green color.  But that wouldn't stop me from buying one though if the optics are good enough.  I bought the EQ6-R, and it has some green trim on it.  Like they say, it doesn't matter in the dark.



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Posted 06 October 2019 - 04:51 PM

A thin piece of black duct tape would easily take care of that green stripe for those of you offended by it. Or, just don't buy it if the trim color matters more to you than the optics.

 

Problem solved. :)


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Posted 07 October 2019 - 12:13 AM

For all green color haters - stop reading this thread ‘cause (allegedly) you won’t buy anything made and offered by SW currently due to repulsive-for-you color.

Let rest of us enjoy the posts and this guess game. Btw, thanks to SW USA for stepping in to clear the obvious - it’s still a developing idea and way too early to make any definitive calls, comments or opinions. And yes, kudos to SW for considering to bring new instruments on the market.

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Posted 07 October 2019 - 12:42 AM

So lets get down to the real question..
What are they? Doublets, Triplets? Petzval?
I assume that as they are small aperture they are designed for photography..


Petzval would be cool. It'd be nice if there were less expensive alternatives to the Tele-Vue NP101/127.
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#59 Erik Bakker

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Posted 07 October 2019 - 02:48 AM

I love visual scopes, even though I am fully equipped as a photographer. So while I like versatility, I hope great visual scopes, along with photographic scopes, continue to be developed and produced.



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Posted 07 October 2019 - 07:23 AM

Petzval would be cool. It'd be nice if there were less expensive alternatives to the Tele-Vue NP101/127.

If they are going to keep adding to their scopes to make them the same or near the same as the other top line scopes do you really, really think they will remain a less expensive alternative ? I don’t think thats how it works, with anything, a couple of hundred $ maybe but ....... !



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Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:09 AM

I believe this series will be a doublet objective.
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Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:14 AM

You guys really have a green issuelol.gif It’s just green, it’s not that bad. I like it. 

 

I agree...and likin' the green!  But since many in the hobby are a 1000 years old, not hard to understand why they just want black and white lol.gif


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Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:57 AM

I agree...and likin' the green! But since many in the hobby are a 1000 years old, not hard to understand why they just want black and white lol.gif


I'm an OF and the green accents are no big deal. But before you go down the trail of assuming us old guys are inflexible stuck in the mud, what would your reaction be to a model that was all lime green? 🤣

Edited by Auburn80, 07 October 2019 - 09:58 AM.


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Posted 07 October 2019 - 10:23 AM

They don't look like Synta scopes, but rather the build looks very much like another well known Chinese manufacturer.


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Posted 07 October 2019 - 11:34 AM

I'm an OF and the green accents are no big deal. But before you go down the trail of assuming us old guys are inflexible stuck in the mud, what would your reaction be to a model that was all lime green?

 

All all tube bright neon color would be cool.  There is a CNer that does that to their long achromats and they are as cool looking as can be.  And if you are the type interested in attracting people at outreaches, then get that all-neon color scheme!


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Posted 07 October 2019 - 12:17 PM

Williams optics has put out some pretty gaudy (in a good way) scopes in the past.

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Posted 07 October 2019 - 04:53 PM

The trim colour doesn't bother me but I like white tubes and mounts since they're easier to spot in the dark, both for me and our dog racing around the yard. I've got luminous tape on my black observing chair to avoid accidents.


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Posted 07 October 2019 - 05:17 PM

I don’t care about the color, only what I see in the eyepiece, as long as it doesn’t glow in the dark.

 

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Posted 07 October 2019 - 08:24 PM

Black paint is really cheap.

Small bottle would take care of that.



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Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:54 PM

For all green color haters - stop reading this thread ‘cause (allegedly) you won’t buy anything made and offered by SW currently due to repulsive-for-you color.
 

I'm fine with the green, but the font they used..... OMG the horrors!


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Posted 08 October 2019 - 08:05 AM

Congratulations to SW. Now, of course it all depends on the price, but they seems to hit a sweet spot on the market. Also the choice of the sizes (62mm and 82mm) is spot-on IMHO.

 

For example, the Astrotech 60mm ED has FPL53, very nice mechanics and costs about 360$. Hope SW will stay below that price. The comparison with the AT60 also shows how much value SW is loosing in not declaring the glass. Given the same price and the same mechanics, people will buy the AT60 instead of the Evolux 62mm, as they know the glass in the former but not in the latter. If the glass is FPL55, FCD100 or something equivalent, there's really no reason not to state it, IMHO.


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Posted 08 October 2019 - 08:43 AM

I own a Skywatcher 150mm Evostar and Skywatcher Eq6-R mount. Without getting up and going to look, I cannot recall which parts of the scope and mount are green, white, or black. However, I do remember the ease of polar alignment and the nice views. 


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Posted 08 October 2019 - 02:26 PM

I think this shows how much Sky-Watcher May possibly be listening to its users. We love the scopes, and optics, but would love some things, like a retractable dew shield, a possible better focuser. It’s not much to ask I feel. 

They have been there already with retractable dewshields & better fkcusers for their doublets, with the Equinox line. 

 

These new scopes are to compete in form factor & hardware with TS, AT, APM etc. Will the 150ED get a makeover? 


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Posted 08 October 2019 - 02:33 PM

They have been there already with retractable dewshields & better fkcusers for their doublets, with the Equinox line. 

 

These new scopes are to compete in form factor & hardware with TS, AT, APM etc. Will the 150ED get a makeover? 

True, but then they went away with it. I just hope the 120mm gets the makeover. 



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Posted 08 October 2019 - 04:32 PM

I notice that many of the "green" haters here seem to have a certain amount of fine eyepieces that involve ...er green in their colour scheme...I fully expect to see these EPs up for sale at a bargain price very soon, I mean who wants green on their EPs? Cash waiting gents....


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