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#1 Kent10

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 01:33 AM

Amazing views, I am not sure the star test could be better.  Looked at many objects tonight and shared with a friend.  All wonderful.

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 01:50 AM

Kent,

 

I'm happy to be the first to congratulate you on your new arrival! I would expect nothing less than a great star test from your #001 and expect the same when my #009 arrives. Unlike with my 180, which has always been ready to go the second the cap comes off, Yuri states with the 200,"More attention should be taken to...air/weather conditions."

 

Any noticeable cooldown requirements with #001?

 

Also, out of curiosity which A-P Mount is that? Looks like an 1100 or 1200? And an ATS 8" or 10" portable pier? 

 

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 01:59 AM

Thanks very much Sam.  Exciting times for us.  I think the star test on my 200 is better than on my 180. 

 

I put the scope out at around 5:30 and shortly after that started observing Saturn.  It was really nice.  I could see some movement in the star test that looked like turbulence in the tube but it went away fairly quickly.  I changed from a prism diagonal to a mirror at some point and noticed some more swirling that must have been from the diagonal.  Later it was better but the seeing was not as good and I had some jaggy points on the star test both sides of focus, I think from the seeing.

 

AP 1100 mount and 8" ATS pier but double thick.  It wasn't perfectly solid tonight at high power but I am new to this and balanced it all very quickly so I could get out to view.  I will work on that tomorrow with the counterweights and tightening everything up to see if it makes a difference. 

 

Loads of fun!


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Posted 06 October 2019 - 02:04 AM

I need time to catch up to you guys. I'm still looking for a nice 130mm. Thinking an APM 140.

 

Wishing you both the best with your new scopes! waytogo.gif

 

 

Miguel   8-)

 

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 02:22 AM

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 02:46 AM

Congratulations, as noted on the fb page my friend here in the UK has the #001 of the first run from approximately 20 years ago. It is the best large aperture apo I have ever looked through, even high mag testing on Vega reveals no colour and a perfect textbook star image. Extraordinary instruments.

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 03:05 AM

Awesome! Congratulations on first light (I've been looking forward to hearing about it). I remember when a 80mm Tasco was a longer term target scope and a 4" Unitron was crazy out of this world. That an 8" is possible for amateurs is so amazing.

 

I see hockey pucks under the ATS feet. Are those Sorbothane? I did a lot of testing with my AP1100 and 8" ATS pier, specifically to optimize the pier. It had double mounted scopes on it, so it was a significant load with some level arm.

 

Here were my findings on the ATS feet:

 

ATS's stock rubber feet (recent years): best all around solution on grass and concrete 1-2 seconds, but small deviation

 

ATS bare legs on Sorbothane: faster stopping (<1 sec) but way bigger excursion to get there; I didn't like it

 

ATS stock rubber on Sorbothane: between the two in stopping (1-1.5 sec) but still big deviation; I would pick one of the first two instead

 

ATS flat metal on grass: never stopped moving between gusts (rang like a tuning fork); surprised me

 

George


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Posted 06 October 2019 - 03:11 AM

One more thing. Looks like your counterweight is at the end of the shaft. Better to get more wide weights and push them up against the mount. And maybe go for all six bolts to hold the mount to the pier (many people including me usually shortcut it with three).

 

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 03:57 AM

Hi Kent

Congratulation for this marvellous instrument . I am sure you will enjoy a lot of fantastic views trought this jewell of optics and mechanics, i am very curious about the difference in lens design between VT and non VT design .

Thank you for sharing yours impressions and pics

best regards 
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Posted 06 October 2019 - 04:55 AM

Congrats, Kent, on your new 200. I'm on vacation right now in Edinburgh, Scotland, otherwise I'd say more. Enjoy your new crown jewel.

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 05:15 AM

Gorgeous Kent, congratulations!



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Posted 06 October 2019 - 07:20 AM

Congrats Kent, what an absolute stunner! Your patience has been rewarded and I hope you have many years of enjoyment with that big monster.

 

 

 

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 08:45 AM

Congratulations Kent...Dream setup at the Pinnacle of Apo perfection!

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 09:10 AM

Absolutely beautiful!!  Congrats.  Definitely want to hear details on 1st light observations when you get time.  



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Posted 06 October 2019 - 10:30 AM

Congrats, Kent.

 

I am looking forward to TEC 180FL #001 v.s. TEC 200FL #001 shootout :)

 

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 10:46 AM

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 10:48 AM

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 10:57 AM

Thanks very much, everyone.  A dream scope for sure.  Here is a good morning picture.

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 10:58 AM

Better objective shots.

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 11:02 AM

I added all the weights I have for better balance.  Still learning.  I am not sure this helped to make it more solid, but it can't hurt.  It still had some settling time when looking at some trees.  I need to take the scope off and tighten everything.  The mount has been set up for months and only used now so some things may not be as tight as they need to be.

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 11:05 AM

These are the pucks I am using.  They were made for the ATS and have a slot for the rubber foot.  I bought them months and probably well over a year ago so I will have to look up where I got them.  I think they are discontinued.  I bought them thinking they would keep the pier from sinking into the ground.  I don't know if they help for stability.

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 11:05 AM

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 11:06 AM

Until I get a 360 Telegizmos this will keep the sun off so it doesn't heat up too much for tonight's viewing.

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 12:16 PM

Congratulations, as noted on the fb page my friend here in the UK has the #001 of the first run from approximately 20 years ago. It is the best large aperture apo I have ever looked through, even high mag testing on Vega reveals no colour and a perfect textbook star image. Extraordinary instruments.

I didn't look extremely carefully yet for color but it looked quite color-free on Vega, just a little with the 2" prism diagonal as expected and none or perhaps a very little outside and inside of focus only with the mirror diagonal.  But nothing obvious when in focus.  I'll keep testing because I enjoy star testing as part of my viewing.


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Posted 06 October 2019 - 12:25 PM

Awesome! Congratulations on first light (I've been looking forward to hearing about it). I remember when a 80mm Tasco was a longer term target scope and a 4" Unitron was crazy out of this world. That an 8" is possible for amateurs is so amazing.

 

I see hockey pucks under the ATS feet. Are those Sorbothane? I did a lot of testing with my AP1100 and 8" ATS pier, specifically to optimize the pier. It had double mounted scopes on it, so it was a significant load with some level arm.

 

Here were my findings on the ATS feet:

 

ATS's stock rubber feet (recent years): best all around solution on grass and concrete 1-2 seconds, but small deviation

 

ATS bare legs on Sorbothane: faster stopping (<1 sec) but way bigger excursion to get there; I didn't like it

 

ATS stock rubber on Sorbothane: between the two in stopping (1-1.5 sec) but still big deviation; I would pick one of the first two instead

 

ATS flat metal on grass: never stopped moving between gusts (rang like a tuning fork); surprised me

 

George

Thanks George.  I never thought I would own an 8" APO.  I didn't think I would own the 180mm either but dreams do come true.

 

I think these are the pucks I bought mainly so the pier legs wouldn't settle into the ground and leave the scope unbalanced.  They are molded out of urethane.   https://tripodpads.c...able-pier-pads/

 

Thanks for sharing your experience with your ATS.  It looks like I should try the pier without the pads.  Sometimes I wonder if I should have gotten the 10" pier but the 8" was recommended for the AP 1100 mount and so I went with that but got the double thick version.




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